Frank wrote on Dec 16^th, 2016 at 9:09pm:


Sorry, old boy, you still haven't said where you're from.

You're not trying to keep something from us, are you? That would be most mendacious of you, dear boy.

We'll clear all this up once and for all, shall we?

Where are you from?

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16^th, 2016 at 9:29pm:


Good point. Old boy, why are you offended by your fellow immigrants?

We thought you people all got along.

John Smith wrote on Dec 16^th, 2016 at 9:32pm:



Yeah, the Muslim go macca's like it's mecca.

http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/38beac60913751eaa914dc19c8721067width=1024


What is she trying to hide? This:
http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/1eef32bd78a79784647e0068a22dc8bbwidth=650

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16^th, 2016 at 8:24pm:



And, imo, Poms, Scots, Welsh, Dutch, Germans, or French all have a passing respect for our laws.

Those people, those 'ethnic' groups those cultural groups all have the social memory, of at least the past century, to understand the purpose, of having respect for the laws of a functioning society.

And it is that respect, which creates social stability, imo.

Its not perfect,           our laws are not perfect, but they [our system of laws], i would argue, are better than every system of laws that have held sway in almost every 3rd world nation for the last century.


PROPOSITION;
Those people, coming from some 3rd world poor country, who come to nations like Australia, come for the political stability, and for a share of the prosperity.

And, those people, coming from some 3rd world poor countries,         DID NOT CREATE OR CONTRIBUTE        to our political stability, or our prosperity.

But they are attracted to it,       to the peace, safety, and the prosperity.




And the political circumstances that permit and engender an environment of peace, safety, prosperity,            depends on those political circumstances engendering a fair and just system of laws.

Not a perfect system, but we require a system of laws that inherently aspires to justice.

And justice within any political system, or society of men, cannot succeed without widespread respect, by a society of men, for truth.



          who arrive on our shore from some 3rd world country,
....but in many ways, we [the children of those peoples who built 'Western culture'] have [also] lost respect, for the prerequisites which are needed for peace, safety, prosperity to flourish in a society of men.



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Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1454219198/4#4
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Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 16^th, 2016 at 7:23pm:


According to Brian, we do not have the right, nor even the ability, to criticise other nations and religions. Good luck getting him to care about the rest of the world. He is just here to apologise for it.

Frank wrote on Dec 16^th, 2016 at 9:09pm:


Really?

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The sectarian divide in Australia between the Catholics and the Protestants has largely disappeared.   Before (approximately) 1960, it was huge.  The Irish suffered from it, from the days of the First Fleet.  I recommend you read Thomas Kenneally's The Great Shame: And the Triumph of the Irish in the English-Speaking World . This divide in our society personally affected my father, who left the State Public Service to join Commonwealth Public Service because he was a Catholic.   

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They have never threatened bloody violence if their beliefs were not respected, they never refused to stand in court, they did not wage ideological war again Australia and Western civilisation.  Islam and its adherents do.
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Some Muslims do, not all do and that is the problem with your views, they are extremely bigoted.   

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The only person who is dishonest is yourself...   

Frank wrote on Dec 16^th, 2016 at 9:09pm:


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Brian Ross wrote on Dec 16^th, 2016 at 10:20pm:



Brian Ross,

LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE......

Their [moslems/ISLAM's] system of laws       is predicated      upon utter hatred and enmity for anyone/EVERYONE, who rejects ISLAM.



Brian Ross,

Denying that fact [that mainstream ISLAM sanctions and encourages utter hatred of all non-moslems],         won't make it untrue.




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"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4


"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29


"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216


"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123


"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."
Koran 9.111







IN THE HADITH TOO,      MOHAMMED SAID.....

"Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #001.002.026


"A man came to the Prophet and asked, "A man fights for war booty; another fights for fame and a third fights for showing off; which of them fights in Allah's Cause?" The Prophet said, "He who fights that Allah's Word (i.e. Islam) should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.065
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.080i

freediver wrote on Dec 16^th, 2016 at 7:18pm:


Good question FD - should I post his quote for about the 20th time? Do you think saying something is "racist" instead of say "bigoted hate speech against a specific ethno-religious group" is being unfair on moses? Would you agree that the latter description is an accurate reflection of "what moses actually said"? I'm very happy to put that instead of 'racist'.

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Funnily enough I called it 'racism' because its racism. FD is this your way of saying you never feel the need to speak out against such racism bigoted hate speech against a specific ethno-religious group - and if its brought to your attention you'll dedicate all your time and resources to spinelessly apologise for it?