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Reply #45 - Jan 7^th, 2017 at 9:43am

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2017 at 9:39am:

If Ms Ley had said she used the opportunity to finalise a purchase on an investment property whilst she was on official business in Queensland, where is the problem.

she didn't say it was an opportunity to finalise a purchase, she said she was in Brisbane on business and while there went to the Gold Coast to buy a $700 000 property the unit on a whim.

the argument is that she 'created' the business so as to justify charging taxpayers for her trip to buy the property.

If she is telling the truth she'll have no problem releasing her diary.

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Reply #46 - Jan 7^th, 2017 at 9:45am

Here's the problem. Travel entitlements are made to be rorted.

Fly up to the Goldy, do 30 mins and one second of work then, oh, golly gosh, what will I do with the rest of the day, hey kids, Sea world, Dream World, Movie World? Weeeeeee. Not premeditated, no problem.

Ley effed up because she did something that could be called premeditated personal business. In reality, there's no difference to what she did and what they all do on just about every single trip that's not the standard Canberra commute.

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Reply #47 - Jan 7^th, 2017 at 9:48am

Gordon wrote on Jan 6^th, 2017 at 10:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 6^th, 2017 at 10:08pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 6^th, 2017 at 10:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 6^th, 2017 at 9:57pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 6^th, 2017 at 9:04pm:

Cashed up buyers literally drive past an auction about to start on the street flick through the contract and buy it.

cashed up buyers don't need a mortgage Cheesy

Ummmmm. They still finance their purchases but they have a banker on speed dial.

calling your banker while at an auction is not a banker on speed dial, its pre arranged. Bankers still have forms to fill out and signatures to acquire ... her banker is in NSW, auction in QLD

ohh, interesting fact, the person she bought the house from had previously donated $50k to the liberal party that year

impulse buy my arse.

I'm not making a judgment about her particular situation, I'm just saying people with a lot of juice who know their financial situation do buy on impulse and getting finance later is just phone call. I've done it myself. $700k is not that big a deal.

My neighbors bought an investment property on impulse when driving past a house being auctioned that day.

Most of the lefties in this forum haven't got 2 bob to rub between their fingers so they have no idea of what happens in the real world

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Reply #48 - Jan 7^th, 2017 at 9:49am

Despite what politicians claim, the family reunion scheme seems to be little more than a perk used to hitch a taxpayer-funded family holiday to parliamentary work in places many Australians can only dream of visiting for a break.

No MP ever seems to use the family reunion entitlement during a visit to a disadvantaged remote Aboriginal community or a fact-finding mission to a town on its knees as its manufacturing base collapses.
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/mps-show-they-still-dont-get-it-on-travel-enti...

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Re: Sussan Ley's impulse purchase of luxury apartment
Reply #49 - Jan 7^th, 2017 at 9:52am

John Smith wrote on Jan 7^th, 2017 at 9:43am:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2017 at 9:39am:

If Ms Ley had said she used the opportunity to finalise a purchase on an investment property whilst she was on official business in Queensland, where is the problem.

she didn't say it was an opportunity to finalise a purchase, she said she was in Brisbane on business and while there went to the Gold Coast to buy a $700 000 property the unit on a whim.

the argument is that she 'created' the business so as to justify charging taxpayers for her trip to buy the property.

If she is telling the truth she'll have no problem releasing her diary.

Oh yes it sounds very suss....Much of what politicians do on official business is pretty suss....She will pay the money back and nothing will happen!!!

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Re: Sussan Ley's impulse purchase of luxury apartment
Reply #50 - Jan 7^th, 2017 at 10:33am

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 7^th, 2017 at 9:48am:

Gordon wrote on Jan 6^th, 2017 at 10:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 6^th, 2017 at 10:08pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 6^th, 2017 at 10:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 6^th, 2017 at 9:57pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 6^th, 2017 at 9:04pm:

Cashed up buyers literally drive past an auction about to start on the street flick through the contract and buy it.

cashed up buyers don't need a mortgage Cheesy

Ummmmm. They still finance their purchases but they have a banker on speed dial.

calling your banker while at an auction is not a banker on speed dial, its pre arranged. Bankers still have forms to fill out and signatures to acquire ... her banker is in NSW, auction in QLD

ohh, interesting fact, the person she bought the house from had previously donated $50k to the liberal party that year

impulse buy my arse.

