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Reply #690 - Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:10pm

freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:03pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 6:00pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 8:28am:

What ethno-cultural group is Moses referring to when he talks about 100% of Muslims?

Muslims.

The giveaway was when he started attributing 'ethno-cultural' attributes to all of them like inbreeding and squatting to pee.

So Islam is a race as far as your definition of racism goes?

Anyone posted a definition of racism here?

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: What is racism? Reply #692 - Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:27pm Aussie wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:10pm: Anyone posted a definition of racism here? Yep. Racism is never having to say you're sorry.
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Aussie Gold Member Online OzPolitic Posts: 38808 Gender:	Re: What is racism? Reply #693 - Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:28pm Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:27pm: Aussie wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:10pm: Anyone posted a definition of racism here? Yep. Racism is never having to say you're sorry. About what?
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Reply #694 - Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:31pm

freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:18pm:

Does he suggest they share religious views?

obviously.

It seems like you are sizing up for a false dichotomy. Do you think its unheard of for ethnicities and/or cultures to share the same religious views? Does an ethnicity or culture with shared religious views suddenly stop being an ethnicity or culture?

freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:18pm:

Is Islam is a race as far as your definition of racism goes?

Rather than just keep repeating it ad infinitum, try and compose a question that actually makes sense, and actually has something to do with what I've been explaining.

To get you started, try and understand that an ideology or religion can't be a group of people - usually a group of people is some kind of group of people.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: What is racism? Reply #696 - Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:39pm Aussie wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:28pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:27pm: Aussie wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:10pm: Anyone posted a definition of racism here? Yep. Racism is never having to say you're sorry. About what? Invasion Day.
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Re: What is racism?
Reply #697 - Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:49pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:31pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:18pm:

Does he suggest they share religious views?

obviously.

It seems like you are sizing up for a false dichotomy. Do you think its unheard of for ethnicities and/or cultures to share the same religious views? Does an ethnicity or culture with shared religious views suddenly stop being an ethnicity or culture?

freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:18pm:

Is Islam is a race as far as your definition of racism goes?

Rather than just keep repeating it ad infinitum, try and compose a question that actually makes sense, and actually has something to do with what I've been explaining.

To get you started, try and understand that an ideology or religion can't be a group of people - usually a group of people is some kind of group of people.

You accuse Moses of turning criticism of Islam into a racist thing. But the only racial aspect of it that you can identify is Islam. That is the only 'ethno-cultural' aspect to Moses' cricism.

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Reply #698 - Feb 4^th, 2017 at 8:44pm

freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:49pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:31pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:18pm:

Does he suggest they share religious views?

obviously.

It seems like you are sizing up for a false dichotomy. Do you think its unheard of for ethnicities and/or cultures to share the same religious views? Does an ethnicity or culture with shared religious views suddenly stop being an ethnicity or culture?

freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:18pm:

Is Islam is a race as far as your definition of racism goes?

Rather than just keep repeating it ad infinitum, try and compose a question that actually makes sense, and actually has something to do with what I've been explaining.

To get you started, try and understand that an ideology or religion can't be a group of people - usually a group of people is some kind of group of people.

You accuse Moses of turning criticism of Islam into a racist thing. But the only racial aspect of it that you can identify is Islam. That is the only 'ethno-cultural' aspect to Moses' cricism.

How is describing Muslims as an inbred, retarded subspecies who squat down to piss and play with their dicks afterwards a criticism of Islam, FD?

I'm curious. I'm keen to know what you think.

Will you say?

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Reply #699 - Feb 4^th, 2017 at 8:58pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:49pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:31pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:18pm:

Does he suggest they share religious views?

obviously.

It seems like you are sizing up for a false dichotomy. Do you think its unheard of for ethnicities and/or cultures to share the same religious views? Does an ethnicity or culture with shared religious views suddenly stop being an ethnicity or culture?

freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:18pm:

Is Islam is a race as far as your definition of racism goes?

Rather than just keep repeating it ad infinitum, try and compose a question that actually makes sense, and actually has something to do with what I've been explaining.

To get you started, try and understand that an ideology or religion can't be a group of people - usually a group of people is some kind of group of people.

You accuse Moses of turning criticism of Islam into a racist thing. But the only racial aspect of it that you can identify is Islam. That is the only 'ethno-cultural' aspect to Moses' cricism.

How is describing Muslims as an inbred, retarded subspecies who squat down to piss and play with their dicks afterwards a criticism of Islam, FD?

I'm curious. I'm keen to know what you think.

Will you say?

Do they do these things because Islam tells them to?

Well, yes, they do.

Racist? No. Islam tells them to be ideological in their daily lives. Irish converts will be just as stupid as the 20th generation Arab Muslims.

