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Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas
Reply #60 - Dec 21^st, 2016 at 10:05pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 21^st, 2016 at 6:36pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2016 at 10:00am:

Unforgiven wrote on Dec 20^th, 2016 at 8:49pm:

The chaos and conflict in the Middle East and the consequent refugee stream to Europe, and terrorism in Europe has been caused by USA bombing of Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya and USA support of terrorists in Syria. Not to mention USA support and armaments for the bombing of Yemen.

There wouldn't be a problem if USA had not meddled in the affairs of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and Yemen.

You mean the US should not have responded to 9/11, should have also left Saddam in power, not respond to his earlier invasion of Kuwait, etc, etc. Just let Muslims do whatever they feel like otherwise they will unleash chaos?

9/11 would never have happened if we'd stayed out of the M.E. in the first place

Well, if they can fly planes into our buildings and drive trucks into our civilians we can bomb them back to hell.

If anything, the response by the US and West was way too timid. These fanatics are not like us, they understand nothing but force. They exercise force and they will be called to heel by nothing but force.

I have no sympathy for Afghans, Iranians, Iraqis, Syrians, Yemenis. They are battling each other, as they have done for centuries, but this time we get involved. We can't seal them off - if only we could - so we are inevitably dragged into their mindless tribal feuds.

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Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas
Reply #61 - Dec 21^st, 2016 at 10:09pm

Berlin attack:

Police hunt Tunisian suspect after finding ID papers in truck

By Frederik Pleitgen, James Griffiths and Angela Dewan, CNN

Updated 1125 GMT (1925 HKT) December 21, 2016

Berlin (CNN)Police are searching for a Tunisian man in his early 20s in connection with the Berlin Christmas market attack, a German security official told CNN Wednesday.
The suspect's identity papers were found inside the cabin of the truck used in the attack, which left 12 people dead and 48 injured, the official said.

Authorities on Tuesday released another man who was arrested shortly after the truck smashed into the market, saying there was no evidence to connect him to the attack.
Police have appealed to the public for any digital videos and photos they have of the incident or possible suspects. They tweeted Tuesday that they were investigating 508 leads.
Latest developments

Police are searching for a Tunisian man in his early 20s, security official says
German President Joachim Gauck visits the injured at a Berlin hospital
Police searching for suspect who deliberately drove truck into crowd
Mourners pack a nearby church for memorial to victims
Officials say several people could have been involved in the attack.

Attacker on the loose
ISIS claimed it had inspired the attack. The terror group's affiliated Amaq news agency described the perpetrator as a "soldier of the Islamic State," who had acted in response to calls for attacks in the West.
German police say they are treating the attack as terrorism, but there is no evidence of a direct link with ISIS.
On Tuesday evening, police released an asylum-seeker believed to be from Pakistan who had been detained in the immediate aftermath of the attack. According to German media, witnesses had said he had been driving the truck.
But Peter Frank, general prosecutor at Germany's Federal Court of Justice, said that forensic tests offered no link between the man and the truck's cabin.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/21/europe/berlin-christmas-market-truck/index.htm...

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Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas
Reply #62 - Dec 21^st, 2016 at 10:41pm

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2016 at 10:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 21^st, 2016 at 6:36pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2016 at 10:00am:

Unforgiven wrote on Dec 20^th, 2016 at 8:49pm:

The chaos and conflict in the Middle East and the consequent refugee stream to Europe, and terrorism in Europe has been caused by USA bombing of Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya and USA support of terrorists in Syria. Not to mention USA support and armaments for the bombing of Yemen.

There wouldn't be a problem if USA had not meddled in the affairs of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and Yemen.

You mean the US should not have responded to 9/11, should have also left Saddam in power, not respond to his earlier invasion of Kuwait, etc, etc. Just let Muslims do whatever they feel like otherwise they will unleash chaos?

9/11 would never have happened if we'd stayed out of the M.E. in the first place

Well, if they can fly planes into our buildings and drive trucks into our civilians we can bomb them back to hell.

If anything, the response by the US and West was way too timid.

