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Reply #210 - Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:20pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:17pm:
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No its not it just means that some of us are more well read on the topic.. that is the extent of it. To say that Australia wasn't "colonised" using brutality and force is to ignore facts.
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Reply #211 - Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:22pm
 
cods wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:18pm:
Agnes wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:11pm:
cods wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 2:59pm:
Agnes wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 1:14pm:
cods wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 10:33am:
mothra wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 10:26am:
Do you need a book to tel you how Aboriginal people were treated



yes please just to know where you get you knowledge from...it would be a great help thank you

like I said I know some god awful things happened....

in very very difficult times..

but nothing like you claim..

so yes point me to the historian you are reading..

the BRITISH .. your words..

I am surprised there are any aboriginals left to be honest. Angry

you do know european diseases counted for a lot of deaths .. were they also chopped up and sent off to Britain.


Indigenous culture and history is in all academic/university text books now..it is set in stone..what Mothra says is the absolute truth.


you would know agnes


you are good at reinventing history to suit yourself...

there was a lot of bad stuff do you know of any historian who has denied they made a bad start??????

shall we say like those who deny the Holocaust ?

if whitey denied any of it went on.. I can understand the grief I really can..

but to my knowledge no one does...

what the hell do you lefties want DONE ABOUT IT..

as boges has asked..

are you giving up your land to them???... what are you and mothra doing to make all this history go AWAY??..

believe me....I will be right behind you if you can do that...

but stretching it and making it look like an invasion really is pretty low.

and guess what..

wont change a bloody thing.

It was an invasion..truth. It was brutal- truth.

I really could not be bothered with those who refuse to read a few facts about the country they live in.



how many were shot to death in 1770.. when Capt Cook arrived with the first fleet...

you must have those FACTS....

I have things to do..I suggest you look up a few facts cods.. I think even good old wikipedia might give you something to think about.. Ciao' for now stooges.
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Reply #212 - Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:25pm
 
cods wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:11pm:
Agnes wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:07pm:
You have terrible chip on your shoulder cods..you divide pp up into left and right.

Wikipedia you say..lol..no dear..University text books !



ok show us the book you have read cover to cover..

me divide people up.. Roll Eyes

have you read the American forum... Grin Grin Grin Grin

of course you have... Grin Grin Grin Grin

thats what I mean about lefties forgetting  what they say and what other lefties say that they never challenge....

its ok though...as we both know you have said your opinionof me loud and clear on the forum before..

so I certainly know whos good at doing that..

fly swatting wasnt it?
.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

only if you consider yourself a fly..
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Re: Invasion Day and Terra Nullius
Reply #213 - Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:26pm
 
cods wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 2:53pm:
mothra wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 10:39am:
cods wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 10:33am:
mothra wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 10:26am:
Do you need a book to tel you how Aboriginal people were treated



yes please just to know where you get you knowledge from...it would be a great help thank you

like I said I know some god awful things happened....

in very very difficult times..

but nothing like you claim..

so yes point me to the historian you are reading..

the BRITISH .. your words..

I am surprised there are any aboriginals left to be honest. Angry

you do know european diseases counted for a lot of deaths .. were they also chopped up and sent off to Britain.





Nothing like i claim?

please tel me what i have claimed you disagree with

Yes. Let's start there..




you didnt mention how many whites were slain by aborigines.....you claim basically it is all the whites did.. killkillkill..

your pretty disgusting all up.. as their would be no aborigines left.......the tribes were fighting amongst themselves its what they did..

human bones taken back were done so for science....it is what they did in those years.. you make it out to be something barbaric.
like taking back a live human and chopping him up as they went....

no one disputes what happened... through fear and greed and ignorance..

if you drag that through your life...forever and a day I feel sorry for you.......because I am sure any person who has dared say a bad word to you probably gets reminded every time they upset you..

I cant stand people like that.





Cods, do me a favour and read that again. Te m if you think it makes sense. Fair dinkum. This is why people say you drink.

And the human artifacts wren't just taken back for science. They were taken back as curios.

Just so you know.
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Reply #214 - Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:28pm
 
rhino wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 2:42pm:
mothra wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 1:42pm:
rhino wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 1:38pm:
There was no "nation" to invade.  A disparate group of tribes living in enmity with each other.



There were many nations.

They had no concept of nations.



Yes. They did.
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Re: Invasion Day and Terra Nullius
Reply #215 - Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:28pm
 
Agnes wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:22pm:
cods wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:18pm:
Agnes wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:11pm:
cods wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 2:59pm:
Agnes wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 1:14pm:
cods wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 10:33am:
mothra wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 10:26am:
Do you need a book to tel you how Aboriginal people were treated



yes please just to know where you get you knowledge from...it would be a great help thank you

like I said I know some god awful things happened....

in very very difficult times..

but nothing like you claim..

so yes point me to the historian you are reading..

the BRITISH .. your words..

