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Reply #105 - Feb 6^th, 2017 at 12:04am

rhino wrote on Feb 5^th, 2017 at 9:23pm:

skull shape. Forensic anthropologists use skull size and shape to differentiate between races.

Forensic Anthropology is only about what can be physically observed, Rhino. Genetics is about the genetic make up of what makes a human being a member of the Homo Sapien Sapiens species - the only "race" which matters, the human one. Roll Eyes

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 42329	Re: Are abos an inferior race? Reply #106 - Feb 6^th, 2017 at 12:05am Grendel wrote on Feb 5^th, 2017 at 9:57pm: Re your "skin" map and post bwian...wassup failed or never studied biology? You certainly failed English... Racial differences do not merely include skin colour bwian. Do grow up.
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Reply #107 - Feb 6^th, 2017 at 12:20am

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 12:04am:

rhino wrote on Feb 5^th, 2017 at 9:23pm:

skull shape. Forensic anthropologists use skull size and shape to differentiate between races.

Forensic Anthropology is only about what can be physically observed, Rhino. Genetics is about the genetic make up of what makes a human being a member of the Homo Sapien Sapiens species - the only "race" which matters, the human one. Roll Eyes

And? Forensic anthropologists define races by using physical characteristics, how can they do this if races dont exist and if as you maintain there is more difference within races than between them.?

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Reply #108 - Feb 6^th, 2017 at 12:45am

rhino wrote on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 12:20am:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 12:04am:

rhino wrote on Feb 5^th, 2017 at 9:23pm:

skull shape. Forensic anthropologists use skull size and shape to differentiate between races.

Forensic Anthropology is only about what can be physically observed, Rhino. Genetics is about the genetic make up of what makes a human being a member of the Homo Sapien Sapiens species - the only "race" which matters, the human one. Roll Eyes

And? Forensic anthropologists define races by using physical characteristics, how can they do this if races dont exist and if as you maintain there is more difference within races than between them.?

Physical characteristics are simply too broad, you can have Europeans with large, African type skulls, Africans with small, Asian shaped skulls and so on and so on.

Have you ever heard of "The Elephant Man," Rhino? What would a forensic anthropologist make of his skull? What about "The Piltdown Man"? All unusual skull shapes, not normally associated with Europeans. Roll Eyes

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Reply #109 - Feb 6^th, 2017 at 12:54am

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 12:45am:

rhino wrote on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 12:20am:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 12:04am:

rhino wrote on Feb 5^th, 2017 at 9:23pm:

skull shape. Forensic anthropologists use skull size and shape to differentiate between races.

Forensic Anthropology is only about what can be physically observed, Rhino. Genetics is about the genetic make up of what makes a human being a member of the Homo Sapien Sapiens species - the only "race" which matters, the human one. Roll Eyes

And? Forensic anthropologists define races by using physical characteristics, how can they do this if races dont exist and if as you maintain there is more difference within races than between them.?

Physical characteristics are simply too broad, you can have Europeans with large, African type skulls, Africans with small, Asian shaped skulls and so on and so on.

If this was so forensic anthopology wouldnt exist, it is a fact that different races physical characteristics do conform to certain rules.

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Have you ever heard of "The Elephant Man," Rhino? What would a forensic anthropologist make of his skull? What about "The Piltdown Man"? All unusual skull shapes, not normally associated with Europeans. Roll Eyes

They would make out the elephant man was deformed, whether or not they would be able to define his race I dont know, that however is irrelevant. The Piltdown man was a hoax.

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Reply #110 - Feb 6^th, 2017 at 1:02am

rhino wrote on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 12:54am:

They would make out the elephant man was deformed, whether or not they would be able to define his race I dont know, that however is irrelevant. The Piltdown man was a hoax.

Ah, but the Piltdown Man was created from bone fragments, Rhino, one of which was part of a human skull.

As for the Elephant Man, yes he was deformed but he was still a European man. According to you, the magic of Forensic Anthropology should have been able to identify him... Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Reply #111 - Feb 6^th, 2017 at 1:17am

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 1:02am:

rhino wrote on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 12:54am:

They would make out the elephant man was deformed, whether or not they would be able to define his race I dont know, that however is irrelevant. The Piltdown man was a hoax.

Ah, but the Piltdown Man was created from bone fragments, Rhino, one of which was part of a human skull.

