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Reply #30 - Jan 18^th, 2017 at 7:34pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 16^th, 2017 at 3:16pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 16^th, 2017 at 2:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 16^th, 2017 at 1:59pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 16^th, 2017 at 5:23am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 15^th, 2017 at 6:59pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 15^th, 2017 at 6:53pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 15^th, 2017 at 6:31pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 15^th, 2017 at 6:14pm:

I got paid by the Fed govt to use guns, sub machine guns and automatic rifles

The govt wanted me to kill people

I was in the same boat. People can enlist if they want access to fully-automatic firearms. Not sure why Bigol64 wants access to them. Does he want to kill people? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

I never said anything of the sort; please refrain from being a lying piece of sh1t.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. You do know what a question mark signifies at the end of the sentence, don't you? It means I'm asking a question. Do you want to kill people? You've answer in the negative, so excellent. So why do you want semi-automatic or fully-automatic firearms, Bigol64?

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Get a child to explain what I wrote if your comprehension skills are that limited.

So, why the desire for weapons which are banned, Bigol64? Do you feel inadequate without one in your hands? Roll Eyes

That is why you are a lying peice of sh1t, I never made any such statement or request.

How is asking a question, "lying", Bigol64? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

Learn basic english champ, that wasn't a question that was a statement

Take another look, Bighole.

"So, why the desire for weapons which are banned, Bigol64? Do you feel inadequate without one in your hands?"

Do you know what those things I've highlighted are?

Goodbye greg, many thanks f V cking off.

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Brian Ross on why Muslims kill Quote:-" It appears to be a cultural thing, rather than something they have learnt from their religion, despite what you appear to believe."

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59724 Here Gender:	Re: We are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by.... Reply #31 - Jan 18^th, 2017 at 7:37pm Quote: We are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by.... There would be a nice irony in sentencing them to a firing squad, possibly a tad harsh though.
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Reply #32 - Jan 18^th, 2017 at 8:09pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 16^th, 2017 at 1:58pm:

Muslims like all other Australians are covered by the various Counter-Terrorism and Crimes Acts already, Bigol64. They do not require special consideration as their religion teaches that they should obey the laws of the land in which they are resident. Some Islamists have decided to ignore that instruction. Should all Muslims be singled out for a law which is illegal under Section 116 of the Australian Constitution? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Moslems say those words.

But those words are a complete lie.

Chase that concept up, on ISLAMIC www sites.

They state [as advice to the moslem, living within a secular jurisdiction] that the moslem,
1/ "should obey the laws of the land in which they are resident"
.....[with the proviso, which is the religious 'get out', of moslem obedience to secular law]
2/ whenever the local secular laws do not clash with Allah's law.

i.e.
The full advice is;
"1/ The moslem should obey the laws of the land in which they are resident,
2/ whenever the local secular laws do not clash with Allah's law."

Moslems speak the 1st, ....and omit the 2nd.

Its called sophistry.

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Baronvonrort Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19085 Gender:	Re: We are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by.... Reply #33 - Jan 18^th, 2017 at 9:19pm All gun owners have been judged to be mass murdering terrorists because of 1 person, that is why they cannot own certain types of firearms.
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Reply #35 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 2:27pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 9:19pm:

All gun owners have been judged to be mass murdering terrorists because of 1 person, that is why they cannot own certain types of firearms.

Have they? Your evidence for that? You mean you had your gun owning privilege changed with new rules introduced to prove that you were capable of owning a firearm which was suitable to the purposes that most gun owners claimed they owned them for? Tsk, tsk, don't you like being held accountable like that? I suppose, you could have just continued lying, now couldn't you, Baron? Roll Eyes

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Reply #36 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 2:39pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 11:44am:

I dont judge gun owners by the actions of say a Martin Bryant, I judge them by the words of say a Panther or Baron

You would be one of a very few, including that piece of sh1t now ex-prime minister of Australia.

All gun laws since 1996 are premised on that very concept. To say different is a lie.

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Reply #37 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 6:13pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 2:39pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 11:44am:

I dont judge gun owners by the actions of say a Martin Bryant, I judge them by the words of say a Panther or Baron

You would be one of a very few, including that piece of sh1t now ex-prime minister of Australia.

All gun laws since 1996 are premised on that very concept. To say different is a lie.

You have evidence of this "lie", Bigol64? I seem to remember John Winston Howard always spoke of the cumulative effect of Hoddle Street, Strathfield, etc. Not just Port Arthur but that was the straw that broke the camel's back, without a doubt. Just too many lies told by too many gun nuts who didn't understand that their gun ownership was a privilege, not a right, under Australian law. Roll Eyes

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Reply #38 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 6:25pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 6:13pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 2:39pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 11:44am:

I dont judge gun owners by the actions of say a Martin Bryant, I judge them by the words of say a Panther or Baron

You would be one of a very few, including that piece of sh1t now ex-prime minister of Australia.

All gun laws since 1996 are premised on that very concept. To say different is a lie.

You have evidence of this "lie", Bigol64? I seem to remember John Winston Howard always spoke of the cumulative effect of Hoddle Street, Strathfield, etc. Not just Port Arthur but that was the straw that broke the camel's back, without a doubt. Just too many lies told by too many gun nuts who didn't understand that their gun ownership was a privilege, not a right, under Australian law. Roll Eyes

So when it's Muslims - it's only a minority .

But when it's guns your minority argument doesn't apply??????? Undecided

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Reply #39 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 6:52pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 6:13pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 2:39pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 11:44am:

I dont judge gun owners by the actions of say a Martin Bryant, I judge them by the words of say a Panther or Baron

You would be one of a very few, including that piece of sh1t now ex-prime minister of Australia.