It's the stupid ideology, not race. You are a mong if you believe in Islam, no matter where you come from.i

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Re: What is racism?
Reply #700 - Feb 5^th, 2017 at 2:24am

Frank wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 8:58pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:49pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:31pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:18pm:

Does he suggest they share religious views?

obviously.

It seems like you are sizing up for a false dichotomy. Do you think its unheard of for ethnicities and/or cultures to share the same religious views? Does an ethnicity or culture with shared religious views suddenly stop being an ethnicity or culture?

freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:18pm:

Is Islam is a race as far as your definition of racism goes?

Rather than just keep repeating it ad infinitum, try and compose a question that actually makes sense, and actually has something to do with what I've been explaining.

To get you started, try and understand that an ideology or religion can't be a group of people - usually a group of people is some kind of group of people.

You accuse Moses of turning criticism of Islam into a racist thing. But the only racial aspect of it that you can identify is Islam. That is the only 'ethno-cultural' aspect to Moses' cricism.

How is describing Muslims as an inbred, retarded subspecies who squat down to piss and play with their dicks afterwards a criticism of Islam, FD?

I'm curious. I'm keen to know what you think.

Will you say?

Do they do these things because Islam tells them to?

Well, yes, they do.

Racist? No. Islam tells them to be ideological in their daily lives. Irish converts will be just as stupid as the 20th generation Arab Muslims.

It's the stupid ideology, not race. You are a mong if you believe in Islam, no matter where you come from.

Oh, we've asked Moses to substantiate his claims that Islam tells you to do this or that. Moses' response is to post a completely unrelated text and say there.

When you point this out to Moses, he throws a hissy fit and plays that song of his, it doesn't mean what it says.

But do you know? If I was a cunning Christian or Lutheran immersing myself in textual exegis, I'd start with the Bible. According to Moses, do unto others, love thy neighbour and love thine enemy doesn't mean what it says either.

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Re: What is racism?
Reply #701 - Feb 5^th, 2017 at 5:32am

freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:49pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:31pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:18pm:

Does he suggest they share religious views?

obviously.

It seems like you are sizing up for a false dichotomy. Do you think its unheard of for ethnicities and/or cultures to share the same religious views? Does an ethnicity or culture with shared religious views suddenly stop being an ethnicity or culture?

freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:18pm:

Is Islam is a race as far as your definition of racism goes?

Rather than just keep repeating it ad infinitum, try and compose a question that actually makes sense, and actually has something to do with what I've been explaining.

To get you started, try and understand that an ideology or religion can't be a group of people - usually a group of people is some kind of group of people.

You accuse Moses of turning criticism of Islam into a racist thing. But the only racial aspect of it that you can identify is Islam. That is the only 'ethno-cultural' aspect to Moses' cricism.

Absolute rubbish.

I accuse moses of turning criticism of muslims into a racist thing. Huge difference. Because he depicts them as inferior using a broad-brush of racial markers (100% are inbred, low intelligence, psychopathic killers etc).

Criticism of Islam itself is not racist, and is perfectly acceptable - as I have explained many times.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #702 - Feb 5^th, 2017 at 5:37am

Karnal wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:49pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:31pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:18pm:

Does he suggest they share religious views?

obviously.

It seems like you are sizing up for a false dichotomy. Do you think its unheard of for ethnicities and/or cultures to share the same religious views? Does an ethnicity or culture with shared religious views suddenly stop being an ethnicity or culture?

freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:18pm:

Is Islam is a race as far as your definition of racism goes?

Rather than just keep repeating it ad infinitum, try and compose a question that actually makes sense, and actually has something to do with what I've been explaining.

To get you started, try and understand that an ideology or religion can't be a group of people - usually a group of people is some kind of group of people.

You accuse Moses of turning criticism of Islam into a racist thing. But the only racial aspect of it that you can identify is Islam. That is the only 'ethno-cultural' aspect to Moses' cricism.

How is describing Muslims as an inbred, retarded subspecies who squat down to piss and play with their dicks afterwards a criticism of Islam, FD?

Its not. FD has suddenly turned the conversation from racist descriptions of muslims into criticism of Islam, so he can resort to his favourite "Islam isn't a race" meme. Just one problem though - no one else is talking about criticism of Islam.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: What is racism? Reply #703 - Feb 5^th, 2017 at 6:18am Racism is NOT refusing a smelly, unwashed aborigine a motel room because he's black.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: What is racism? Reply #704 - Feb 5^th, 2017 at 8:43am polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:07pm: Moses ascribes ethno-cultural attributes to muslims in order to vilify them in a racist manner. Culture does not equal race... one can be dismissive of a culture or love it and not be a racist.
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