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Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas
Reply #90 - Dec 23^rd, 2016 at 10:38am

John Smith wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 2:32pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 8:23am:

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2016 at 10:05pm:

Well, if they can fly planes into our buildings and drive trucks into our civilians we can bomb them back to hell.

except that we were bombing them long before any planes flew into any buildings.

Really?

When?

pretty much the last 50 yrs.

In Osama Bin Laden's November 2002 "Letter to America",[5][6] he explicitly stated that al-Qaeda's motives for their attacks include: Western support for attacking Muslims in Somalia, supporting Russian atrocities against Muslims in Chechnya, supporting the Indian oppression against Muslims in Kashmir, the Jewish aggression against Muslims in Lebanon, the presence of US troops in Saudi Arabia,[6][7][8] US support of Israel,[9][10] and sanctions against Iraq.[1

Supporting the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan against Russians, supporting the Bosnian Muslims against the Serbians. Liberating Kuwait from Iraqi invasion (which is why Western troops were in Saudi), etc, etc.

The Muslim are always sooks about perceived slights. Any excuse will do for global jihad.

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Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas
Reply #91 - Dec 23^rd, 2016 at 11:17am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 10:36pm:

Unforgiven wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 10:31pm:

It wasn't a mistake. They meant to kill him. It was criminal negligence.

The police were in a state of hysteria -

they thought he had a bomb on him that he could trigger with a button.

It was a tragic mistake.

Seven bullets in the head is not a mistake. Its deliberate.

So, you contend that Brazilian electricians in London all carry bombs?

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Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas
Reply #92 - Dec 23^rd, 2016 at 11:23am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 10:36pm:

Unforgiven wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 10:31pm:

It wasn't a mistake. They meant to kill him. It was criminal negligence.

The police were in a state of hysteria -

they thought he had a bomb on him that he could trigger with a button.

It was a tragic mistake.

The cops lied. They are just incompetent plods.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1496382/Shot-Brazilian-did-not-jump-barri...

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The Brazilian electrician shot dead by police on the London Underground last month was being restrained when he was killed by officers from Scotland Yard's firearms unit, according to documents leaked last night.
Jean Charles de Menezes, 27, was shot seven times in the head by two plainclothes policemen who had followed him on to the train at Stockwell station in the mistaken belief that he was a potential suicide bomber.

Documents and photographs leaked to ITV News also confirmed that Mr de Menezes did not run from the police, as had been reported, had used his Tube pass to enter the station, rather than vault the barrier, and had taken a seat on the train before being grabbed by an officer.

He was wearing a light denim jacket and not as previously reported a padded coat which could have concealed explosives.

The documents, which contain witness statements made to the Independent Police Complaints Commission, also suggest that the intelligence operation may have been botched because an officer watching a flat believed to be the hideout of one of the suspects in the abortive July 21 attack was "relieving himself".

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137053 Gender:	Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas Reply #93 - Dec 23^rd, 2016 at 11:54am I see this thread is full of the usual apologists - Hammer, Yadda, Baron, Fireball, Sprint, Bogie, et al. - making excuses for the murderer. I unconditionally and resolutely condemn the actions of this murderer, while these apologists continue to shift the blame. Typical.
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Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas
Reply #94 - Dec 23^rd, 2016 at 12:20pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2016 at 11:54am:

I see this thread is full of the usual apologists - Hammer, Yadda, Baron, Fireball, Sprint, Bogie, et al. - making excuses for the murderer.

I unconditionally and resolutely condemn the actions of this murderer, while these apologists continue to shift the blame.

Typical.

Thought there was a nasty smell.........haemorrhoid they have established this piece of sh!t, the jihadi muslim you are protecting, is linked to ISIS.

The only 'apologist' here is you......you prick!

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Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas
Reply #95 - Dec 23^rd, 2016 at 12:26pm

Fuzzball wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2016 at 12:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2016 at 11:54am:

I see this thread is full of the usual apologists - Hammer, Yadda, Baron, Fireball, Sprint, Bogie, et al. - making excuses for the murderer.

I unconditionally and resolutely condemn the actions of this murderer, while these apologists continue to shift the blame.

Typical.

Thought there was a nasty smell.........haemorrhoid they have established this piece of sh!t, the jihadi muslim you are protecting, is linked to ISIS.

Apologist.

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Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas
Reply #96 - Dec 23^rd, 2016 at 12:30pm

Unforgiven wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2016 at 11:23am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 10:36pm:

Unforgiven wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 10:31pm:

It wasn't a mistake. They meant to kill him. It was criminal negligence.

The police were in a state of hysteria -

they thought he had a bomb on him that he could trigger with a button.

It was a tragic mistake.

The cops lied. They are just incompetent plods.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1496382/Shot-Brazilian-did-not-jump-barri...

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The Brazilian electrician shot dead by police on the London Underground last month was being restrained when he was killed by officers from Scotland Yard's firearms unit, according to documents leaked last night.
Jean Charles de Menezes, 27, was shot seven times in the head by two plainclothes policemen who had followed him on to the train at Stockwell station in the mistaken belief that he was a potential suicide bomber.

Documents and photographs leaked to ITV News also confirmed that Mr de Menezes did not run from the police, as had been reported, had used his Tube pass to enter the station, rather than vault the barrier, and had taken a seat on the train before being grabbed by an officer.

He was wearing a light denim jacket and not as previously reported a padded coat which could have concealed explosives.

The documents, which contain witness statements made to the Independent Police Complaints Commission, also suggest that the intelligence operation may have been botched because an officer watching a flat believed to be the hideout of one of the suspects in the abortive July 21 attack was "relieving himself".

The police were in a state of hysteria -

they thought he had a bomb on him that he could trigger with a button.

It was a tragic mistake.

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45757 Gender:	Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas Reply #97 - Dec 23^rd, 2016 at 12:55pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2016 at 11:54am: I unconditionally and resolutely condemn the actions of this murderer, while these apologists continue to shift the blame. Typical. How is the identification of motives blame shifting? Can you explain?
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Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas
Reply #98 - Dec 23^rd, 2016 at 12:57pm

Frank wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2016 at 12:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2016 at 11:54am:

I unconditionally and resolutely condemn the actions of this murderer, while these apologists continue to shift the blame.

Typical.

How is the identification of motives blame shifting? Can you explain?

Apologist.

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Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas
Reply #99 - Dec 23^rd, 2016 at 9:13pm

Even the liberal press is starting to ask real questions.

Der Spiegel:

Even if the picture isn't complete here yet, what this case is hinting at could be far graver than even the bad series of failures connected with the investigation into Jaber Albakr, a Syrian with refugee status who had planned a bombing attack on a Berlin Airport and then killed himself in October during pre-trial detention in a Dresden jail. The overall image would be devastating, underscoring as it would the helplessness of German authorities in how they handle the problem of dangerous Islamists and the inability of the immigration authorities to determine the kind of people they are dealing with and keep track of their whereabouts.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104098 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas Reply #100 - Dec 23^rd, 2016 at 9:22pm At least they killed the Berlin terrorist in Italy.
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