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Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas
Reply #75 - Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 10:11pm

Germany’s security services are facing mounting pressure to explain how Amri could have been able to carry out Monday’s attack in spite of having been under covert surveillance for several months and known to multiple intelligence agencies for apparent ties to Islamic extremists.

A deputy chairman of Chancellor Angela Merkel’s Christian Democratic party accused German intelligence agencies of incompetence, saying Wednesday’s reports on security failures had left him “shocked”.

He was added to the government’s central terror watchlist in January and his telecommunications were under surveillance until September.

US officials said Amri was on a US no-fly list, had researched bomb-making online and been in contact with Isis at least once, the New York Times reported.

However, the Tunisian suspect dropped off the security agencies’ radar in November this year. Newspapers were highly critical of the intelligence services. The Süddeutsche Zeitung said the authorities had “fallen asleep”, while Der Spiegel weekly said on its website that “they had him in their crosshairs” and he still managed to vanish.

The best-selling Bild tabloid said in a commentary piece that in future such suspects had to be locked up and not allowed “to roam free”.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/22/police-raid-flats-in-search-for-be...

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104180 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas Reply #76 - Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 10:11pm such suspects had to be locked up and not allowed “to roam free" We need concentration camps for all suspects.
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Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas
Reply #77 - Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 10:16pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 10:11pm:

Germany’s security services are facing mounting pressure to explain how Amri could have been able to carry out Monday’s attack in spite of having been under covert surveillance for several months and known to multiple intelligence agencies for apparent ties to Islamic extremists.

A deputy chairman of Chancellor Angela Merkel’s Christian Democratic party accused German intelligence agencies of incompetence, saying Wednesday’s reports on security failures had left him “shocked”.

He was added to the government’s central terror watchlist in January and his telecommunications were under surveillance until September.

US officials said Amri was on a US no-fly list, had researched bomb-making online and been in contact with Isis at least once, the New York Times reported.

However, the Tunisian suspect dropped off the security agencies’ radar in November this year. Newspapers were highly critical of the intelligence services. The Süddeutsche Zeitung said the authorities had “fallen asleep”, while Der Spiegel weekly said on its website that “they had him in their crosshairs” and he still managed to vanish.

The best-selling Bild tabloid said in a commentary piece that in future such suspects had to be locked up and not allowed “to roam free”.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/22/police-raid-flats-in-search-for-be...

MI5 tipped off the Krauts to look for Brazilian electricians because they are easier to kill.

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Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas
Reply #78 - Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 10:26pm

Unforgiven wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 10:16pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 10:11pm:

Germany’s security services are facing mounting pressure to explain how Amri could have been able to carry out Monday’s attack in spite of having been under covert surveillance for several months and known to multiple intelligence agencies for apparent ties to Islamic extremists.

A deputy chairman of Chancellor Angela Merkel’s Christian Democratic party accused German intelligence agencies of incompetence, saying Wednesday’s reports on security failures had left him “shocked”.

He was added to the government’s central terror watchlist in January and his telecommunications were under surveillance until September.

US officials said Amri was on a US no-fly list, had researched bomb-making online and been in contact with Isis at least once, the New York Times reported.

However, the Tunisian suspect dropped off the security agencies’ radar in November this year. Newspapers were highly critical of the intelligence services. The Süddeutsche Zeitung said the authorities had “fallen asleep”, while Der Spiegel weekly said on its website that “they had him in their crosshairs” and he still managed to vanish.

The best-selling Bild tabloid said in a commentary piece that in future such suspects had to be locked up and not allowed “to roam free”.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/22/police-raid-flats-in-search-for-be...

MI5 tipped off the Krauts to look for Braziliian electricins because they are easier to kill.

are you making fun of a tragic mistake?

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Unforgiven Gold Member Offline I have sinned Posts: 8879 Gender:	Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas Reply #79 - Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 10:30pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 10:11pm: such suspects had to be locked up and not allowed “to roam free" We need concentration camps for all suspects. Australia has those, but they filled them with innocent people because they are easier to catch than terrorists.
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Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas
Reply #80 - Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 10:31pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 10:26pm:

Unforgiven wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 10:16pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 10:11pm:

Germany’s security services are facing mounting pressure to explain how Amri could have been able to carry out Monday’s attack in spite of having been under covert surveillance for several months and known to multiple intelligence agencies for apparent ties to Islamic extremists.

A deputy chairman of Chancellor Angela Merkel’s Christian Democratic party accused German intelligence agencies of incompetence, saying Wednesday’s reports on security failures had left him “shocked”.

He was added to the government’s central terror watchlist in January and his telecommunications were under surveillance until September.