As for the Elephant Man, yes he was deformed but he was still a European man. According to you, the magic of Forensic Anthropology should have been able to identify him... Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

I didnt state anything regarding manufactured or deformed skulls. You are just deflecting, the facts are that forensic anthropologists do use bones including skulls to define race. and they are successful at it.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Are abos an inferior race? Reply #112 - Feb 6^th, 2017 at 10:27am To put it simply bwian YOU ARE WRONG... Races exist... Nothing you say or do will change that. I see no reason to post more proof because you simply ignore it.
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Reply #113 - Feb 6^th, 2017 at 5:32pm

"Race" is a social construct. Genetically, we all belong to the one human species, Homo Sapien Sapiens. We all share the same Genes, we all are able to interbreed. We all belong to the Human race, the only "race" that matters. Racism is based upon lies and prejudice surround the physical differences between individuals. The colour of one's skin, the shape of one's eyes, the thickness of one's lips, do not determine anything other than the physical appearance of an individual, they do not affect the mental ability or capacity of people. Roll Eyes

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Are abos an inferior race? Reply #114 - Feb 6^th, 2017 at 7:09pm NO IT ISN'T BWIAN.... go back and re-educate yourself in facts and reality... how many times must people post them for you until you finally accept you are wrong ?
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Reply #115 - Feb 6^th, 2017 at 7:11pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 5^th, 2017 at 12:45pm:

Bwian denies biology...
Biology is a natural science concerned with the study of life and living organisms, including their structure, function, growth, evolution, distribution, identification and taxonomy. Modern biology is a vast and eclectic field, composed of many branches and subdisciplines.

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Human skin color ranges in variety from the darkest brown to the lightest hues. An individual's skin pigmentation is the result of genetics, being the product of both of the individual's biological parents' genetic makeup. In evolution, skin pigmentation in human beings evolved by a process of natural selection primarily to regulate the amount of ultraviolet radiation penetrating the skin, controlling its biochemical effects

FACTS.... YOU ARE WRONG!!!

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Re: Are abos an inferior race?
Reply #116 - Feb 6^th, 2017 at 7:12pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 11:21am:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 8:52pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 8:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 7:44pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 7:09pm:

I'm just telling the truth. As the world population gets larger people will move into aboriginal land to live and collect resources. Then they will be consumed. It's just nature. Nothing stays the same in nature. Just like how the white population in Australia is being changed so will the aboriginal population.

No one, except racists care about "race" any more, Hammer. That is reality. White people, brown people, black people, yellow people are all mixing and all will end up coffee coloured. No one cares about "race" any more. No one. Roll Eyes

So all those ads saying 'Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders are encouraged to apply" refer to no identifiable group, after all, because there are no such things as Aborigines. Racial dioscrimination (18) is buncum because there is no such thing as race to be the grounds of discriminartion.

Timmie Southpommie will not be happy about this, Brian, you are doing him out of a very lucrative job.

tut tut is in order, what?? Roll Eyes

As always, "race" is a social construct, Soren. You construct a hierarchy on the basis of "race" which is centred around superficial, physical adaptations to environment such as skin colour/eye shape/etc, not on what makes a human a human, their Genetics. Simples, really. Roll Eyes

Well I have pointed out your disingeuousness in regards this b4 bwian, but it seems you never learn. perhaps all that yawning is the problem with you.

http://time.com/91081/what-science-says-about-race-and-genetics/

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A longstanding orthodoxy among social scientists holds that human races are a social construct and have no biological basis. A related assumption is that human evolution halted in the distant past, so long ago that evolutionary explanations need never be considered by historians or economists.

In the decade since the decoding of the human genome, a growing wealth of data has made clear that

these two positions, never at all likely to begin with, are simply incorrect. There is indeed a biological basis for race.

And it is now beyond doubt that

human evolution is a continuous process that has proceeded vigorously within the last 30,000 years

and almost certainly — though very recent evolution is hard to measure — throughout the historical period and up until the present day.

MORE FACTS PROVING YOU EVEN MORE WRONG!!!

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 42329	Re: Are abos an inferior race? Reply #117 - Feb 6^th, 2017 at 9:22pm
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Reply #118 - Feb 6^th, 2017 at 9:48pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

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"Race" is a social construct. Genetically, we all belong to the one human species, Homo Sapien Sapiens. We all share the same Genes, we all are able to interbreed. We all belong to the Human race, the only "race" that matters. Racism is based upon lies and prejudice surround the physical differences between individuals. The colour of one's skin, the shape of one's eyes, the thickness of one's lips, do not determine anything other than the physical appearance of an individual, they do not affect the mental ability or capacity of people. Roll Eyes

science disagrees.

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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: Are abos an inferior race? Reply #119 - Feb 6^th, 2017 at 10:38pm The answer to the question is a resounding NO. It does really beg the question... compared to what exactly??
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