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Reply #240 - Jan 28th, 2017 at 9:41am
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aboriginal_Tasmanians

The Aboriginal Tasmanians (Tasmanian: Palawa) are the indigenous people of the Australian state of Tasmania, located south of the mainland. In the 20th century the Tasmanian Aboriginal people were erroneously thought of as being an extinct cultural and ethnic group.[1] However, data from the 2011 census indicated that nearly 20, 000 people identify as Indigenous in Tasmania;[2] making Tasmania the state with the second highest proportion of indigenous to non-indigenous people in Australia.[3]

Before British colonisation in 1803, there were an estimated 3,000–15,000 Palawa.[4][5] The Palawa population was severely depleted in the 19th century. A number of historians point to introduced disease as the major cause of the depletion of the 19th century mainland Aboriginal population.[6]:pp 84–85[7]:p 388[8]:pp 66–67[9]:pp 372–376 Geoffrey Blainey wrote that by 1830 in Tasmania: "Disease had killed most of them but warfare and private violence had also been devastating."[10] Other historians regard the Black War as one of the earliest recorded modern genocides.[11] Benjamin Madley wrote: "Despite over 170 years of debate over who or what was responsible for this near-extinction, no consensus exists on its origins, process, or whether or not it was genocide". However, "[using the] UN definition, sufficient evidence exists to designate the Tasmanian catastrophe genocide."[4]

By 1833, Christian missionary George Augustus Robinson, sponsored by Lieutenant Governor George Arthur, had persuaded the approximately 200 surviving Aboriginal Tasmanians to surrender themselves with assurances that they would be protected, provided for and eventually have their lands returned to them. These 'assurances' were false, there is no suggestion that Robinson or Lieutenant-Governor Arthur intending anything else but exile to the Furneaux Islands and the assurances were given by Robinson in order to facilitate the removal of the Aboriginal people from mainland Tasmania.[12] The survivors were moved to Wybalenna Aboriginal Establishment on Flinders Island, where diseases continued to reduce their numbers even further. In 1847, the last 47 living inhabitants of Wybalenna were transferred to Oyster Cove, south of Hobart. Two individuals, Truganini (1812–1876) and Fanny Cochrane Smith (1834–1905), are separately considered to have been the last people solely of Tasmanian descent.[13][14]

The complete Indigenous Tasmanian languages have been lost; some original Tasmanian language words remained in use with Palawa people in the Furneaux Islands and currently, there are some efforts to reconstruct a language from the available wordlists. Today, some thousands of people living in Tasmania describe themselves as Aboriginal Tasmanians since a number of Parlevar women bore children to European men in the Furneaux Islands and mainland Tasmania.

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Published on Oct 8, 2015
A short introduction into the shameful apartheid and genocide that continues to this day in "The Lucky Country." Inspired by John Pilger's tireless work...
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A shameful truth

many refuse to digest ..

yet the truth remains

in love and light

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Reply #242 - Jan 28th, 2017 at 9:49am
 


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Reply #243 - Jan 28th, 2017 at 10:20am
 
Is there something you're trying to say here, light? Just spit it out and let's deal with it.

All I've seen so far is the most backward people in the world whinging about how the Poms stole their Stone Aged lifestyle, and how many abos in the early years were disposed of because of their constant stealing that was putting people's lives in jeopardy.

Throwing words around like 'genocide' simply causes you Victimhood groupies to lose credibility. The last, extinct aborigine would have met his terminal fate at around 1850 if a real genocide had been on.

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Reply #244 - Jan 28th, 2017 at 10:26am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 10:20am:
All I've seen so far is the most backward people in the world whinging about how the Poms stole their Stone Aged lifestyle, and how many abos in the early years were disposed of because of their constant stealing that was putting people's lives in jeopardy.



none so blind as those who refuse to see

The Human Zoo: Documentary sheds light on stolen Aboriginal people 'treated as animals'

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-28/the-human-zoo-documentary-aboriginal-peopl...
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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
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Reply #245 - Jan 28th, 2017 at 10:37am
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 10:26am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 10:20am:
All I've seen so far is the most backward people in the world whinging about how the Poms stole their Stone Aged lifestyle, and how many abos in the early years were disposed of because of their constant stealing that was putting people's lives in jeopardy.



none so blind as those who refuse to see

The Human Zoo: Documentary sheds light on stolen Aboriginal people 'treated as animals'

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-28/the-human-zoo-documentary-aboriginal-peopl...