These fanatics are not like us, they understand nothing but force.

They exercise force and they will be called to heel by nothing but force.

I have no sympathy for Afghans, Iranians, Iraqis, Syrians, Yemenis. They are battling each other, as they have done for centuries, but this time we get involved. We can't seal them off - if only we could - so we are inevitably dragged into their mindless tribal feuds.

Frank,

Exactly so, imo.

ISLAM teaches moslem men to have the character and inclination, of a base ruthless thug.

Moslems employ treachery, lying, deceit, intimidation, and utter ruthlessness, against those they deem to be their enemy.

Moslems pretend to have honour and virtue,    but the reality is, that they conceal their wrongdoing, and are a shameless, deceitful, lying people.    [they are a people, who will never accede to any form of 'repentance']

A person like Saddam Hussein was, essentially a perfect foil, against the moslem psyche, imo.

Saddam Hussein [himself an utterly ruthless thug] knew 'what was required' to 'engender respect' from those moslems he ruled over.    !!!!

p.s.
And the same 'qualities' applied to Muammar Gaddafi, in Libya.

Another utterly ruthless thug, who knew 'what was required' to 'engender respect' from those moslems he ruled over.    !!!!

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Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas
Reply #63 - Dec 21^st, 2016 at 11:19pm

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2016 at 10:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 21^st, 2016 at 6:36pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2016 at 10:00am:

Unforgiven wrote on Dec 20^th, 2016 at 8:49pm:

The chaos and conflict in the Middle East and the consequent refugee stream to Europe, and terrorism in Europe has been caused by USA bombing of Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya and USA support of terrorists in Syria. Not to mention USA support and armaments for the bombing of Yemen.

There wouldn't be a problem if USA had not meddled in the affairs of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and Yemen.

You mean the US should not have responded to 9/11, should have also left Saddam in power, not respond to his earlier invasion of Kuwait, etc, etc. Just let Muslims do whatever they feel like otherwise they will unleash chaos?

9/11 would never have happened if we'd stayed out of the M.E. in the first place

Well, if they can fly planes into our buildings and drive trucks into our civilians we can bomb them back to hell.

If anything, the response by the US and West was way too timid. These fanatics are not like us, they understand nothing but force. They exercise force and they will be called to heel by nothing but force.

I have no sympathy for Afghans, Iranians, Iraqis, Syrians, Yemenis. They are battling each other, as they have done for centuries, but this time we get involved. We can't seal them off - if only we could - so we are inevitably dragged into their mindless tribal feuds.

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............the response by the US and West was way too timid.........

cowardly timid.
there has been no response.

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45757 Gender:	Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas Reply #64 - Dec 21^st, 2016 at 11:31pm The clash of civilisations has been on for 1400 years. It's heating up now, not for the first time. You can be with civilisation or you can be with the heathens.
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Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas
Reply #65 - Dec 21^st, 2016 at 11:43pm

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2016 at 10:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 21^st, 2016 at 6:36pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2016 at 10:00am:

Unforgiven wrote on Dec 20^th, 2016 at 8:49pm:

The chaos and conflict in the Middle East and the consequent refugee stream to Europe, and terrorism in Europe has been caused by USA bombing of Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya and USA support of terrorists in Syria. Not to mention USA support and armaments for the bombing of Yemen.

There wouldn't be a problem if USA had not meddled in the affairs of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and Yemen.

You mean the US should not have responded to 9/11, should have also left Saddam in power, not respond to his earlier invasion of Kuwait, etc, etc. Just let Muslims do whatever they feel like otherwise they will unleash chaos?

9/11 would never have happened if we'd stayed out of the M.E. in the first place

Well, if they can fly planes into our buildings and drive trucks into our civilians we can bomb them back to hell.

If anything, the response by the US and West was way too timid. These fanatics are not like us, they understand nothing but force. They exercise force and they will be called to heel by nothing but force.

I have no sympathy for Afghans, Iranians, Iraqis, Syrians, Yemenis. They are battling each other, as they have done for centuries, but this time we get involved. We can't seal them off - if only we could - so we are inevitably dragged into their mindless tribal feuds.

