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Re: Will Trump be deemed unfit for office?
Reply #30 - Feb 8^th, 2017 at 12:18pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 10:31am:

Yadda wrote on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 10:23am:

People who visit this forum will read our posts, and they will weigh the evidence, and they will make a judgement about what we both have presented here.

Most people don't read your posts, Yadda.

I generally skip right past. I certainly never read them word for word. He fills it with annoying white space and intersperses with out of context quotes and then fills the rest with just his own ramblings unrelated to the actual content of the thread. He is like death rides a bong... never bother reading.

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Re: Will Trump be deemed unfit for office?
Reply #31 - Feb 8^th, 2017 at 3:53pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 8:01am:

i'll be very surprised if he lasts a full term.

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Anyone...

Ok, if you were assigned to find a way to legally remove President Trump from office, precisely where in the Constitution would you find the reasons, the particular conditions necessary, that need to be proven, & proven to what parts of government, & how would you go about doing so, completely based upon your actual Constitutional findings, & Law?

Please cite exactly where in the US Constitution you find the authorities to remove a sitting President of the United States of America due to fitness (your definition of "FITNESS" must fit the law(s) you cite).

To start you in the right direction on your hypothetical quest, may I suggest one of a hundred starting places......US Constitution

PS....your quest may be hypothetical, but the grounds for removal, the process that must be followed, & legal findings (Constitutionality) must be factual (real...legitimate).......

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Agnes Gold Member Offline fish dinner Posts: 6081 Bedford Park rnd	Re: Will Trump be deemed unfit for office? Reply #32 - Feb 8^th, 2017 at 4:07pm Even if a way to remove him cannot be found..just let the BLOTUS rant and rave for 4 years..then the next election will end his shameful diarreahh anyway.. close your ears and don't listen/read. No oxygen would kill the putrid sack of shyt anyway.
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Re: Will Trump be deemed unfit for office?
Reply #34 - Feb 8^th, 2017 at 4:14pm

Agnes wrote on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 4:07pm:

Even if a way to remove him cannot be found..just let the BLOTUS rant and rave for 4 years..then the next election will end his shameful diarreahh anyway.. close your ears and don't listen/read. No oxygen would kill the putrid sack of shyt anyway.

Ok.....one anti-Trump, chest thumper, eliminated.....a dozen or so to go.

AGNES

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John Smith Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 75104 Gender:	Re: Will Trump be deemed unfit for office? Reply #35 - Feb 8^th, 2017 at 4:17pm Panther wrote on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 4:14pm: Ok.....one anti-Trump, chest thumper, eliminated.....a dozen or so to go. you haven't eliminated anyone ... you're dreaming if you think he cannot be impeached.
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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 21885 A cat with a view	Re: Will Trump be deemed unfit for office? Reply #36 - Feb 8^th, 2017 at 4:34pm Agnes wrote on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 4:07pm: Even if a way to remove him cannot be found..just let the BLOTUS rant and rave for 4 years..then the next election will end his shameful diarreahh anyway.. LOL Sorry, but barring an actual assassination, its going to be, 8 YEARS! Bank on it.
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Re: Will Trump be deemed unfit for office?
Reply #37 - Feb 8^th, 2017 at 4:36pm

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 8:11am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 8:01am:

i'll be very surprised if he lasts a full term.

At his current speed of craziness, I think he could be removed by mid-year. He is clearly showing signs of paranoid delusion and his team is so incompetent that they literally work in some darkened offices in the West Wing because they dont know how to turn the lights on and there is no one left to even ask.

What's far more likely than impeachment is the public's willingness to suck up the lies.

Well, 50% of the public. The US has never been so divided, even during Vietnam and Watergate. The other 50% will continue to rail and protest against Trump, making almost everything Trump does smell like sh/t. Trump can't possibly govern for all Americans, and there's no sign in his behaviour that he ever intended to.

Trump will prevail because the public has such low expectations of him, but he will certainly get nothing of any merit done. All Trump has to do is deliver on his breaking a few eggs promise - undo the work of Obama, break up federal agencies, get rid of a few taxes for the rich.

Trump will get his 4 years because the voters gave those 4 years away. The world will become accustomed to Trump, just as you get used to most afflictions. Trump's transparent spin will give us no end of entertainment - made even more compelling by the fact that this is the highest office in the world. This is not TV, it's reality.

Don't worry, Longy, you'll get used to it. You have no choice.

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Re: Will Trump be deemed unfit for office?
Reply #38 - Feb 8^th, 2017 at 4:40pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 4:36pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 8:11am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 8:01am:

i'll be very surprised if he lasts a full term.

At his current speed of craziness, I think he could be removed by mid-year. He is clearly showing signs of paranoid delusion and his team is so incompetent that they literally work in some darkened offices in the West Wing because they dont know how to turn the lights on and there is no one left to even ask.