US officials said Amri was on a US no-fly list, had researched bomb-making online and been in contact with Isis at least once, the New York Times reported.

However, the Tunisian suspect dropped off the security agencies’ radar in November this year. Newspapers were highly critical of the intelligence services. The Süddeutsche Zeitung said the authorities had “fallen asleep”, while Der Spiegel weekly said on its website that “they had him in their crosshairs” and he still managed to vanish.

The best-selling Bild tabloid said in a commentary piece that in future such suspects had to be locked up and not allowed “to roam free”.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/22/police-raid-flats-in-search-for-be...

MI5 tipped off the Krauts to look for Braziliian electricins because they are easier to kill.

are you making fun of a tragic mistake?

forgiven

namaste

It wasn't a mistake. They meant to kill him. It was criminal negligence.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104180 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas Reply #82 - Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 10:36pm Unforgiven wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 10:31pm: It wasn't a mistake. They meant to kill him. It was criminal negligence. The police were in a state of hysteria - they thought he had a bomb on him that he could trigger with a button. It was a tragic mistake.
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Marla Gold Member Online Weed is my Jesus Posts: 13569 Colorado Gender:	Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas Reply #83 - Dec 23^rd, 2016 at 1:14am Not only were those attackers men, but they committed those crimes in the name of violently patriarchal religions.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104180 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas Reply #84 - Dec 23^rd, 2016 at 5:48am Marla wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2016 at 1:14am: Not only were those attackers men, but they committed those crimes in the name of violently patriarchal religions. Marla - get a job & stop smoking dope.
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Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas
Reply #85 - Dec 23^rd, 2016 at 6:41am

How can one not despise those who offer platitudes after these atrocities? If they were honest, they would say, "Sorry, we are defenseless against these attacks." That would probably not be diplomatic, but they don't have to insult us with requests to turn the other cheek, when they will never be in the crowd that is mowed down.

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Reply #86 - Dec 23^rd, 2016 at 8:01am

issuevoter wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2016 at 6:41am:

How can one not despise those who offer platitudes after these atrocities? If they were honest, they would say, "Sorry, we are defenseless against these attacks." That would probably not be diplomatic, but they don't have to insult us with requests to turn the other cheek, when they will never be in the crowd that is mowed down.

Good intelligence would stop most attacks.
In this case the security services dropped the ball.

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Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas
Reply #87 - Dec 23^rd, 2016 at 8:04am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 7:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 2:32pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 8:23am:

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2016 at 10:05pm:

Well, if they can fly planes into our buildings and drive trucks into our civilians we can bomb them back to hell.

except that we were bombing them long before any planes flew into any buildings.

Really?

When?

pretty much the last 50 yrs.

In Osama Bin Laden's November 2002 "Letter to America",[5][6] he explicitly stated that al-Qaeda's motives for their attacks include: Western support for attacking Muslims in Somalia, supporting Russian atrocities against Muslims in Chechnya, supporting the Indian oppression against Muslims in Kashmir, the Jewish aggression against Muslims in Lebanon, the presence of US troops in Saudi Arabia,[6][7][8] US support of Israel,[9][10] and sanctions against Iraq.[1

But why attack Germany?

They have helped the refugees.

Because they don't give a crap about your borders ... Germany is just as good as France or England.

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Marla Gold Member Online Weed is my Jesus Posts: 13569 Colorado Gender:	Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas Reply #88 - Dec 23^rd, 2016 at 8:51am
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Re: Berlin - truck ploughs into shoppers at Christmas
Reply #89 - Dec 23^rd, 2016 at 9:15am

John Smith wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2016 at 8:04am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 7:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 2:32pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 8:23am:

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2016 at 10:05pm:

Well, if they can fly planes into our buildings and drive trucks into our civilians we can bomb them back to hell.

except that we were bombing them long before any planes flew into any buildings.

Really?

When?

pretty much the last 50 yrs.

In Osama Bin Laden's November 2002 "Letter to America",[5][6] he explicitly stated that al-Qaeda's motives for their attacks include: Western support for attacking Muslims in Somalia, supporting Russian atrocities against Muslims in Chechnya, supporting the Indian oppression against Muslims in Kashmir, the Jewish aggression against Muslims in Lebanon, the presence of US troops in Saudi Arabia,[6][7][8] US support of Israel,[9][10] and sanctions against Iraq.[1

But why attack Germany?

They have helped the refugees.

Because they don't give a crap about your borders ... Germany is just as good as France or England.

Which is why the rag heads should never be trusted or allowed into your country.

They are just violent sociopaths using a fkked up religion as an excuse.

At the very first sign they are not who they seem, the entire family should be deported, without recourse.

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