lee wrote on Dec 25^th, 2016 at 6:08pm:


I'm happy to talk about the minor inconsistencies if your happy to accept the overall conclusions.

There is heaps of room for debate on the factors affecting global climate, but because you refuse to acknowledge CO2 as being the main driver of climate warming(which is the fundamental conclusion of every single credible paper you publish) it is difficult to have a balanced conversation with you.

lee wrote on Dec 25^th, 2016 at 7:10pm:



I've never proposed that contributing factors be considered in isolation. They have to be considered with ALL other known variables(including CO2).

If you ever want to look at how current models attribute Forcings to different variables then go nuts, but you have to look at all the variables.



lee wrote on Dec 25^th, 2016 at 7:10pm:


That's blatantly untrue. "Some" older studies may exclude water vapor, but all the modern studies accept its role and include it in their models. (You don't want me to argue about out of date science again do you?)



Here are several credible peer reviewed documents examining in detail the relationships between CO2 and water vapour, and how it can be considered in relationship to all the other minor climatic drivers.


Colman, R., 2003: A comparison of climate feedbacks in GCMs. Climate Dyn

Senior, C. A., and J. F. B. Mitchell, 1993: Carbon dioxide and climate: The impact of cloud parameterization. J. Climate

Cess, R. D., and Coauthors, 1990: Intercomparison and interpretation of climate feedback processes in 19 atmospheric GCMs. J. Geophys. Res

lee wrote on Dec 25^th, 2016 at 7:34pm:




Yes you have. If your trying to make a more specific point than that maybe do a little but more typing, Im not telepathic -

As I recall you misquoted a line from it which you thought proved one of your nit picky little obfuscations, And then I asked you to provide a piece of credible scientific research for your opinion, and then you obfuscated.
It certainly wasnt a devastating counter argument if that's what you think........



But again, if you want to have a discussion about how our GHG's, land clearing, ocean acidification, permafrost melt, albedo variation  etc etc etc
Then Im all ears.
I will continue to reference the body of credible work on this field to support my statements, and it would be great if you could approach with the same positive intent,