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Re: What is racism?
Reply #645 - Jan 30^th, 2017 at 10:30am

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 30^th, 2017 at 12:15am:

Frank wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 11:20pm:

Tell us one positive improvement that Islam brings to the West, Brian.

One.

It pisses you off, Soren. It prevents you from becoming complacent, from sitting in your armchair thinking that the whole world thinks the way you do. That is not a good thing. That is a great thing.

So you are happy to have all the Islamic terrorists in the West just so I get pissed off by them??? Really?
You are happy for Muslims to drive trucks into crowds, stab people, blow up trains in the name of Islam JUST so I get pissed off??? And to you that's better than good, it's great??

You are a dreadful little gobshite, Brian. Just awful.

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Reply #646 - Jan 30^th, 2017 at 11:21am

Adamant wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 6:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 3:41pm:

kemal wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 3:36pm:

Tut Tut

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"To argue with a person who has renounced reason is like administering medicine to the dead."

How do you still get your meds. Do they now give them to oxygen thieves. Please Explain.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49241 At my desk.	Re: What is racism? Reply #647 - Jan 30^th, 2017 at 11:24am Brian hopes that tolerance of being different might validate his efforts at being wrong and spineless every single time. He is very keen an alternative facts, alternative morality etc.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: What is racism? Reply #648 - Jan 30^th, 2017 at 11:27am Alternative reality....
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Re: What is racism?
Reply #649 - Jan 30^th, 2017 at 1:13pm

freediver wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:17pm:

You can create low intelligence humans in a single generation of incest Gandalf. Can you tell the difference between that and race?

The entire muslim population - all 1.5 billion of them? Are you sure about that FD?

Can you cite moses referring to a single generation of incest causing the low intelligence in 100% of the muslim population, or is this just yet another case of you putting words into his mouth?

Do you think moses had a single generation in mind when he referred to "low intelligence" specifically in the context of 1400 years of inbreeding?

Funny, it seems moses has a better understanding of Mendelian genetics than you do.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: What is racism?
Reply #650 - Jan 30^th, 2017 at 7:30pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 30^th, 2017 at 1:13pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:17pm:

You can create low intelligence humans in a single generation of incest Gandalf. Can you tell the difference between that and race?

The entire muslim population - all 1.5 billion of them? Are you sure about that FD?

Can you cite moses referring to a single generation of incest causing the low intelligence in 100% of the muslim population, or is this just yet another case of you putting words into his mouth?

Do you think moses had a single generation in mind when he referred to "low intelligence" specifically in the context of 1400 years of inbreeding?

Funny, it seems moses has a better understanding of Mendelian genetics than you do.

Moses did not say it Gandalf. I did. You are the only one putting words (like sub species) into Moses' mouth.

Why are you now trying to claim that Moses was referring to a conventional concept of race? Do you now think that that is necessary to make a charge of racism stick to him?

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Re: What is racism?
Reply #651 - Jan 31^st, 2017 at 5:23am

freediver wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 10:17pm:

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FD, do you still insist that the quote in my sig is not racist?

Yes Gandalf. Inbred is not a race, remember? Muslims could inbreed themselves in a single generation, and outbreed themselves in the next, if the chose to do so. Of course, if you think Moses meant something other than what he said, you could always ask him, but for some reason you are remarkably reluctant to do so. All that effort to find a good quote of Moses being racist, but you still cannot bring yourself to ask.

Can you tell the difference between shared ancestry and shared ideological support for incest?

Are you still trying to redefine racism, or are your efforts to find genuine racism is Moses' posts an acknowledgement that you were wrong to do so and that your efforts merely cheapened the experience of the genuine victims of racism?

Do you agree with Moses, FD?

That's a question. Again.

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Reply #652 - Jan 31^st, 2017 at 5:31am

Frank wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 11:20pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 11:05pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 9:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 9:17pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 8:14pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 2:04pm:

So silly, Frank. Islam is here. It isn't going away. We, in the West must learn to manage our responses to the legitimate concerns of Muslims around the world and reject the illegitimate ones. Outright rejection will fail dismally. Isolating the world's main source of energy will not work, either. Muslims are humans, just like we all are (although, in your case I sometimes have doubts with your attitudes). Should be seeking ways to unite us, rather than allow petty squabbles and Xenophobic hatreds, divide us. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

We in the West must not, under any circumstances, accommodate any Muslim concerns in our own countries. If Muslims have concerns about what they are doing to each other in their own Muslim countries they should discuss with each other.