All gun laws since 1996 are premised on that very concept. To say different is a lie.

You have evidence of this "lie", Bigol64? I seem to remember John Winston Howard always spoke of the cumulative effect of Hoddle Street, Strathfield, etc. Not just Port Arthur but that was the straw that broke the camel's back, without a doubt. Just too many lies told by too many gun nuts who didn't understand that their gun ownership was a privilege, not a right, under Australian law. Roll Eyes

Never said it was a right, liar, not a good start there brian if you need to lie to support your feeble argument.

Everything I sated is in fact very true; howard is a piece of sh1t there is no doubting that by anyone.

Every gun law is based on the premise that gun owners are to be considered as potential mass murderers. Howard made sure of that at very opportunity and it continues today.

BTW Im NOT a gun owner, I just hate lying pieces of sh1t.

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Reply #41 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 7:45pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 11:44am:

I dont judge gun owners by the actions of say a Martin Bryant, I judge them by the words of say a Panther or Baron

I have no criminal record never had any mental illness, my last fine was a parking ticket 17 years ago.

The only 3 times I have been to court has been as a witness for the police.

The hoplophobes claim all law abiding firearm owners are mass murdering terrorists that is why we cannot have semi auto rifles or shotguns.

For some reason the dopey hoplophobes who praise our laws think pump action rifles with 10 round magazines and 10 times the effective range of a pump action shotgun are not scary and allowed to be owned yet they crap their pants at the thought of people owning pump action shotguns or even lever action shotguns that hold more than 5 rounds.

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Reply #42 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 8:57pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 6:52pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 6:13pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 2:39pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 11:44am:

I dont judge gun owners by the actions of say a Martin Bryant, I judge them by the words of say a Panther or Baron

You would be one of a very few, including that piece of sh1t now ex-prime minister of Australia.

All gun laws since 1996 are premised on that very concept. To say different is a lie.

You have evidence of this "lie", Bigol64? I seem to remember John Winston Howard always spoke of the cumulative effect of Hoddle Street, Strathfield, etc. Not just Port Arthur but that was the straw that broke the camel's back, without a doubt. Just too many lies told by too many gun nuts who didn't understand that their gun ownership was a privilege, not a right, under Australian law. Roll Eyes

Never said it was a right, liar, not a good start there brian if you need to lie to support your feeble argument.

Where did I claim YOU had, "lied", Bigol64? That is unless you admit to being a "gun nut"? Roll Eyes

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Everything I sated is in fact very true; howard is a piece of sh1t there is no doubting that by anyone.

On many things yes, I agree, he is a piece of poo but on gun control? Nope, he saw it and he called it and the overwhelming majority of Australian voters supported him. Gun control has never been an election issue 1996. Even the supposedly "pro-gun" politicians have not attempted to make it one.

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Every gun law is based on the premise that gun owners are to be considered as potential mass murderers. Howard made sure of that at very opportunity and it continues today.

No, gun laws are based on the idea that you need to demonstrate your need to own a gun, Bigol64. There is no pre-determined guilt nor any claims that all gun owners are "mass murderers". Indeed, considering that there are now more guns owned than were before Port Arthur, you'd have to question your attitude towards the gun laws. It seems most Australians don't agree with you.

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BTW Im NOT a gun owner, I just hate lying pieces of sh1t.

That is your option, Bigol64 just don't assume that the majority of Australians agree with your view WRT to firearms ownership. John Howard lifted the circuit breaker and Australia has changed as a consequence.

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Reply #43 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 9:00pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 6:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 6:13pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 2:39pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 11:44am:

I dont judge gun owners by the actions of say a Martin Bryant, I judge them by the words of say a Panther or Baron

You would be one of a very few, including that piece of sh1t now ex-prime minister of Australia.

All gun laws since 1996 are premised on that very concept. To say different is a lie.

You have evidence of this "lie", Bigol64? I seem to remember John Winston Howard always spoke of the cumulative effect of Hoddle Street, Strathfield, etc. Not just Port Arthur but that was the straw that broke the camel's back, without a doubt. Just too many lies told by too many gun nuts who didn't understand that their gun ownership was a privilege, not a right, under Australian law. Roll Eyes

So when it's Muslims - it's only a minority .

But when it's guns your minority argument doesn't apply??????? Undecided

Gun owners reacted badly when their gun owning privileges were changed. I have a single word for them. It's "tough". Get used to it. Gun ownership under Australian law is not a right and never has been, it has always been a privilege. Time the gun nuts woke up to just how unpopular their viewpoint on gun ownership is in Australian society. Roll Eyes

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Reply #44 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 9:02pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 9:00pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 6:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 6:13pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 2:39pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 11:44am:

I dont judge gun owners by the actions of say a Martin Bryant, I judge them by the words of say a Panther or Baron

You would be one of a very few, including that piece of sh1t now ex-prime minister of Australia.

All gun laws since 1996 are premised on that very concept. To say different is a lie.

You have evidence of this "lie", Bigol64? I seem to remember John Winston Howard always spoke of the cumulative effect of Hoddle Street, Strathfield, etc. Not just Port Arthur but that was the straw that broke the camel's back, without a doubt. Just too many lies told by too many gun nuts who didn't understand that their gun ownership was a privilege, not a right, under Australian law. Roll Eyes

So when it's Muslims - it's only a minority .

But when it's guns your minority argument doesn't apply??????? Undecided

Gun owners reacted badly when their gun owning privileges were changed. I have a single word for them. It's "tough". Get used to it. Gun ownership under Australian law is not a right and never has been, it has always been a privilege. Time the gun nuts woke up to just how unpopular their viewpoint on gun ownership is in Australian society. Roll Eyes

But Brian , only a minority are irresponsible. Don't judge them all the same. Grin

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