Finland is running a 2 year trial. Selected people will get the equivalent of $600 a month no strings attached. Even if they get a job they keep it.

The Netherlands is also trying a pilot scheme

You be the judge. All I will say is, whatever govts tell you, there will not be jobs for all. Robotics and AI will see to that.
But if aggregate consumer demand is not maintained there will be even.less employment.

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 8:56am:



Bogarde, the nature of employment will change for sure but we need to get out of this idea that there is some limit on the "number of jobs".

a job is NOT just getting paid by the hour to do work.
it is the value you can create that "creates' the job and the extent of employment is limited only by your creativity.

just as example, a lady who lives near me , resigned from a fairly high powered corporate job as a PA.
she just started growing orchids in a little greenhouse.
she put some in a van and took them to the local sunday market.  the business just boomed. she pulled in 60k last year, working for 4 hours on a sunday morning .

and she told me the soil near me is perfect fro growing "proteas",  the national plant of south africa. she said if someone got into that and marketed them they could easily make millions.

and she had another friend who got into salvaging the flowers from bridal bouquets which normally go into the bin and taking them to nursing homes. now this is just a nice gesture and a good way of contributing but you could turn this into a business as well.

this century will be the century of the creators.

people who are stuck in negativity, who have negative self talk, who dont meditate , who dont read inspirational books...they are shutting down the cretive side of their brains and they will be little cry babies, queued up at cntrelink and just trying to cope, just trying to get thru the day.

why do that.
life will be over in a flash.

pick something you like and go for it.
if you fail, say "oh poo" have a giggle and pick the next thing.

centrelink and big corporations are not your friend and certainly not your mummy.
F*ck them....they are the consolation prize for failures.
think bigger man

freediver wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 12:22pm:



I do believe it cost about $1:20 to hand out $1:00 in welfare, I couldn't think of anything more annoy than for the fkktards in government to steal a heap of taxes from me only to hand it back less the overhead charges hoping Ill be thankful for the free money.

There is no accounting for the inbred intellectual cretinism of the socialist mind.

The fundamental flaw in this entire idiotic idea is that somehow, everyone deserves an income without working. The demise of the british aristocracy was entirely because of this - generations of wasted lives who largely achieved nothing beyond breeding during their entire lives.

Free money becomes a right and a new addiction.

Some Ozpolitic denizens often whine about not getting enough free taxpayer money.

Unforgiven wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 5:54pm:


It IS a right, like it or not.

Plenty of work for these guys:



No coffee breaks, no toilet breaks, flip a switch and they turn up for work . . . .hey c'mon, way to go!

Kat wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 6:20pm:



Bullsh1t!

Just because some pollie said something a few lifetime ago, does not make it a right; it is something that was said once, nothing more.


We have no rights, we have obligations and privileges, welfare is but one of them.

As greece found out, when there is no money the big bucket of 'free' welfare comes to a screaming halt.

Learn to live without someone else supporting you; you will be a lot happier.