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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 21628 A cat with a view	Re: Top Psychotherapist Releases Terrifying Diagnosis Reply #15 - Jan 28^th, 2017 at 7:02pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 6:45pm: Quote: Anti-social behavior Sadism Aggressiveness Paranoia Grandiosity Entitled Regressed Manipulative Destructive Egocentric Use of projection Lack of conscience Narcissistic Is this thread about Kevin Rudd? LOL Very good bobby. hehe
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35293 Gender:	Re: Top Psychotherapist Releases Terrifying Diagnosis Reply #16 - Jan 28^th, 2017 at 7:02pm Gordon wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 6:56pm: Is it ethical for a Psychotherapist to make and share a diagnosis about someone without their consent? Why not? He didn't breach confidentiality.
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Reply #17 - Jan 28^th, 2017 at 7:04pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 6:42pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 6:37pm:

Correct (if, by 'anti-Christ', you mean Trump's personality conforms to the literary characterisation of anti-Christ).

In western literature (at least), evil personified has nearly always been characterised as a malignant narcissist whose personality is afflicted by all of the above traits but are usually disguised (by the 'successful' malignant narcissist) to varying degrees by charm, wit and intelligence...

American past presidents have ranged from crooks, womanisers to warmongers. When has American politics never had scumbags in power North? Even Obama sent young men to very dodgy wars and has blood on his hands. I suppose if they say things nicely and with a smile they can fart and it smells like roses hey? Be upfront and you're the anti-Christ??? Roll Eyes

There have been some bad ones... Nixon, of course, and arguably, Johnson (even if he did just stumble into the Vietnam war). Even Eisenhower doesn't 'get off the hook' as a presidential warmonger (even if he did warn us all of the Military-Industrial-complex)...

But arguably no President has revealed all aspects of a serious personality disorder from day one of his presidency, as Trump... And none in living memory at least, have been as self-revealing of them as Trump - And not because he's honest about his faults, but because he's either blithely unaware of them or is not capable of being concerned about them...

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Reply #18 - Jan 28^th, 2017 at 7:08pm

mothra wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 7:02pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 6:56pm:

Is it ethical for a Psychotherapist to make and share a diagnosis about someone without their consent?

Why not? He didn't breach confidentiality.

It's all a load of baloney anyway.
Trump is an actor and all public people have their schtick. I've met loads of celebs and you can just never tell what people are actually like from their public persona.

Plus, if it's true, even psychopaths can make very effective leaders.

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Reply #19 - Jan 28^th, 2017 at 7:09pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 6:48pm:

Agnes wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 6:45pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 6:29pm:

Agnes wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 6:27pm:

It has been clear for quite a while that Trump is unhinged.. his mental instability ignorance and limited understanding of what it takes to do his job is in of itself very worrying. I don't think he will last long...he will be removed via an impeachment process. They have to be keeping a close watch on this f-cking menace- he is mentally insane.

How about we give him a go first agnes?

From what I have seen so far is quite enough thank you very much Mr Hammer.

seeing that he's only been in power a couple of days he hasn't really done anything yet.

I guess if you don't have a uterus you would say that Mr Hammer.

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Reply #20 - Jan 28^th, 2017 at 7:10pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 7:04pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 6:42pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 6:37pm:

Correct (if, by 'anti-Christ', you mean Trump's personality conforms to the literary characterisation of anti-Christ).

In western literature (at least), evil personified has nearly always been characterised as a malignant narcissist whose personality is afflicted by all of the above traits but are usually disguised (by the 'successful' malignant narcissist) to varying degrees by charm, wit and intelligence...

American past presidents have ranged from crooks, womanisers to warmongers. When has American politics never had scumbags in power North? Even Obama sent young men to very dodgy wars and has blood on his hands. I suppose if they say things nicely and with a smile they can fart and it smells like roses hey? Be upfront and you're the anti-Christ??? Roll Eyes

There have been some bad ones... Nixon, of course, and arguably, Johnson (even if he did just stumble into the Vietnam war). Even Eisenhower doesn't 'get off the hook' as a presidential warmonger (even if he did warn us all of the Military-Industrial-complex)...

But arguably no President has revealed all aspects of a serious personality disorder from day one of his presidency, as Trump... And none in living memory at least, have been as self-revealing of them as Trump - And not because he's honest about his faults, but because he's either blithely unaware of them or is not capable of being concerned about them...

