Australian Politics Forum - Natural Variation in regards to climate change

TheFunPolice Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9009 waggawagga Gender:	Re: Natural Variation in regards to climate change Reply #45 - Dec 30^th, 2016 at 12:44pm Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 30^th, 2016 at 12:16pm: Oil and gas are minerals too. I presume he took that quote out of context to make no sense for some inexplicable reason ( I said what ? )
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Re: Natural Variation in regards to climate change
Reply #46 - Dec 30^th, 2016 at 6:40pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 30^th, 2016 at 12:16pm:

Oil and gas are minerals too.

"Minerals are inorganic
They have never been alive and are not made up from plants or animals"

http://www.oum.ox.ac.uk/thezone/minerals/define/

Carbon - from trees and other carboniferous beings (humans) are by definition organic.

"An organic compound is virtually any chemical compound that contains carbon, although a consensus definition remains elusive and likely arbitrary."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_compound

Only wiki I know, but knock yourself out trying to prove otherwise.

Of course there is a legal definition, so that governments can tax extraction. Wink

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Natural Variation in regards to climate change Reply #47 - Dec 30^th, 2016 at 10:13pm Non living material is mineral. We have mineral, fungi, flora and fauna.
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Re: Natural Variation in regards to climate change
Reply #48 - Dec 31^st, 2016 at 12:00am

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 30^th, 2016 at 10:13pm:

Non living material is mineral.

Like nylon? Wink

if it has ever lived it is not mineral. It is organic.

"Minerals are solids
They are not liquids (like water), or gases (like the air around you)"

http://www.oum.ox.ac.uk/thezone/minerals/define/

I hope I am not going to fast for you.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Natural Variation in regards to climate change Reply #49 - Dec 31^st, 2016 at 6:06am If you took speed and were flying a military jet you could not go too fast for me.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17980 Gender:	Re: Natural Variation in regards to climate change Reply #50 - Dec 31^st, 2016 at 11:37am Good ole JM. He doesn't lie; he just uses primary school definitions.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Natural Variation in regards to climate change Reply #51 - Dec 31^st, 2016 at 12:16pm So Lees doesn’t live of O2 and powdered rock. He lives off O2 and plant material, maybe meat that is plant material processed by animals. Can’t live off minerals—no amino acids! No peer reviewed paper needed to prove Lee eats plants, just reason, something Lees lacks.
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Re: Natural Variation in regards to climate change
Reply #52 - Dec 31^st, 2016 at 12:31pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 31^st, 2016 at 12:16pm:

No peer reviewed paper needed to prove Lee eats plants, just reason, something Lees lacks.

You would know about lack of reason. Don't you eat plants?

Speaking of meat being plant material processed by animals; wouldn't that include methane from cows? Wouldn't that be included in the fabled carbon cycle? Why all the fuss from those opposed to cattle then?

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Natural Variation in regards to climate change Reply #53 - Dec 31^st, 2016 at 1:18pm So you accept we eat plants and breathe out CO2? That is all I was trying to get out of you.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17980 Gender:	Re: Natural Variation in regards to climate change Reply #54 - Dec 31^st, 2016 at 2:40pm Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 31^st, 2016 at 1:18pm: So you accept we eat plants and breathe out CO2? That is all I was trying to get out of you. Nope. You have been rabbiting on about gases and fluids being minerals. Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 30^th, 2016 at 12:16pm: Oil and gas are minerals too.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Natural Variation in regards to climate change Reply #55 - Dec 31^st, 2016 at 5:14pm Yup, no peer reviewed article needed. Lees eats plants.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17980 Gender:	Re: Natural Variation in regards to climate change Reply #56 - Dec 31^st, 2016 at 5:51pm Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 31^st, 2016 at 5:14pm: Yup, no peer reviewed article needed. Lees eats plants. Of course I do. You seem to smoke them.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Natural Variation in regards to climate change Reply #57 - Dec 31^st, 2016 at 5:57pm I smoke feral boar ribs, chicken wings, corned beef etc. No plants apart from the odd corn cob.
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