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Trump to defeat ISIS
Jan 29^th, 2017 at 11:23am

Looks like the bombing & waterboarding will start soon:

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/28/politics/donald-trump-executive-actions/index....

Plan to defeat ISIS

The text of the NSC memorandum as provided by the White House established the organization of Trump's National Security Council, providing specific roles for his national security adviser Michael Flynn and homeland security adviser Tom Bossert.
The action on ISIS outlined specific requirements of the plan Trump wants, including a "comprehensive strategy," recommended changes to the rules of engagements and use of force as well as the "identification of new coalition partners."

The nation's top military advisers had been readying a plan for Trump,

who met with the Joint Chiefs and Secretary of Defense James Mattis at the Pentagon Friday. Mattis and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Joseph Dunford have been reviewing potential options for dealing with the terrorist group, and the action signed Saturday calls for Mattis to coordinate with Dunford, the director of national intelligence and other Cabinet officials to shape the plan.
After signing the action on ISIS, Trump said, "I think it's going to be very successful."
"That's big stuff," he added.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 103244 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Trump to defeat ISIS Reply #1 - Jan 29^th, 2017 at 11:25am Looks like he will be allies with Russia just like WW2 in the same way the Nazis were defeated.
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Trump to defeat ISIS Reply #2 - Jan 29^th, 2017 at 11:31am Bobby. wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 11:25am: Looks like he will be allies with Russia just like WW2 in the same way the Nazis were defeated. Are they going to carpet bomb Syrian cities?
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20506 Gordon Gender:	Re: Trump to defeat ISIS Reply #3 - Jan 29^th, 2017 at 11:47am ISIS can't be defeated because it's a mindset. The current bunch of ISIS can be removed form the chess board but more will take their place. Read 'Looming tower' by Lawrence Wright.
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Reply #4 - Jan 29^th, 2017 at 11:48am

Defeating ISIS is a concept open to interpretation. What does defeat look like? Capture their territory and leaders? ISIS is not separate from the rest of Islam. The factions and sects may not like each other, but the one thing that unites them is their hatred of the infidel. If Trump is going to buy into the good muzlim/ bad muzlim media mythology, his policy will be effectively the same as the EU. And any John Wayne stunt with American troops will be doomed to failure.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136546 Gender:	Re: Trump to defeat ISIS Reply #5 - Jan 29^th, 2017 at 11:49am Gordon wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 11:47am: ISIS can't be defeated because it's a mindset. Exactly. The Trumptards don't have a brain between them, though. They just don't get it. Trump will kill millions of innocent people, and ISIS will still prevail.
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Marla Gold Member Offline Weed is my Jesus Posts: 13494 Colorado Gender:	Re: Trump to defeat ISIS Reply #6 - Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:07pm Gordon wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 11:47am: ISIS can't be defeated because it's a mindset. Exactly. You cannot bomb an ideology
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20506 Gordon Gender:	Re: Trump to defeat ISIS Reply #7 - Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:12pm Marla wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:07pm: Gordon wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 11:47am: ISIS can't be defeated because it's a mindset. Exactly. You cannot bomb an ideology You can bomb the people who hold the ideology.
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Trump to defeat ISIS Reply #8 - Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:12pm How do you defeat an enemy who has no fear of death for himself or his children?
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Reply #9 - Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:18pm

Gordon wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:12pm:

Marla wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:07pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 11:47am:

ISIS can't be defeated because it's a mindset.

Exactly. You cannot bomb an ideology

You can bomb the people who hold the ideology.

Yeah, and a few million innocent civilians while you're at it.

Trump doesn't want to destroy ISIS, tweety.

With the Mexicans gone, who's he gonna use to scare the public with?

He can't control US citizens if they aren't frightened of something.

It's all talk (and a little bit of collateral damage); nothing else.

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Frank Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 44826 Gender:	Re: Trump to defeat ISIS Reply #10 - Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:33pm Marla wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:07pm: Gordon wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 11:47am: ISIS can't be defeated because it's a mindset. Exactly. You cannot bomb an ideology Of course you can. You bomb the people who adhere to it.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136546 Gender:	Re: Trump to defeat ISIS Reply #11 - Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:35pm Frank wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:33pm: Marla wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:07pm: Gordon wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 11:47am: ISIS can't be defeated because it's a mindset. Exactly. You cannot bomb an ideology Of course you can. You bomb the people who adhere to it. People aren't an ideology, numbskull.
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Reply #12 - Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:39pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:18pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:12pm:

Marla wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:07pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 11:47am:

ISIS can't be defeated because it's a mindset.

Exactly. You cannot bomb an ideology

You can bomb the people who hold the ideology.

Yeah, and a few million innocent civilians while you're at it.

Trump doesn't want to destroy ISIS, tweety.

With the Mexicans gone, who's he gonna use to scare the public with?

He can't control US citizens if they aren't frightened of something.

It's all talk (and a little bit of collateral damage); nothing else.

So do you suggest we sit back and do nothing numptoid?

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Re: Trump to defeat ISIS
Reply #13 - Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:18pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:12pm:

Marla wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:07pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 11:47am:

ISIS can't be defeated because it's a mindset.

Exactly. You cannot bomb an ideology

You can bomb the people who hold the ideology.

Yeah, and a few million innocent civilians while you're at it.

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I was suggesting only the radical jihadists should be bombed but you seem to be suggesting a few million innocent civilians should also be included? Your position on Islam has changed recently.

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Re: Trump to defeat ISIS
Reply #14 - Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:49pm

Gordon wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:18pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:12pm:

Marla wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:07pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 11:47am:

ISIS can't be defeated because it's a mindset.

Exactly. You cannot bomb an ideology

You can bomb the people who hold the ideology.

Yeah, and a few million innocent civilians while you're at it.

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I was suggesting only the radical jihadists should be bombed ...

You can suggest whatevere you like, however, the truth of the matter is innocent civilians will be killed.

Millions of them.

This doesn't seem to concern you at all, though.

Why am I not surprised? Roll Eyes

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