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Re: Natural Variation in regards to climate change
Reply #30 - Dec 25^th, 2016 at 6:02pm

lee wrote on Dec 25^th, 2016 at 11:15am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 25^th, 2016 at 9:56am:

But, in reality, the CO2 we’re breathing out is part of a natural cycle, by which our bodies convert carbohydrates from CO2-absorbing plants into energy, plus water and CO2. As such, we’re not adding any extra CO2.

Is it exact? Is there a peer-review study confirming this?

Or is it an urban myth - like salt being bad for you?

Also noted as another example of you expecting OTHER people to provide peer review literature that supports their assertions.

Still waiting for you to post anything credible that supports your position.

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Re: Natural Variation in regards to climate change
Reply #31 - Dec 25^th, 2016 at 6:10pm

Pho Huc wrote on Dec 25^th, 2016 at 6:02pm:

Also noted as another example of you expecting OTHER people to provide peer review literature that supports their assertions.

They are the ones making the claims.

Pho Huc wrote on Dec 25^th, 2016 at 6:02pm:

Still waiting for you to post anything credible that supports your position.

Still don't understand the concept of null hypothesis, I see. Wink

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Re: Natural Variation in regards to climate change
Reply #32 - Dec 25^th, 2016 at 6:31pm

lee wrote on Dec 25^th, 2016 at 6:10pm:

Pho Huc wrote on Dec 25^th, 2016 at 6:02pm:

Also noted as another example of you expecting OTHER people to provide peer review literature that supports their assertions.

They are the ones making the claims.

So you understand that claims without evidence are meaningless?

* Warning, I have a bank of quotes of you making definitive statements(you must have been drunk) and refusing to provide proof so either retract your statement that assertions should be proved or prepare to be shamed.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17980 Gender:	Re: Natural Variation in regards to climate change Reply #33 - Dec 25^th, 2016 at 7:12pm Pho Huc wrote on Dec 25^th, 2016 at 6:31pm: * Warning, I have a bank of quotes of you making definitive statements(you must have been drunk) and refusing to provide proof so either retract your statement that assertions should be proved or prepare to be shamed. Feel free.
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Re: Natural Variation in regards to climate change
Reply #34 - Dec 26^th, 2016 at 11:01am

lee wrote on Dec 25^th, 2016 at 11:15am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 25^th, 2016 at 9:56am:

But, in reality, the CO2 we’re breathing out is part of a natural cycle, by which our bodies convert carbohydrates from CO2-absorbing plants into energy, plus water and CO2. As such, we’re not adding any extra CO2.

Is it exact? Is there a peer-review study confirming this?

Notice how when lee realises he has been caught out he resorts to asking rhetorical questions?

lee wrote on Dec 25^th, 2016 at 11:15am:

Or is it an urban myth - like salt being bad for you?

And then tries to deflect by changing the subject....

No lee, the carbon cycle is not an urban myth. But even if you wanted to include human respiration as part of our CO2 emissions it still is insignificant compared to the those emitted by your employers in the fossil fuel industry

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In one day, the average person breathes out around 500 litres of the greenhouse gas CO2 – which amounts to around 1kg in mass. This doesn’t sound much until you take into account the fact that the world’s population is around 6.8 billion, collectively breathing out around 2500 million tonnes of the stuff each year – which is around 7 per cent of the annual CO2 tonnage churned out by the burning of fossil fuel around the world.
http://www.sciencefocus.com/qa/how-much-does-human-breathing-contribute-climate-...

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Re: Natural Variation in regards to climate change
Reply #35 - Dec 26^th, 2016 at 12:46pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 26^th, 2016 at 11:01am:

Notice how when lee realises he has been caught out he resorts to asking rhetorical questions?

Do you even understand what a rhetorical question is? I wanted an answer. Can you provide it?

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 26^th, 2016 at 11:01am:

And then tries to deflect by changing the subject....

It is a follow on from the first. Where is the peer reviewed paper for the CO2 already being accounted for?

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 26^th, 2016 at 11:01am:

But even if you wanted to include human respiration as part of our CO2 emissions it still is insignificant compared to the those emitted by your employers in the fossil fuel industry

So another 7% not from burning fossil fuels. The figure keeps going down.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Natural Variation in regards to climate change Reply #36 - Dec 26^th, 2016 at 1:07pm But that 7% was originally fixed by plants— a cycle, you see? So we don’t count human respiration.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17980 Gender:	Re: Natural Variation in regards to climate change Reply #37 - Dec 26^th, 2016 at 1:14pm Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 26^th, 2016 at 1:07pm: But that 7% was originally fixed by plants— a cycle, you see? So we don’t count human respiration. You still haven't cited the peer-reviewed paper that says that the CO2 exhaled by humans was "originally fixed by plants".
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Natural Variation in regards to climate change Reply #38 - Dec 26^th, 2016 at 8:31pm So you live exclusively off minerals?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17980 Gender:	Re: Natural Variation in regards to climate change Reply #39 - Dec 26^th, 2016 at 8:44pm Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 26^th, 2016 at 8:31pm: So you live exclusively off minerals? nope. I need CO2 an O2.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Natural Variation in regards to climate change Reply #40 - Dec 29^th, 2016 at 1:04pm CO2 and O2 are minerals as is H2O, minerals are not being plants or animals or fungi. So—you live off pulverised rocks, O2 and CO2?
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Re: Natural Variation in regards to climate change
Reply #41 - Dec 29^th, 2016 at 3:39pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 29^th, 2016 at 1:04pm:

CO2 and O2 are minerals as is H2O, minerals are not being plants or animals or fungi.

So—you live off pulverised rocks, O2 and CO2?

You really should stop reading and quoting alarmist blog sites like Skeptical science which is run by a cartoonist and fraudster called John Cook.

You really are starting to sound silly.

CO2, O2 are gases and therefore are not minerals.

H20 is a fluid therefore not a mineral.

FAIL...................... Grin

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Re: Natural Variation in regards to climate change
Reply #42 - Dec 29^th, 2016 at 5:27pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 29^th, 2016 at 1:04pm:

CO2 and O2 are minerals as is H2O, minerals are not being plants or animals or fungi.

So—you live off pulverised rocks, O2 and CO2?

"A mineral, then, must be solid under ordinary conditions of pressure and temperature."

http://www.scienceclarified.com/everyday/Real-Life-Earth-Science-Vol-2/Minerals-...

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Re: Natural Variation in regards to climate change
Reply #43 - Dec 30^th, 2016 at 11:59am

lee wrote on Dec 29^th, 2016 at 5:27pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 29^th, 2016 at 1:04pm:

CO2 and O2 are minerals as is H2O, minerals are not being plants or animals or fungi.

So—you live off pulverised rocks, O2 and CO2?

"A mineral, then, must be solid under ordinary conditions of pressure and temperature."

http://www.scienceclarified.com/everyday/Real-Life-Earth-Science-Vol-2/Minerals-...

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" (The daughters of said neurotic lib staffer of course gave up listening to mummy at the approximate age of 12 like their mum did to her mum etc yadda yadda yadda.... all fake conservatives of course that pretend they know what class is etc yadda yadda yadda

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Hey, and they all love Christmas and the fake invitations and salutations etc.... yadda yadda-.. you get the picture methinks Roll Eyes

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Natural Variation in regards to climate change Reply #44 - Dec 30^th, 2016 at 12:16pm Oil and gas are minerals too.
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