We in the West must not in any way accommodate Muslims in the West. Islam is an entirely negative force in the West and must not be accommodated.

A practicing Muslim in the West is demonstrating his hostility and opposition to Western ideas, culture, custom. Must not be accommodate in any way. Islam bring nothing worth accommodating or adopting.

Practice Islam privately as spiritual exercises if you must but no public accommodation or validation. Islam is a backward step - backward triple jump - on every count. It is not a positive in the West on any reckoning. It should be treated as the negative, malign, atavistic intruder it is.

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Spoken like a true bigot there, Soren. When are you going to propose deporting Muslims? Have they cancelled your Christmas again? Tsk, tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Tell us one positive improvement that Islam brings to the West, Brian.

One.

It pisses you off, Soren.

Tell us one positive improvement that Islam brings to the West, Brian.

One.

It creates retarded, inbred subhumans who are capable of being nice.

You?

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Re: What is racism?
Reply #653 - Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:14am

freediver wrote on Jan 30^th, 2017 at 7:30pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 30^th, 2017 at 1:13pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:17pm:

You can create low intelligence humans in a single generation of incest Gandalf. Can you tell the difference between that and race?

The entire muslim population - all 1.5 billion of them? Are you sure about that FD?

Can you cite moses referring to a single generation of incest causing the low intelligence in 100% of the muslim population, or is this just yet another case of you putting words into his mouth?

Do you think moses had a single generation in mind when he referred to "low intelligence" specifically in the context of 1400 years of inbreeding?

Funny, it seems moses has a better understanding of Mendelian genetics than you do.

Moses did not say it Gandalf. I did.

Correct - it is therefore entirely irrelevant in our little discussion about whether moses was being racist.

Just out of interest, do you often apologise for someone's racism by bringing up crap that had nothing to do with what that person actually said?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49241 At my desk.	Re: What is racism? Reply #654 - Jan 31^st, 2017 at 12:59pm If there is a plausible non-racist interpretation of what Moses said, then it is relevant. Remember, inbred is not a race Gandalf. Nor is it a subspecies. Have you abandoned the discussion about your attempts to redefine racism? Is that your way of conceding?
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Re: What is racism?
Reply #655 - Jan 31^st, 2017 at 1:10pm

freediver wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 12:59pm:

Remember, inbred is not a race Gandalf. Nor is it a subspecies.

no, but it is a "subgroup of low intelligence beings" - which I know that subtle difference is so important to you, and how it makes all the difference between being racist and non-racist.

freediver wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 12:59pm:

Have you abandoned the discussion about your attempts to redefine racism? Is that your way of conceding?

concede what FD? If you need further clarification on anything, ask away. My "attempts to redefine racism" is your invention, by the way - just so we're clear. I don't think there would be many people who would disagree on my definition of racism - which was "defined" long before I was around.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: What is racism?
Reply #656 - Jan 31^st, 2017 at 1:14pm

freediver wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 12:59pm:

If there is a plausible non-racist interpretation of what Moses said

So just to be clear - 100% of muslims being of low intelligence due to inbreeding - could plausibly be explained by a single generation of inbreeding?

This is despite the fact that moses specifically said muslim's low intelligence was a result of 1400 years of inbreeding - and *NOT* a single generation.

Do you really want to keep running with this FD?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: What is racism? Reply #657 - Jan 31^st, 2017 at 1:24pm Racism is being delighted that the Canada mosque killings were done by a white boy.
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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: What is racism? Reply #658 - Jan 31^st, 2017 at 1:26pm 'Muslims' isn't a race, hence : No.
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Re: What is racism?
Reply #659 - Jan 31^st, 2017 at 2:35pm

freediver wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 12:59pm:

If there is a plausible non-racist interpretation of what Moses said, then it is relevant. Remember, inbred is not a race Gandalf. Nor is it a subspecies.

1. Why are you looking for a plausible interpretation of what Moses said?

2. Do you agree with what Moses said?

3. Why are you playing evasive games over G's terms to describe race?

3. Cat got your tongue?

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Question: Is the statement is my signature racist?
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