What's far more likely than impeachment is the public's willingness to suck up the lies.

Well, 50% of the public. The US has never been so divided, even during Vietnam and Watergate. The other 50% will continue to rail and protest against Trump, making almost everything Trump does smell like sh/t. Trump can't possibly govern for all Americans, and there's no sign in his behaviour that he ever intended to.

Trump will prevail because the public has such low expectations of him, but he will certainly get nothing of any merit done. All Trump has to do is deliver on his breaking a few eggs promise - undo the work of Obama, break up federal agencies, get rid of a few taxes for the rich.

Trump will get his 4 years because the voters gave those 4 years away. The world will become accustomed to Trump, just as you get used to most afflictions. Trump's transparent spin will give us no end of entertainment - made even more compelling by the fact that this is the highest office in the world. This is not TV, it's reality.

Don't worry, Longy, you'll get used to it. You have no choice.

What sort of message would get sent if the leftists whinged so much that Trump got the sack? It would put on display how the US political system is undemocratic and would put the country into massive social division and decay. The best thing is to let it run it's course and stick to the system.

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Agnes Gold Member Offline fish dinner Posts: 6081 Bedford Park rnd	Re: Will Trump be deemed unfit for office? Reply #40 - Feb 8^th, 2017 at 4:43pm John Smith wrote on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 4:13pm: who said anything about legal? the CIA has other methods https://i.ytimg.com/vi/if2ob-nZ3lM/0.jpg Oh joy I am all excited..now don't be building my hopes up Mr Smith..steady as she goes .
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Re: Will Trump be deemed unfit for office?
Reply #41 - Feb 8^th, 2017 at 4:44pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 4:17pm:

Panther wrote on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 4:14pm:

Ok.....one anti-Trump, chest thumper, eliminated.....a dozen or so to go.

you haven't eliminated anyone ... you're dreaming if you think he cannot be impeached.

Anything can happen in US Politics.......but that said, NO SITTING US PRESIDENT over 230+ years has ever been forcibly removed from office via Impeachment.

Only 2 were impeached in over 230+ years.....Neither were removed.

President Donald J. Trump can be, but won't be legally removed from office outside of not being reelected. In American history, being reelected is overwhelmingly in an incumbent's favor if he wants a second term, & runs for a second term.

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John Smith......

Up to the challenge?....

For what, according to what law, & how?

Why not join Agnes??

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Re: Will Trump be deemed unfit for office?
Reply #42 - Feb 8^th, 2017 at 4:44pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 4:41pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 4:40pm:

It would put on display how the US political system is undemocratic

that horse has long bolted

3 million less votes and he still won Cheesy

Clinton won twice on less primary votes numbskull. It's not the first time it's happened.

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Re: Will Trump be deemed unfit for office?
Reply #43 - Feb 8^th, 2017 at 4:46pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 4:40pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 4:36pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 8:11am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 8:01am:

i'll be very surprised if he lasts a full term.

At his current speed of craziness, I think he could be removed by mid-year. He is clearly showing signs of paranoid delusion and his team is so incompetent that they literally work in some darkened offices in the West Wing because they dont know how to turn the lights on and there is no one left to even ask.

What's far more likely than impeachment is the public's willingness to suck up the lies.

Well, 50% of the public. The US has never been so divided, even during Vietnam and Watergate. The other 50% will continue to rail and protest against Trump, making almost everything Trump does smell like sh/t. Trump can't possibly govern for all Americans, and there's no sign in his behaviour that he ever intended to.

Trump will prevail because the public has such low expectations of him, but he will certainly get nothing of any merit done. All Trump has to do is deliver on his breaking a few eggs promise - undo the work of Obama, break up federal agencies, get rid of a few taxes for the rich.

Trump will get his 4 years because the voters gave those 4 years away. The world will become accustomed to Trump, just as you get used to most afflictions. Trump's transparent spin will give us no end of entertainment - made even more compelling by the fact that this is the highest office in the world. This is not TV, it's reality.

Don't worry, Longy, you'll get used to it. You have no choice.

What sort of message would get sent if the leftists whinged so much that Trump got the sack? It would put on display how the US political system is undemocratic and would put the country into massive social division and decay. The best thing is to let it run it's course and stick to the system.

It depends on the consequences of sticking with that system.

It's not just leftists screaming about Trump. For the most part, it's Republicans, judges, administrators and constitutional conservatives.

I can't see how Trump can get much done when he's opposed at every turn. Is that the system you want to stick with?

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Re: Will Trump be deemed unfit for office?
Reply #44 - Feb 8^th, 2017 at 4:47pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 4:44pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 4:41pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 4:40pm:

It would put on display how the US political system is undemocratic

that horse has long bolted

3 million less votes and he still won Cheesy

Clinton won twice on less primary votes numbskull. It's not the first time it's happened.