Hold it right THERE, Bucko!

Did they agree to it? I myself have seen in Side Show Alley at the Royal Easter Show here at the Horden Pavilion in Sydney pigmies and other people put on display who were perfectly free to quit doing these paid jobs of exhibiting themselves.



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Reply #246 - Jan 28th, 2017 at 10:40am
 
yeah ... they were paid with jewelry

chains and shackles. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #247 - Jan 28th, 2017 at 10:57am
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 10:40am:
yeah ... they were paid with jewelry

chains and shackles. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


They travelled and 'Saw the World' - All for free!
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Reply #248 - Jan 28th, 2017 at 11:33am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 10:20am:
Is there something you're trying to say here, light? Just spit it out and let's deal with it.

All I've seen so far is the most backward people in the world whinging about how the Poms stole their Stone Aged lifestyle, and how many abos in the early years were disposed of because of their constant stealing that was putting people's lives in jeopardy.

Throwing words around like 'genocide' simply causes you Victimhood groupies to lose credibility. The last, extinct aborigine would have met his terminal fate at around 1850 if a real genocide had been on.



many blessings herbert

yet your announcement/reply remains an oxymoron ,

and a reflection of your thinking within the current state of consciousness you embody ..

( much of your confusion may be a direct result of your consumption of pain and suffering from the death and slaughter of innocent animals and yet one briefly is released from digress )

here is the meaning of the term/wordage genocide

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

Genocide


Genocide is intentional action to destroy a people (usually defined as an ethnic, national, racial, or religious group) in whole or in part. The hybrid word "genocide" is a combination of the Greek word génos ("race, people") and the Latin suffix -cide ("act of killing").
[1] The United Nations Genocide Convention defines genocide as "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group".
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The term genocide was coined in response the Armenian Genocide[4][5][6][7][8] and subsequently applied to the Holocaust. It has subsequently been applied to many other mass killings, well-known examples including the Greek genocide, the Assyrian genocide, the Holodomor, the 1971 Bangladesh genocide, the Cambodian genocide, and, more recently, the Guatemalan genocide, the Kurdish genocide, the Bosnian genocide, and the Rwandan genocide.[a]



this is clearly what happened systematically in and upon this land and country

you are exposed in your ignorance

and forgiven

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Reply #249 - Jan 28th, 2017 at 11:39am
 
How about complaining about genitalcide? Female genitalcide?

Hmmm ?
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Reply #250 - Jan 28th, 2017 at 11:41am
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 11:33am:
The term genocide was coined in response the Armenian Genocide[4][5][6][7][8] and subsequently applied to the Holocaust. It has subsequently been applied to many other mass killings, well-known examples including the Greek genocide, the Assyrian genocide, the Holodomor, the 1971 Bangladesh genocide, the Cambodian genocide, and, more recently, the Guatemalan genocide, the Kurdish genocide, the Bosnian genocide, and the Rwandan genocide.


... but ... but ... WHERE does it mention the Abocide?  Sad


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Reply #251 - Jan 28th, 2017 at 12:05pm
 
Isn't "Invasion Day" 24 January 1788?
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Reply #252 - Jan 28th, 2017 at 12:27pm
 
There was no genocide. There is no evidence of any genocide. Government documents suggest the intent was to look after aboriginal welfare.
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THE NAZI PERIOD IN ITALY
Giovanna Boursier

 
    
   
  In Italy the victims of the fascist dictatorship also included the Roma. Today, whilst historical investigation of the subject is only just beginning and has to contend with over half a century of more or less deliberate neglect and “memory lapses”, we can say with certainty that the Roma were tracked down, put on file and imprisoned by the fascist government of the time. Those interned endured cold, hunger and disease which in some cases resulted in their deaths.   
    