I'm not making a judgment about her particular situation, I'm just saying people with a lot of juice who know their financial situation do buy on impulse and getting finance later is just phone call. I've done it myself. $700k is not that big a deal.

My neighbors bought an investment property on impulse when driving past a house being auctioned that day.

Most of the lefties in this forum haven't got 2 bob to rub between their fingers so they have no idea of what happens in the real world

If it doesn't meet community expectations then be prepared to be lambasted over it. That's what happened with Bishop's choppergate.

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Re: Sussan Ley's impulse purchase of luxury apartment
Reply #51 - Jan 7^th, 2017 at 10:37am

Gordon wrote on Jan 7^th, 2017 at 9:49am:

Despite what politicians claim, the family reunion scheme seems to be little more than a perk used to hitch a taxpayer-funded family holiday to parliamentary work in places many Australians can only dream of visiting for a break.

No MP ever seems to use the family reunion entitlement during a visit to a disadvantaged remote Aboriginal community or a fact-finding mission to a town on its knees as its manufacturing base collapses.
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/mps-show-they-still-dont-get-it-on-travel-enti...

This is an excellent article. Well done for locating it.

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Re: Sussan Ley's impulse purchase of luxury apartment
Reply #52 - Jan 7^th, 2017 at 12:07pm

stunspore wrote on Jan 6^th, 2017 at 12:54pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 6^th, 2017 at 11:06am:

She didn't break any rules.
She did her job by attending the events.
So according to King she has no entitlement to other life outside of government. Well that is interesting.
Cheesy

Labor once more overstepping the mark, and throwing mud hoping it will stick. Roll Eyes

Yes quite right. The luxury apartment purchase wasn't planned before the trip. It just happened to also be an impulse buy during the trip. Trip would have happened regardless. However, it does not pass the so called "Hockey pub sniff test". As hideous as the choppergate. Ofc, since this is a lib we are talking about, they are entitled regardless.

Purely coincidental that the property belonged to a lib donor and known acquaintance ofc.

Yes well just another outpouring of ALP propaganda by a Prog.
Listen... don't quote me unless you are going to address what I actually said... you just waste my time and that of others. Cheesy

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Re: Sussan Ley's impulse purchase of luxury apartment
Reply #53 - Jan 7^th, 2017 at 12:10pm

One more time for the Uber-dummies...
Grendel wrote on Jan 6^th, 2017 at 11:06am:

She didn't break any rules.
She did her job by attending the events.
So according to King she has no entitlement to other life outside of government. Well that is interesting.
Cheesy

Labor once more overstepping the mark, and throwing mud hoping it will stick. Roll Eyes

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Re: Sussan Ley's impulse purchase of luxury apartment
Reply #54 - Jan 7^th, 2017 at 12:19pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 7^th, 2017 at 9:48am:

Gordon wrote on Jan 6^th, 2017 at 10:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 6^th, 2017 at 10:08pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 6^th, 2017 at 10:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 6^th, 2017 at 9:57pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 6^th, 2017 at 9:04pm:

Cashed up buyers literally drive past an auction about to start on the street flick through the contract and buy it.

cashed up buyers don't need a mortgage Cheesy

Ummmmm. They still finance their purchases but they have a banker on speed dial.

calling your banker while at an auction is not a banker on speed dial, its pre arranged. Bankers still have forms to fill out and signatures to acquire ... her banker is in NSW, auction in QLD

ohh, interesting fact, the person she bought the house from had previously donated $50k to the liberal party that year

impulse buy my arse.

I'm not making a judgment about her particular situation, I'm just saying people with a lot of juice who know their financial situation do buy on impulse and getting finance later is just phone call. I've done it myself. $700k is not that big a deal.

My neighbors bought an investment property on impulse when driving past a house being auctioned that day.

