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Reply #30 - Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:16pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:10pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:02pm:

Such behaviour is common in the halls of academia. They're preaching to mostly 18-19 year olds in lecture theatres, who don't have the ability to think critically yet and view lecturers as near gods. Lecturers are fully aware of this and that's why they often do it.

It's good to know we have you there, Mistie, to clean up those halls.

Literally!

What and knock the broom out of your hands?

The shock would kill you wouldn't it?

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Reply #31 - Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:18pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:10pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:02pm:

Such behaviour is common in the halls of academia. They're preaching to mostly 18-19 year olds in lecture theatres, who don't have the ability to think critically yet and view lecturers as near gods. Lecturers are fully aware of this and that's why they often do it.

It's good to know we have you there, Mistie, to clean up those halls.

Literally!

What and knock the broom out of your hands?

Not at all.

I'm willing to give Mistie a hand.

Aren't you?

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Reply #32 - Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:18pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:10pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:02pm:

Such behaviour is common in the halls of academia. They're preaching to mostly 18-19 year olds in lecture theatres, who don't have the ability to think critically yet and view lecturers as near gods. Lecturers are fully aware of this and that's why they often do it.

It's good to know we have you there, Mistie, to clean up those halls.

Literally!

What and knock the broom out of your hands?

Not at all.

I'm willing to give Mistie a hand.

Aren't you?

I think your mate token black might need to be relegated to sweeping floors at his Uni until he learns his subject matter in a little more detail.

These are the sort of errors an under-grad would be flogged for, this cretin is supposed to be the lecturer. Admit it, he got his job at the Uni because of his logie and not his degree (which is looking pretty dubious).

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Re: Waleed clueless about voting/politics/most things
Reply #33 - Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:40pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:18pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:10pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:02pm:

Such behaviour is common in the halls of academia. They're preaching to mostly 18-19 year olds in lecture theatres, who don't have the ability to think critically yet and view lecturers as near gods. Lecturers are fully aware of this and that's why they often do it.

It's good to know we have you there, Mistie, to clean up those halls.

Literally!

What and knock the broom out of your hands?

Not at all.

I'm willing to give Mistie a hand.

Aren't you?

I think your mate token black might need to be relegated to sweeping floors at his Uni until he learns his subject matter in a little more detail.

Nothing wrong with mixing with the help.

It builds character.

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Re: Waleed clueless about voting/politics/most things
Reply #34 - Jan 21^st, 2017 at 3:11pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:06pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 1:52pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 1:48pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 1:01pm:

Jezz this fkken clown is supposed to be a lecturer at one of our more prestigious universities and his subject is politics. The cretin does even understand the laws surrounding our compulsory voting system. Grin

Here is the snippet, feel free to read the rest of his horse sh1t opinion if you want, most of it is inane drivel.

"Voters are not compelled to support a candidate or even to cast a valid ballot. They are obliged to turn up."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/opinion/voting-should-be-mandatory.html?smid=...

Here is the truth, something that escapes walled's statements most of the time

Under the Electoral Act, the actual duty of the elector is to attend a polling place, have their name marked off the certified list, receive a ballot paper and take it to an individual voting booth, mark it, fold the ballot paper and place it in the ballot box.

It is not the case, as some people have claimed, that it is only compulsory to attend the polling place and have your name marked off, and this has been upheld by a number of legal decisions:
™ High Court 1926 – Judd v McKeon (1926) 38 CLR 380
™ Supreme Court of Victoria 1970 – Lubcke v Little [1970] VR 807
™ High Court 1971 – Faderson v Bridger (1971) 126 CLR 271
™ Supreme Court of Queensland 1974 – Krosch v Springbell; ex parte Krosch [1974] QdR 107
™ ACT Supreme Court 1981 – O’Brien v Warden (1981) 37 ACTR 13

And some people here think he knows what he is talking about; guess again numpties, you've duped, Grin

You really need to get over your insane hatred of compulsory voting. Voluntary voting is what put Trump in the White House.

They got exactly what they wanted, so I don't see what you think the problem is.

What I want is that the lecturer of politics at Monash University has modicum of understanding of our our compulsory voting works before lecturing another country of its virtues.

BTW, Im off the roll again and those lazy public servants have stopped hassling me; so our compulsory voting is once again, not my problem.

no they didnt. Even with voluntary voting, Clinton got a big majority of the votes. And if you included all the lazy people who didnt vote, Trump woudlnt have even gotten close.

are you sure Americans vote directly for President? My understanding was the electoral college decides the POTUS. Tell me where I am wrong.

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Reply #35 - Jan 21^st, 2017 at 3:19pm

rhino wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 3:11pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:06pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 1:52pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 1:48pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 1:01pm:

Jezz this fkken clown is supposed to be a lecturer at one of our more prestigious universities and his subject is politics. The cretin does even understand the laws surrounding our compulsory voting system. Grin

Here is the snippet, feel free to read the rest of his horse sh1t opinion if you want, most of it is inane drivel.

