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if this wasnt so sad it would be funny.
Feb 1st, 2017 at 9:04pm
 
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/qld-may-consider-tougher-bail-law...

Queensland got it wrong AGAIN.


ANTI-violence campaigners have called for an overhaul of Queensland’s bail laws after the tragic slaying of Gold Coast woman Theresa Bradford at the hands of her husband.

Ms Bradford, 40, was stabbed to death by her estranged husband David in front of her children at her home on the northern suburbs of the Gold Coast early on Tuesday.

The deadly incident came just two weeks after David Bradford was granted bail in a specialist domestic violence court on charges stemming from an assault on his wife last November.
Gold Coast Centre Against Sexual Violence director Di McLeod said Queensland’s legal system isn’t providing adequate protection to victims of domestic violence.

“Clearly things need to change there,” Ms McLeod told reporters.

“There’s a presumption against the granting of bail where there’s a history or threat of domestic violence in most Australian jurisdictions. There’s not in Queensland.

“There’s no specific provisions in the bail act that cater specifically for domestic violence cases.” Ms Bradford’s death is the fifth case of a woman allegedly being murdered by her partner on the Gold Coast in 16 months.

[highlight]Ms McLeod says history shows domestic violence offenders regularly breach court- imposed conditions and reoffend.[
/highlight]


there are two moments in this story that either makes me want to scream or laugh out loud..

His LAWYER said this... with a straight face..

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Bradford’s lawyer Mark Donnelly told the Courier-Mail there were “no indications whatsoever that he would do what he did”.

He had accepted the relationship had irretrievably broken down and was accepting of the very restrictive bail conditions that had been imposed, including having no contact with his partner,” Mr Donnelly, of Krosen and Co. Lawyers, said.



how could you get it so WRONG Mr Donnelly?... Angry



next.

Quote:
Friends of Ms Bradford said she was living in terror after her husband was bailed just two weeks before the killing.

Mr Bradford, 52, was released on bail by a specialist domestic violence magistrate[/highlight], despite his estranged wife telling police he knocked her unconscious in a violent attack on November 28 last year.

Two weeks after the magistrate released the former train driver, despite the strong objections of police, he broke into his wife Teresa’s home and stabbed her to death before taking his own life.

The couple’s four children were home at the time and fled to neighbours for help.

Domestic violence workers say 40-year-old Teresa was let down by a system that should have protected her.

Friends of Mrs Bradford told the Gold Coast Bulletin she was “terrified” when her husband was released.



what is the point of a victim report or a police report

if even SPECIALIST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE MAGISTRATES take absolutely no notice of them...


what does a victim of DV have to do to get a known violent person put away???>...


be dead I guess.





not only are both parents dead   but 4 children have one hell of a lot to live with for the rest of their days..


and I guess the magistrate can go home and sleep peacefully....




yes the magistrate could have listened to the Police....and who knows even put the victims wellbeing first for a change..

5 dead in 16 months.....how many other living in cold fear.. we will never know ..

unless they are killed then we find out..
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Re: if this wasnt so sad it would be funny.
Reply #1 - Feb 1st, 2017 at 9:12pm
 

71 in the last 12 months.

Yet, Sprinty and his band of Islamophobic cock suckers think terrorists are the problem.

Why does Sprint condone domestic violence?

Is Sprinty a wife basher?

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Reply #2 - Feb 1st, 2017 at 9:18pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 9:12pm:
71 in the last 12 months.

Yet, Sprinty and his band of Islamophobic cock suckers think terrorists are the problem.

Why does Sprint condone domestic violence?

Is Sprinty a wife basher?



get off the drink groggy...

if you won't leave the forum like you said that you would.. then the administrators need to throw your ass off...

disgusting creep trying to point score in a thread like this??

seek help..
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Re: if this wasnt so sad it would be funny.
Reply #3 - Feb 1st, 2017 at 9:20pm
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 9:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 9:12pm:
71 in the last 12 months.

Yet, Sprinty and his band of Islamophobic cock suckers think terrorists are the problem.

Why does Sprint condone domestic violence?

Is Sprinty a wife basher?



get off the drink groggy...

if you won't leave the forum like you said that you would.. then the administrators need to throw your ass off...

disgusting creep trying to point score in a thread like this??

seek help..


Are you a wife basher too?

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Reply #4 - Feb 1st, 2017 at 9:42pm
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 9:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 9:12pm:
71 in the last 12 months.

Yet, Sprinty and his band of Islamophobic cock suckers think terrorists are the problem.

Why does Sprint condone domestic violence?

Is Sprinty a wife basher?



get off the drink groggy...

if you won't leave the forum like you said that you would.. then the administrators need to throw your ass off...

disgusting creep trying to point score in a thread like this??

seek help..

  You have  threatened women with violence in this forum .. the hypocrisy.


Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley
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Reply #5 - Feb 1st, 2017 at 9:43pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 9:20pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 9:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 9:12pm:
71 in the last 12 months.

Yet, Sprinty and his band of Islamophobic cock suckers think terrorists are the problem.

Why does Sprint condone domestic violence?

Is Sprinty a wife basher?



get off the drink groggy...

if you won't leave the forum like you said that you would.. then the administrators need to throw your ass off...

disgusting creep trying to point score in a thread like this??

seek help..


Are you a wife basher too?




Has to make you wonder I think..
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Reply #6 - Feb 1st, 2017 at 9:45pm
 
Agnes wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 9:42pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 9:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 9:12pm:
71 in the last 12 months.

Yet, Sprinty and his band of Islamophobic cock suckers think terrorists are the problem.

Why does Sprint condone domestic violence?

Is Sprinty a wife basher?



get off the drink groggy...

if you won't leave the forum like you said that you would.. then the administrators need to throw your ass off...

disgusting creep trying to point score in a thread like this??

seek help..