Clinton is the worst in my lifetime. Never have a seen a person lie so badly to the public. It was only the DNA test on his baby batter that got him busted otherwise he would have got away with it. JFK was also a bad one. He was having it off with women right left and centre. He even had it off with a woman who was an East German spy. He was the ultimate in security risks.

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Reply #21 - Jan 28^th, 2017 at 7:12pm

Agnes wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 7:09pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 6:48pm:

Agnes wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 6:45pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 6:29pm:

Agnes wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 6:27pm:

It has been clear for quite a while that Trump is unhinged.. his mental instability ignorance and limited understanding of what it takes to do his job is in of itself very worrying. I don't think he will last long...he will be removed via an impeachment process. They have to be keeping a close watch on this f-cking menace- he is mentally insane.

How about we give him a go first agnes?

From what I have seen so far is quite enough thank you very much Mr Hammer.

seeing that he's only been in power a couple of days he hasn't really done anything yet.

I guess if you don't have a uterus you would say that Mr Hammer.

Show me one male who hasn't said in thing like that in private. Most women have said naughty things like that also.

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Reply #22 - Jan 28^th, 2017 at 7:12pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 7:10pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 7:04pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 6:42pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 6:37pm:

Correct (if, by 'anti-Christ', you mean Trump's personality conforms to the literary characterisation of anti-Christ).

In western literature (at least), evil personified has nearly always been characterised as a malignant narcissist whose personality is afflicted by all of the above traits but are usually disguised (by the 'successful' malignant narcissist) to varying degrees by charm, wit and intelligence...

American past presidents have ranged from crooks, womanisers to warmongers. When has American politics never had scumbags in power North? Even Obama sent young men to very dodgy wars and has blood on his hands. I suppose if they say things nicely and with a smile they can fart and it smells like roses hey? Be upfront and you're the anti-Christ??? Roll Eyes

There have been some bad ones... Nixon, of course, and arguably, Johnson (even if he did just stumble into the Vietnam war). Even Eisenhower doesn't 'get off the hook' as a presidential warmonger (even if he did warn us all of the Military-Industrial-complex)...

But arguably no President has revealed all aspects of a serious personality disorder from day one of his presidency, as Trump... And none in living memory at least, have been as self-revealing of them as Trump - And not because he's honest about his faults, but because he's either blithely unaware of them or is not capable of being concerned about them...

Clinton is the worst in my lifetime. Never have a seen a person lie so badly to the public. It was only the DNA test on his baby batter that got him busted otherwise he would have got away with it. JFK was also a bad one. He was having it off with women right left and centre. He even had it off with a woman who was an East German spy. He was the ultimate in security risks.

Could you imagine how many women/interns Clinton would have tried it on with? But he's smiling charming Bill...he gets a pass.

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Reply #23 - Jan 28^th, 2017 at 7:14pm

Gordon wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 7:12pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 7:10pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 7:04pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 6:42pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 6:37pm:

Correct (if, by 'anti-Christ', you mean Trump's personality conforms to the literary characterisation of anti-Christ).

In western literature (at least), evil personified has nearly always been characterised as a malignant narcissist whose personality is afflicted by all of the above traits but are usually disguised (by the 'successful' malignant narcissist) to varying degrees by charm, wit and intelligence...

American past presidents have ranged from crooks, womanisers to warmongers. When has American politics never had scumbags in power North? Even Obama sent young men to very dodgy wars and has blood on his hands. I suppose if they say things nicely and with a smile they can fart and it smells like roses hey? Be upfront and you're the anti-Christ??? Roll Eyes

There have been some bad ones... Nixon, of course, and arguably, Johnson (even if he did just stumble into the Vietnam war). Even Eisenhower doesn't 'get off the hook' as a presidential warmonger (even if he did warn us all of the Military-Industrial-complex)...

But arguably no President has revealed all aspects of a serious personality disorder from day one of his presidency, as Trump... And none in living memory at least, have been as self-revealing of them as Trump - And not because he's honest about his faults, but because he's either blithely unaware of them or is not capable of being concerned about them...

Clinton is the worst in my lifetime. Never have a seen a person lie so badly to the public. It was only the DNA test on his baby batter that got him busted otherwise he would have got away with it. JFK was also a bad one. He was having it off with women right left and centre. He even had it off with a woman who was an East German spy. He was the ultimate in security risks.

Could you imagine how many women/interns Clinton would have tried it on with? But he's smiling charming Bill...he gets a pass.