I am surprised there are any aboriginals left to be honest. Angry

you do know european diseases counted for a lot of deaths .. were they also chopped up and sent off to Britain.


Indigenous culture and history is in all academic/university text books now..it is set in stone..what Mothra says is the absolute truth.


you would know agnes


you are good at reinventing history to suit yourself...

there was a lot of bad stuff do you know of any historian who has denied they made a bad start??????

shall we say like those who deny the Holocaust ?

if whitey denied any of it went on.. I can understand the grief I really can..

but to my knowledge no one does...

what the hell do you lefties want DONE ABOUT IT..

as boges has asked..

are you giving up your land to them???... what are you and mothra doing to make all this history go AWAY??..

believe me....I will be right behind you if you can do that...

but stretching it and making it look like an invasion really is pretty low.

and guess what..

wont change a bloody thing.

It was an invasion..truth. It was brutal- truth.

I really could not be bothered with those who refuse to read a few facts about the country they live in.



how many were shot to death in 1770.. when Capt Cook arrived with the first fleet...

you must have those FACTS....

I have things to do..I suggest you look up a few facts cods.. I think even good old wikipedia might give you something to think about.. Ciao' for now stooges.
Yes, we know. You got nothing.
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Re: Invasion Day and Terra Nullius
Reply #216 - Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:28pm
 
Agnes wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:20pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:17pm:
miam

No its not it just means that some of us are more well read on the topic.. that is the extent of it. To say that Australia wasn't "colonised" using brutality and force is to ignore facts.
Many people didn't have a say if they came out here or not. And many people moved to the cities and never even set eyes on an aborigine. This blanket blame game is very disrespectful . It was hard times for many people. How about feeling sorry for the white people who were poorly treated in early Australia?
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Re: Invasion Day and Terra Nullius
Reply #217 - Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:28pm
 
mothra wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:28pm:
rhino wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 2:42pm:
mothra wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 1:42pm:
rhino wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 1:38pm:
There was no "nation" to invade.  A disparate group of tribes living in enmity with each other.



There were many nations.

They had no concept of nations.



Yes. They did.
Really? Why not post A copy of their constitution.
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Reply #218 - Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:29pm
 


Read the history of how the Poms treated their own at Sarah Island Tasmania.

I think they were more brutal to their own,
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Reply #219 - Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:30pm
 
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Reply #220 - Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:30pm
 
rhino wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:10pm:
pfft, if you read the historical record it doesnt support Mothras claptrap at all. Government intent towards abos was benevolent. Clashes between white settlers and abos occurred of course, just as they did between different abo tribes.




Bullshit of the highest order.
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Reply #221 - Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:34pm
 
rhino wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:28pm:
mothra wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:28pm:
rhino wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 2:42pm:
mothra wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 1:42pm:
rhino wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 1:38pm:
There was no "nation" to invade.  A disparate group of tribes living in enmity with each other.



There were many nations.

They had no concept of nations.



Yes. They did.
Really? Why not post A copy of their constitution.



Idiot.
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Reply #222 - Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:36pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:28pm:
Agnes wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:20pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:17pm:
miam

No its not it just means that some of us are more well read on the topic.. that is the extent of it. To say that Australia wasn't "colonised" using brutality and force is to ignore facts.
Many people didn't have a say if they came out here or not. And many people moved to the cities and never even set eyes on an aborigine. This blanket blame game is very disrespectful . It was hard times for many people. How about feeling sorry for the white people who were poorly treated in early Australia?

  I agree Hammer, many didn't get a say if they came here or not- I get that and that is true. Just having some input and food for thought is all. Balance because there was no balance on this topic in this thread- I feel sorry for everyone Hammer in those times..
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Reply #223 - Jan 26th, 2017 at 5:08pm
 
There is no record of there ever being a Koori word for 'land', 'country' or 'nation'  for the purpose of Native Title.
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Reply #224 - Jan 26th, 2017 at 5:10pm
 
mothra wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:34pm:
rhino wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:28pm:
mothra wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:28pm:
rhino wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 2:42pm:
mothra wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 1:42pm:
rhino wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 1:38pm:
There was no "nation" to invade.  A disparate group of tribes living in enmity with each other.



There were many nations.

They had no concept of nations.



Yes. They did.
Really? Why not post A copy of their constitution.



Idiot.
Common legal system? Arent these things a nation has?
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