  You have  threatened women with violence in this forum .. the hypocrisy.



One to keep an eye on.


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Indeed.

He's potentially a very violent person.
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Reply #7 - Feb 1st, 2017 at 9:46pm
 
greg is the one taking this awful story off topic...as he is want to do..not mechanic..

stick to the topic.. or go somewhere else..
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Reply #8 - Feb 1st, 2017 at 9:47pm
 
cods wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 9:46pm:
greg is the one taking this awful story off topic...


Really?

How so?

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Reply #9 - Feb 1st, 2017 at 9:53pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 9:47pm:
cods wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 9:46pm:
greg is the one taking this awful story off topic...


Really?

How so?




first post sunshine.. nothing about the OP as usual...

there are plenty of muslim threads for you to vent your childish baiting on greg..

I would just like some serious talking about a very very serious problem in this country that is more than out of control...I am sick of talking <Muslims...to be honest..

so please take your hobbyhorse  somewhere else.. thank you
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Reply #10 - Feb 1st, 2017 at 11:03pm
 
'her' children?  You mean he had nothing to do with them or their birth or anything else?  FFS....

No wonder he over-reacted and struck out...... rob a man of his most precious and he WILL seek to defend house and home and hearth.....  TS is wrong with you people?

I've told you all before - while ever governments fly in the face of human nature - in this case the genetically installed burden on a man to protect his Family against all enemies (whether they be domestic or foreign), and tell him that not only will he have nothing to do with that family any more, but will still pay for it and be punished with violence if he seeks to continue to be part of it - you are asking for trouble.

If the woman is destroying that Family (as he sees it), that man will defend it, and sometimes that means that woman has to go sine she is the one destroying that Family....  sorry 'bout that.

Now - I don't justify or defend his actions - but, as usual, I am the lone voice asking for a more reasoned and reasonable approach than the immediate violence of the state to secure advantage for the destroyer of family (as he undoubtedly sees it), which violence by the state will engender violence - NOT SOLVE IT!

I think this entire discussion of 'domestic violence' needs to be looked at in the real light of human characteristics and ingrained behaviour.

How many times must I tell you... stop the violence against men and the violence will ease.
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Reply #11 - Feb 1st, 2017 at 11:09pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 9:12pm:
71 in the last 12 months.

Yet, Sprinty and his band of Islamophobic cock suckers think terrorists are the problem.

Why does Sprint condone domestic violence?

Is Sprinty a wife basher?




Seeking to outline the REAL parameters of Violence in no way indicates that the person doing so is violent by nature.   To the contrary - it is more likely that, as a thinking human being, they have been subjected to violence and have rejected it, rather than 'playing out' the violence that has been imposed on them - as so very many do.

Look it up.... damaged people have this terrible tendency to assume the role of the one who has damaged them, and then perpetrate the very same things that have caused the damage....... it's a psychological twist on the old saying that violence begets violence, and it is a hallmark of the dysfunctional family.
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[quote author=The_Grappler link=1485947081/10#10 date=1485954206]'her' children?  You mean he had nothing to do with them or their birth or anything else?  FFS....

No wonder he over-reacted and struck out...... rob a man of his most precious and he WILL seek to defend house and home and hearth.....  TS is wrong with you people?

I've told you all before - while ever governments fly in the face of human nature - in this case the genetically installed burden on a man to protect his Family against all enemies (whether they be domestic or foreign), and tell him that not only will he have nothing to do with that family any more, but will still pay for it and be punished with violence if he seeks to continue to be part of it - you are asking for trouble.

If the woman is destroying that Family (as he sees it), that man will defend it, and sometimes that means that woman has to go sine she is the one destroying that Family....  sorry 'bout that.

SO YOU KNOW MORE ABOUT THEIR LIVES THAN WE READ IN THE MEDIA..


SHE DESTROYED THE FAMILY UNIT
......got it!


Now - I don't justify or defend his actions - but, as usual, I am the lone voice asking for a more reasoned and reasonable approach than the immediate violence of the state to secure advantage for the destroyer of family (as he undoubtedly sees it), which violence by the state will engender violence - NOT SOLVE IT!

LIKE IT OR NOT... IT IS THE WOMEN WHOS LIFE HAD BEEN TAKEN BY A MAN ...NO ONE IS MAKING THAT UP..






I think this entire discussion of 'domestic violence' needs to be looked at in the real light of human characteristics and ingrained behaviour.

How many times must I tell you... stop the violence against men and the violence will ease.[/quote]

SO YOU KNOW SHE ABUSED HIM...AND WAS VIOLENT TO HIM...WHERE DID YOU GET THAT INFO FROM GRAP?



if you dont mind this is about the LAW IN QLD...how it does not protect anyone..

5 women have been killed in 16 months on the Gold Coast

perhaps you can tell us how many men have died in that time.




you last comment is basically saying.. these women deserved to be killed....its all their fault., Angry Angry
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Reply #13 - Feb 2nd, 2017 at 6:00am
 
cods wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 9:46pm:
greg is the one taking this awful story off topic...as he is want to do..not mechanic..

stick to the topic.. or go somewhere else..


Hear hear!

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Reply #14 - Feb 2nd, 2017 at 6:02am
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 9:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 9:12pm:
71 in the last 12 months.

Yet, Sprinty and his band of Islamophobic cock suckers think terrorists are the problem.

Why does Sprint condone domestic violence?

Is Sprinty a wife basher?



get off the drink groggy...

if you won't leave the forum like you said that you would.. then the administrators need to throw your ass off...

disgusting creep trying to point score in a thread like this??

seek help..


Don't worry.....when Greg comes online. I'll tell him off!

BIG TIME!  Angry
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