"Voters are not compelled to support a candidate or even to cast a valid ballot. They are obliged to turn up."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/opinion/voting-should-be-mandatory.html?smid=...

Here is the truth, something that escapes walled's statements most of the time

Under the Electoral Act, the actual duty of the elector is to attend a polling place, have their name marked off the certified list, receive a ballot paper and take it to an individual voting booth, mark it, fold the ballot paper and place it in the ballot box.

It is not the case, as some people have claimed, that it is only compulsory to attend the polling place and have your name marked off, and this has been upheld by a number of legal decisions:
™ High Court 1926 – Judd v McKeon (1926) 38 CLR 380
™ Supreme Court of Victoria 1970 – Lubcke v Little [1970] VR 807
™ High Court 1971 – Faderson v Bridger (1971) 126 CLR 271
™ Supreme Court of Queensland 1974 – Krosch v Springbell; ex parte Krosch [1974] QdR 107
™ ACT Supreme Court 1981 – O’Brien v Warden (1981) 37 ACTR 13

And some people here think he knows what he is talking about; guess again numpties, you've duped, Grin

You really need to get over your insane hatred of compulsory voting. Voluntary voting is what put Trump in the White House.

They got exactly what they wanted, so I don't see what you think the problem is.

What I want is that the lecturer of politics at Monash University has modicum of understanding of our our compulsory voting works before lecturing another country of its virtues.

BTW, Im off the roll again and those lazy public servants have stopped hassling me; so our compulsory voting is once again, not my problem.

no they didnt. Even with voluntary voting, Clinton got a big majority of the votes. And if you included all the lazy people who didnt vote, Trump woudlnt have even gotten close.

are you sure Americans vote directly for President? My understanding was the electoral college decides the POTUS. Tell me where I am wrong.

Well, internet space is limited, so I'll just stick to this particular instance.

You went wrong by assuming he said that "Americans vote directly for their President".

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Reply #36 - Jan 21^st, 2017 at 3:25pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:40pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:18pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:10pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:02pm:

Such behaviour is common in the halls of academia. They're preaching to mostly 18-19 year olds in lecture theatres, who don't have the ability to think critically yet and view lecturers as near gods. Lecturers are fully aware of this and that's why they often do it.

It's good to know we have you there, Mistie, to clean up those halls.

Literally!

What and knock the broom out of your hands?

Not at all.

I'm willing to give Mistie a hand.

Aren't you?

I think your mate token black might need to be relegated to sweeping floors at his Uni until he learns his subject matter in a little more detail.

Nothing wrong with mixing with the help.

It builds character.

He needs knowledge about the subject he teaches others; he is a fkken embarrassment to us all.

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Reply #37 - Jan 21^st, 2017 at 3:30pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 3:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:40pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:18pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:10pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:02pm:

Such behaviour is common in the halls of academia. They're preaching to mostly 18-19 year olds in lecture theatres, who don't have the ability to think critically yet and view lecturers as near gods. Lecturers are fully aware of this and that's why they often do it.

It's good to know we have you there, Mistie, to clean up those halls.

Literally!

What and knock the broom out of your hands?

Not at all.

I'm willing to give Mistie a hand.

Aren't you?

I think your mate token black might need to be relegated to sweeping floors at his Uni until he learns his subject matter in a little more detail.

Nothing wrong with mixing with the help.

It builds character.

He needs knowledge about the subject he teaches others; he is a fkken embarrassment to us all.

All part of his presidential training.

The Republic of Waleedia will be fine under his rule guidance.

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Reply #38 - Jan 21^st, 2017 at 3:39pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:10pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:06pm:

no they didnt. Even with voluntary voting, Clinton got a big majority of the votes. And if you included all the lazy people who didnt vote, Trump woudlnt have even gotten close.

Just because you got the most votes does not mean you get to be in charge; even happens here.

If someone does not want to vote so be it; it what happens in first world democracies all over the planet. You should happy that they exist, even if we aren't one.

When Trumps leads the world to war and/or trade war, remember that voluntary voting is what caused it.

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Reply #39 - Jan 21^st, 2017 at 3:52pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:15pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:06pm:

no they didnt. Even with voluntary voting, Clinton got a big majority of the votes. And if you included all the lazy people who didnt vote, Trump woudlnt have even gotten close.

So do you think the US should have "First Past the Post" voting?

longy, would you prefer the Electoral College be scrapped and just the "popular" vote retained? That's the only way Clinton could have won

If the US changed to First Past the Post voting, would you be happy with that? There's no chance of it happening but there's nothing stopping you from suggesting it as a viable alternative ... but you'd have to convince 50 States, the States take precedence over the Fed, you wouldn't think it these days, but they do indeed. There's no chance of compulsory voting either

So what do you think about the voting system in the US? it stinks in your opinion and needs changing, or is it Ok? How would you ensure candidates who get the most "popular" votes, can win ?