   



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ITALIAN ROMA CAMPS OR CAMPS
WITH ROMA INTERNEES


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INTRODUCTION




In Italy research on the persecution and internment of the Roma remains very thin on the ground – especially academic research – and there has been little study of internment in a country, which is reluctant to acknowledge its complicity with the Nazis and consequently its shared responsibility for the policy of extermination.
For this same reason, there are many gaps in facts and figures on the fascist persecution of the Roma in Italy, and it is only now, thanks to the tenacity of a few historians and researchers, that this forgotten story is starting to be told. Unfortunately, figures on the number of victims are not yet known. Nor is it possible as yet to be clear on the reasons for the persecution. But we have to appreciate that even if the fascist persecution of the Roma cannot definitely be categorised as part of a racist policy on the part of the regime, aimed, like Hitler‘s, at actually exterminating the groups in question, the fact remains that the Roma were always discriminated against, singled out and persecuted as “zingari” (“Gypsies”). And that definitely means something.

 
 


    
   
 
THE RACE QUESTION 


   


 



On October 28, 1922, the fascist Blackshirts marched on Rome and, the next day, King Victor-Emmanuel III asked Benito Mussolini to form a new government. This ushered in the period of fascist dictatorship, characterised by the elimination – including physical elimination – of all opposition groups and by a policy of imperialistic domination which also drew on racist theory and practice.
In 1938 fascism revealed the full violence and ugliness of its racist face, particularly against the Jews. The Race Manifesto was published in July, spelling out the “differences” between the human races in clear terms, and this was soon followed by the establishment of the Department for Demography and Race and the Race Tribunal. Then, in September, the racial laws against the Jews were approved, a clear reflection of the regime’s violently anti-Semitic policy.
In terms of the law, at least, the Roma do not seem to have been included in the regime’s racial policies. For that reason it has always been denied that they were racially discriminated against in Italy. But they were, right from the outset, targeted by policies on law and order. Italy too had a “Gypsy problem” which, as we shall see, took shape from 1926 onwards and became increasingly prominent after the outbreak of war.
In any event, in recent years the archives have displayed much of the theorising on the supposed “Gypsy threat” of the time, including the ideas of leading architects of fascist racial policy, like Guido Landra, head of the Office of Racial Studies at the Ministry of Popular Culture. Landra, like others before and after him, made the issue an unequivocally racial one, not least by reference to appraisals of the physical and moral attributes of the “Gypsy race”.  [Ill. 5]























Ill. 2 (Detail)


The ministerial internment order of September 11, 1940:




”… due to the fact that they sometimes commit serious crimes because of their innate nature and methods of organisation and due to the possibility that among them there are elements capable of carrying out anti-national activities, it is indispensable that all Gypsies are controlled … It is ordered that those of Italian nationality, either confirmed or presumed, who are still in circulation are to be rounded up as quickly as possible and concentrated under vigorous surveillance in a suitable locality in every province … apart from the more dangerous or suspicious elements who are to be sent to the islands or regions…”

   


(excerpted from Boursier 1999, p. 18)




   
   
 

TYPES OF INTERNMENT




Roma prisoners were of course subject to the general rules of internment in Italy, which consisted of two types of procedures: internment in “concentration camps” and compulsory residence in a designated locality (they had to stay within that locality and were not allowed to leave it). The two types of internment were practised almost exclusively in remote areas and small villages, in harsh living conditions where prisoners were subject to an endless number of strict and often cruel rules for their control and supervision. The Ministry of Interior ordered that the camps were to be established in derelict or rarely used buildings, far from strategically important centres and wherever possible in remote areas. Most of the camps were in the regions of central Italy, particularly in the central Apennine valley and the Abruzzi.


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FROM THEORY TO PRACTICE 


   
 



Most of those who have studied the question of the fascist persecution of the Roma have not yet drawn on arch
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Reply #254 - Jan 28th, 2017 at 1:32pm
 
There was Applecider but no Abocide.
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