I wouldn't be surprised if he has AIDS and gave it to Hillary. That's probably why Hillary is crook all of the time. Lips Sealed

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Reply #24 - Jan 28^th, 2017 at 7:20pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 7:10pm:

Clinton is the worst in my lifetime. Never have a seen a person lie so badly to the public. It was only the DNA test on his baby batter that got him busted otherwise he would have got away with it. JFK was also a bad one. He was having it off with women right left and centre. He even had it off with a woman who was an East German spy. He was the ultimate in security risks.

And let's not forget Harding, FDR and Johnson in the womanising stakes...

Then there's Lincoln, who was rumoured to have had a homosexual affair and Buchanan who was considered to be likely exclusively homosexual...

But let's be honest, philandering is hardly a serious personality flaw and no one really thinks the state is in danger because a leader had an affair or got a headjob...

If Americans were not so hypocritically prudish about sex, these facts about past presidents' sex lives would be almost unknown footnotes in history.

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Reply #25 - Jan 28^th, 2017 at 7:28pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 7:20pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 7:10pm:

Clinton is the worst in my lifetime. Never have a seen a person lie so badly to the public. It was only the DNA test on his baby batter that got him busted otherwise he would have got away with it. JFK was also a bad one. He was having it off with women right left and centre. He even had it off with a woman who was an East German spy. He was the ultimate in security risks.

And let's not forget Harding, FDR and Johnson in the womanising stakes...

Then there's Lincoln, who was rumoured to have had a homosexual affair and Buchanan who was considered to be likely exclusively homosexual...

But let's be honest, philandering is hardly a serious personality flaw and no one really thinks the state is in danger because a leader had an affair or got a headjob...

If Americans were not so hypocritically prudish about sex, these facts about past presidents' sex lives would be almost unknown footnotes in history.

Isn't adultery one of the seven deadly sins. A leader should be somebody to aspire to.

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Reply #26 - Jan 28^th, 2017 at 7:30pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 7:12pm:

Agnes wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 7:09pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 6:48pm:

Agnes wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 6:45pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 6:29pm:

Agnes wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 6:27pm:

It has been clear for quite a while that Trump is unhinged.. his mental instability ignorance and limited understanding of what it takes to do his job is in of itself very worrying. I don't think he will last long...he will be removed via an impeachment process. They have to be keeping a close watch on this f-cking menace- he is mentally insane.

How about we give him a go first agnes?

From what I have seen so far is quite enough thank you very much Mr Hammer.

seeing that he's only been in power a couple of days he hasn't really done anything yet.

I guess if you don't have a uterus you would say that Mr Hammer.

Show me one male who hasn't said in thing like that in private. Most women have said naughty things like that also.

You mean denying women the right to have an abortion ie: trying to control womens fertility.?

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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Top Psychotherapist Releases Terrifying Diagnosis Reply #27 - Jan 28^th, 2017 at 7:31pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 7:28pm: Isn't adultery one of the seven deadly sins. A leader should be somebody to aspire to. Do you aspire to be a 'Barack Obama' only because he never had an extra-marital affair?
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Reply #28 - Jan 28^th, 2017 at 7:32pm

Agnes wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 7:30pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 7:12pm:

Agnes wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 7:09pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 6:48pm:

Agnes wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 6:45pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 6:29pm:

Agnes wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 6:27pm:

It has been clear for quite a while that Trump is unhinged.. his mental instability ignorance and limited understanding of what it takes to do his job is in of itself very worrying. I don't think he will last long...he will be removed via an impeachment process. They have to be keeping a close watch on this f-cking menace- he is mentally insane.

How about we give him a go first agnes?

From what I have seen so far is quite enough thank you very much Mr Hammer.

seeing that he's only been in power a couple of days he hasn't really done anything yet.

I guess if you don't have a uterus you would say that Mr Hammer.

Show me one male who hasn't said in thing like that in private. Most women have said naughty things like that also.

You mean denying women the right to have an abortion ie: trying to control womens fertility.?

A woman can do with her body as she pleases as far as I'm concerned.

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Reply #29 - Jan 28^th, 2017 at 7:36pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 7:31pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 7:28pm:

Isn't adultery one of the seven deadly sins. A leader should be somebody to aspire to.

Do you aspire to be a 'Barack Obama' only because he never had an extra-marital affair?

No. He was a poor leader. That's why I don't aspire to be him. He left a country in a mess and looked after other people instead of his own people too many times.

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