Yes, everybody but the Saudis, who funded and planned 9/11. Why are you such a cowardly apologist? Roll Eyes

Tsk tsk tsk.

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Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas
Reply #66 - Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 5:27am

Berlin (CNN)A manhunt is underway for a 24-year-old Tunisia native in connection with this week's Christmas market attack in Berlin -- a man German authorities say may be "violent and armed."
Anis Amri is being sought in Monday's truck attack, which left 12 people dead and 48 injured, a wanted notice issued Wednesday by the German federal prosecutor's office said.

The suspect - 3 photos.

Police have offered a reward of up to 100,000 euros (about $104,000) for information about his whereabouts, and said Amri, who was born in Tunisia, is "under urgent suspicion."
"If you see this person that we are seeking, inform the police. Please do not put yourself in danger because this person could be violent and armed!" the notice said.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/21/europe/berlin-christmas-market-truck/index.htm...

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74417 Gender:	Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas Reply #67 - Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 8:23am Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2016 at 10:05pm: Well, if they can fly planes into our buildings and drive trucks into our civilians we can bomb them back to hell. except that we were bombing them long before any planes flew into any buildings.
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Marla Gold Member Offline Weed is my Jesus Posts: 13566 Colorado Gender:	Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas Reply #68 - Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 9:05am All MALE. What a surprise.
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Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas
Reply #69 - Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 9:09am

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2016 at 10:05pm:

If anything, the response by the US and West was way too timid. These fanatics are not like us, they understand nothing but force. They exercise force and they will be called to heel by nothing but force.

You're so funny, you're sad, troll.

Like Nicholson said, put up weapon and fight for your smacking beliefs - you know, if you can leave your bridge long enough.

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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas Reply #70 - Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 10:57am A Tunisian Christmas present from the folks who brought you the beachfront tourist massacre.
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Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas
Reply #71 - Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:09pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 8:23am:

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2016 at 10:05pm:

Well, if they can fly planes into our buildings and drive trucks into our civilians we can bomb them back to hell.

except that we were bombing them long before any planes flew into any buildings.

Really?

When?

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Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas
Reply #72 - Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:11pm

issuevoter wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 10:57am:

A Tunisian Christmas present from the folks who brought you the beachfront tourist massacre.

Do we want more Tunisians (Iraqis, Afghans, Pakistanis, Somalis, etc) or fewer??

Why are people who want to murder us for attending a Christmas market in our countries in the first place?

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Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas
Reply #73 - Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 2:32pm

Frank wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 8:23am:

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2016 at 10:05pm:

Well, if they can fly planes into our buildings and drive trucks into our civilians we can bomb them back to hell.

except that we were bombing them long before any planes flew into any buildings.

Really?

When?

pretty much the last 50 yrs.

In Osama Bin Laden's November 2002 "Letter to America",[5][6] he explicitly stated that al-Qaeda's motives for their attacks include: Western support for attacking Muslims in Somalia, supporting Russian atrocities against Muslims in Chechnya, supporting the Indian oppression against Muslims in Kashmir, the Jewish aggression against Muslims in Lebanon, the presence of US troops in Saudi Arabia,[6][7][8] US support of Israel,[9][10] and sanctions against Iraq.[1

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas
Reply #74 - Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 7:09pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 2:32pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 8:23am:

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2016 at 10:05pm:

Well, if they can fly planes into our buildings and drive trucks into our civilians we can bomb them back to hell.

except that we were bombing them long before any planes flew into any buildings.

Really?

When?

pretty much the last 50 yrs.

In Osama Bin Laden's November 2002 "Letter to America",[5][6] he explicitly stated that al-Qaeda's motives for their attacks include: Western support for attacking Muslims in Somalia, supporting Russian atrocities against Muslims in Chechnya, supporting the Indian oppression against Muslims in Kashmir, the Jewish aggression against Muslims in Lebanon, the presence of US troops in Saudi Arabia,[6][7][8] US support of Israel,[9][10] and sanctions against Iraq.[1

But why attack Germany?

They have helped the refugees.

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