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Reply #40 - Jan 21^st, 2017 at 4:03pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 3:39pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:10pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:06pm:

no they didnt. Even with voluntary voting, Clinton got a big majority of the votes. And if you included all the lazy people who didnt vote, Trump woudlnt have even gotten close.

Just because you got the most votes does not mean you get to be in charge; even happens here.

If someone does not want to vote so be it; it what happens in first world democracies all over the planet. You should happy that they exist, even if we aren't one.

When Trumps leads the world to war and/or trade war, remember that voluntary voting is what caused it.

Compulsory voting is a wank; there is NO evidence that any of our elections would turn out any different if we were a first world democracy and neither would the US if they decided to flush their right to vote down the toilet.

We are alone, everyone else is right we are wrong.

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Reply #41 - Jan 21^st, 2017 at 4:06pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 3:39pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:10pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:06pm:

no they didnt. Even with voluntary voting, Clinton got a big majority of the votes. And if you included all the lazy people who didnt vote, Trump woudlnt have even gotten close.

Just because you got the most votes does not mean you get to be in charge; even happens here.

If someone does not want to vote so be it; it what happens in first world democracies all over the planet. You should happy that they exist, even if we aren't one.

When Trumps leads the world to war and/or trade war, remember that voluntary voting is what caused it.

You want to explain yet why you think americans vote directly for President?

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Reply #43 - Jan 21^st, 2017 at 4:26pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 3:52pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:15pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:06pm:

no they didnt. Even with voluntary voting, Clinton got a big majority of the votes. And if you included all the lazy people who didnt vote, Trump woudlnt have even gotten close.

So do you think the US should have "First Past the Post" voting?

longy, would you prefer the Electoral College be scrapped and just the "popular" vote retained? That's the only way Clinton could have won

If the US changed to First Past the Post voting, would you be happy with that? There's no chance of it happening but there's nothing stopping you from suggesting it as a viable alternative ... but you'd have to convince 50 States, the States take precedence over the Fed, you wouldn't think it these days, but they do indeed. There's no chance of compulsory voting either

So what do you think about the voting system in the US? it stinks in your opinion and needs changing, or is it Ok? How would you ensure candidates who get the most "popular" votes, can win ?

A) the US already has first-past the post voting.
B) when you ask the entire country to vote for just two positions Pres and VP, it doesnt seem to make sense to use a college system

and yes, the US electoral system is an abomination which is so fragmented and so open to abuse that it is a disaster. what did you think of North Carolina which passed a voter ID law specifically designed to disenfranchise blacks and student. They literally researched ID mainly used by these groups and then banned them. You think that this is even remotely fair? Or how about the recent election where a Democrat won the governors mansion and the REpublican congress literally voted to strip the governor of most of his powers.

THIS is the USA electoral system

This is the system where elections are run by local committees comprised of members of political parties which can and have, literally banned people from auditing the votes.

REmember 2000? the supreme court with a majority of republican appointees voted to HALT A RECOUNT because GWB was in front.

so does it stink? I can think of some third-world cesspools with a more open and less corrupt system. Did Trump ACTUALLY win? We will never know since recounts have to be paid for by individuals and even then, can be stopped by judges who owe allegiance to politics above democracy.

STINKS AND THEN SOME

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Reply #44 - Jan 21^st, 2017 at 5:04pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 1:01pm:

Jezz this fkken clown is supposed to be a lecturer at one of our more prestigious universities and his subject is politics. The cretin does even understand the laws surrounding our compulsory voting system. Grin

Here is the snippet, feel free to read the rest of his horse sh1t opinion if you want, most of it is inane drivel.

"Voters are not compelled to support a candidate or even to cast a valid ballot. They are obliged to turn up."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/opinion/voting-should-be-mandatory.html?smid=...

Here is the truth, something that escapes walled's statements most of the time

Under the Electoral Act, the actual duty of the elector is to attend a polling place, have their name marked off the certified list, receive a ballot paper and take it to an individual voting booth, mark it, fold the ballot paper and place it in the ballot box.

It is not the case, as some people have claimed, that it is only compulsory to attend the polling place and have your name marked off, and this has been upheld by a number of legal decisions:
™ High Court 1926 – Judd v McKeon (1926) 38 CLR 380
™ Supreme Court of Victoria 1970 – Lubcke v Little [1970] VR 807
™ High Court 1971 – Faderson v Bridger (1971) 126 CLR 271
™ Supreme Court of Queensland 1974 – Krosch v Springbell; ex parte Krosch [1974] QdR 107
™ ACT Supreme Court 1981 – O’Brien v Warden (1981) 37 ACTR 13

And some people here think he knows what he is talking about; guess again numpties, you've duped, Grin

Tell me, Bigol64, does anybody actually make sure that you cast a vote, when you vote? Roll Eyes

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