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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136594 Gender:	Re: Dick Cheney 'Against Everything We Stand For' Reply #15 - Jan 30^th, 2017 at 11:36am Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 30^th, 2017 at 10:35am: Cheney is a mass murderer and has no moral authority on anything. That's the point: even Cheney is against Trump.
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Fuzzball Gold Member Offline Posts: 6381 Australia Gender:	Re: Dick Cheney 'Against Everything We Stand For' Reply #16 - Jan 30^th, 2017 at 11:52am In 2011, Nobama banned Iraqis from entering USA for SIX MONTHS, Nobody said a word.
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Postmodern Trendoid III Gold Member Offline Posts: 10259 Gender:	Re: Dick Cheney 'Against Everything We Stand For' Reply #17 - Jan 30^th, 2017 at 12:01pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 30^th, 2017 at 11:36am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 30^th, 2017 at 10:35am: Cheney is a mass murderer and has no moral authority on anything. That's the point: even Cheney is against Trump. Cheney's view has as much authority as yours: zilch.
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Reply #18 - Jan 30^th, 2017 at 12:05pm

Fuzzball wrote on Jan 30^th, 2017 at 11:52am:

In 2011, Nobama banned Iraqis from entering USA for SIX MONTHS, Nobody said a word.

Knew this one would come up more sooner than later... And, yes, people did say things...

First, Obama responded to an actual threat - the discovery that two Iraqi refugees has been implicated in bomb-making in Iraq that had targeted U.S. troops. Under congressional pressure, officials decided to reexamine all previous refugees and also impose new screening procedures, which led to a slowdown in processing new applications. Trump, by contrast, issued his executive order without any known triggering threat.

Second, Obama did not announce there was a ban on visa applications. In fact, as seen in Napolitano's answer to Collins, administration officials danced around that question. There was certainly a lot of news reporting that visa applications had been slowed to a trickle. But the Obama administration never said it was their policy to halt all applications. Even so, the delays did not go unnoticed, so there was a lot of critical news reporting at the time about the angst of Iraqis waiting for approval.

Third, Obama's policy did not prevent all citizens of that country, including green-card holders, from traveling the United States. Trump's policy is much more sweeping.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-trump-refugee-policy-...

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