polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 6
th, 2017 at 8:58am:
Frank wrote on Feb 5
th, 2017 at 9:14pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 5
th, 2017 at 5:49pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 5
th, 2017 at 8:51am:
What is a "racial marker" Gandalf? Is it something a Muslim uses to turn a non-racist statement into a racist one?
Tell me FD, do you reckon muslims are the only people who would consider the statement in my signature racist? And do you think anyone who considers it racist is necessarily involved in some sinister conspiracy to deflect attention away from criticism of Islam?
freediver wrote on Feb 5
th, 2017 at 8:51am:
If intelligence is a marker, does that mean it is racist to say that doctors are intelligent?
doctors are not an ethno-cultural group, as I've mentioned before. They are a profession.
The Comparison of Mean IQ in Muslim and Non-Muslim CountriesDonald I. TemplerAbstract
The present research found that the Muslim country mean IQ of 81 is half a standard deviation below the mean IQ of non-Muslim nations and is not related to strength of Muslim culture as defined by the percentage of Muslims in the country. The mean IQ of 84 in Arab countries is not associated with per capita income and is incompatible with the intellectual achievements of the golden age of the Muslim Empire. Possible explanations for this decline include hybridization with sub-Saharan Africans, dysgenic decrease in the more educated Muslims employing birth control as suggested by Meisenberg,
the Muslim religion not fostering critical thinking, and the intellectual contributions being both exaggerated and made by non-Muslims.
Ahem..... Islam tends to make you thick, in other words.
You are quoting a well-known racist who believes negroes are intellectually deficient because of their genes. If you read the whole article, you'll see that of these "possible explanations" he actually argues against the one you highlighted - noting that "the strength of muslim culture does not seem very relevant to the IQ differences" and concluding that "It is here suggested that genetic factors are more important than economic/religious/cultural variables" - in explaining the IQ differences in arabs and muslims.
No, for old fashioned racists like Templer, it comes down to genetics, and his explanation is a far less nuanced one - simply that muslims became dumber once they started interbreeding with the inferior negroes.
So no, Islam doesn't tend to make you thick - according to Templar, interbreeding with inferior negroids makes you thick.
Prof Steve Jones, one of Britain’s most eminent scientists, has warned that the level of inbreeding among the nation’s Muslims is endangering the health of future generations.
By Jonathan Wynne-Jones Religious Affairs Correspondent8:15AM BST 29 May 2011
The geneticist said that it was common in the Islamic world for men to marry their nieces and cousins.
He said that Bradford has a particular problem and warned that it could affect the health of children born into these marriages.
Prof Jones, who lectures at University College London, is likely to find himself at the centre of controversy in the wake of the comments.
Similar remarks made by Phil Woolas, a Labour environment minister, in 2008 resulted in calls for him to be sacked from the government.
Prof Jones, who writes for the Telegraph’s science pages, told an audience at the Hay Festival: “There may be some evidence that cousins marrying one another can be harmful.
“It is common in the Islamic world to marry your brother’s daughter, which is actually closer than marrying your cousin.
“We should be concerned about that as there can be a lot of hidden genetic damage. Children are much more likely to get two copies of a damaged gene.”
He added: “Bradford is very inbred. There is a huge amount of cousins marrying each other there.” Research in Bradford has found that babies born to Pakistani women are twice as likely to die in their first year as babies born to white mothers, with genetic problems linked to inbreeding identified as a “significant” cause.
Studies have found that within the city, more than 70 per cent of marriages are between relations, with more than half involving first cousins.
Separate studies have found that while British Pakistanis make up three per cent of all births, they account for one in three British children born with genetic illnesses. Prof Jones also said that incest was more common than is often realised in every part of society, adding that it had been particular prevalent among royalty and suggested it is still continuing.
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