Most of the lefties in this forum haven't got 2 bob to rub between their fingers so they have no idea of what happens in the real world

So they just stopped and handed over the cash or the credit card and then they were on their way Cheesy

LOL

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Re: Sussan Ley's impulse purchase of luxury apartment
Reply #55 - Jan 7^th, 2017 at 12:22pm

Gordon wrote on Jan 7^th, 2017 at 9:49am:

Despite what politicians claim, the family reunion scheme seems to be little more than a perk used to hitch a taxpayer-funded family holiday to parliamentary work in places many Australians can only dream of visiting for a break.

No MP ever seems to use the family reunion entitlement during a visit to a disadvantaged remote Aboriginal community or a fact-finding mission to a town on its knees as its manufacturing base collapses.
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/mps-show-they-still-dont-get-it-on-travel-enti...

or maybe a trip to an allied war base in Iraq Wink

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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.

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Re: Sussan Ley's impulse purchase of luxury apartment
Reply #56 - Jan 7^th, 2017 at 12:24pm

Grendel wrote on Jan 7^th, 2017 at 12:10pm:

One more time for the Uber-dummies...
Grendel wrote on Jan 6^th, 2017 at 11:06am:

She didn't break any rules.
She did her job by attending the events.
So according to King she has no entitlement to other life outside of government. Well that is interesting.
Cheesy

Labor once more overstepping the mark, and throwing mud hoping it will stick. Roll Eyes

goose would prefer these rorts aren't highlighted ... just shut up and accept them, right Goose? Cheesy

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Reply #57 - Jan 7^th, 2017 at 12:25pm

stunspore wrote on Jan 7^th, 2017 at 10:37am:

Gordon wrote on Jan 7^th, 2017 at 9:49am:

Despite what politicians claim, the family reunion scheme seems to be little more than a perk used to hitch a taxpayer-funded family holiday to parliamentary work in places many Australians can only dream of visiting for a break.

No MP ever seems to use the family reunion entitlement during a visit to a disadvantaged remote Aboriginal community or a fact-finding mission to a town on its knees as its manufacturing base collapses.
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/mps-show-they-still-dont-get-it-on-travel-enti...

This is an excellent article. Well done for locating it.

I hit a paywall ... can you please copy /paste the article for those of us who don't subscribe?

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Re: Sussan Ley's impulse purchase of luxury apartment
Reply #58 - Jan 7^th, 2017 at 12:36pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 7^th, 2017 at 12:19pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 7^th, 2017 at 9:48am:

Gordon wrote on Jan 6^th, 2017 at 10:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 6^th, 2017 at 10:08pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 6^th, 2017 at 10:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 6^th, 2017 at 9:57pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 6^th, 2017 at 9:04pm:

Cashed up buyers literally drive past an auction about to start on the street flick through the contract and buy it.

cashed up buyers don't need a mortgage Cheesy

Ummmmm. They still finance their purchases but they have a banker on speed dial.

calling your banker while at an auction is not a banker on speed dial, its pre arranged. Bankers still have forms to fill out and signatures to acquire ... her banker is in NSW, auction in QLD

ohh, interesting fact, the person she bought the house from had previously donated $50k to the liberal party that year

impulse buy my arse.

I'm not making a judgment about her particular situation, I'm just saying people with a lot of juice who know their financial situation do buy on impulse and getting finance later is just phone call. I've done it myself. $700k is not that big a deal.

My neighbors bought an investment property on impulse when driving past a house being auctioned that day.

Most of the lefties in this forum haven't got 2 bob to rub between their fingers so they have no idea of what happens in the real world

So they just stopped and handed over the cash or the credit card and then they were on their way Cheesy

LOL

Wow, you're not good at this

Bpay by phone for a portion of the balance is accepted at auctions with the full balance payable on the next business day.

Seriously guys, people do this ALL the time

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75862 Gender:	Re: Sussan Ley's impulse purchase of luxury apartment Reply #59 - Jan 7^th, 2017 at 12:37pm Gordon wrote on Jan 7^th, 2017 at 12:36pm: Bpay by phone for a portion of the balance is accepted at auctions with the full balance payable on the next business day. so no finance?
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