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Question: When Gandalf described the tribe of Jews as a mindless collective of traitors in order to justify genocide (see post #9), was it:

spinelessly apologising for racism    
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blatant racism    
  3 (60.0%)
a critique of old testament philosophy    
  1 (20.0%)




Total votes: 5
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Reply #45 - Feb 12th, 2017 at 4:09pm
 
Your definition does not say killing every Jew on the planet.
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Reply #46 - Feb 12th, 2017 at 4:11pm
 
When Custer's mob were annihilated by Crazy Horse and Sitting Bull, was it genocide of white 'civilisation' in that Indian Territory.  No, it was a massacre of Custer and his Men.
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Reply #47 - Feb 12th, 2017 at 4:55pm
 
What about when Muhammed wiped out a whole tribe in one day?
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Reply #48 - Feb 12th, 2017 at 5:00pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 4:55pm:
What about when Muhammed wiped out a whole tribe in one day?


If it happened....massacre.
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Reply #49 - Feb 12th, 2017 at 5:03pm
 
Because you found a definition that said it is only genocide if every single Jew on the planet is wiped out?
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Reply #50 - Feb 12th, 2017 at 5:11pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 5:03pm:
Because you found a definition that said it is only genocide if every single Jew on the planet is wiped out?


I found this definition.  Cease trying to verbal me, FD.

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"the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group"


It means what it says.
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Reply #51 - Feb 12th, 2017 at 5:27pm
 
Aussie wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 5:11pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 5:03pm:
Because you found a definition that said it is only genocide if every single Jew on the planet is wiped out?



I found this definition.  Cease trying to verbal me, FD.

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"the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group"


It means what it says.

Yes well hate to tell you Aussie but a tribe is a cultural group.
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Reply #52 - Feb 12th, 2017 at 5:30pm
 
Jews are Jews.  It matters not to me which Tribe they are from, even if they have Tribes.  What are the Jewish Tribes these days, Grendel?  What does it matter?
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Reply #53 - Feb 12th, 2017 at 5:36pm
 
Aussie wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 5:30pm:
Jews are Jews.  It matters not to me which Tribe they are from, even if they have Tribes.  What are the Jewish Tribes these days, Grendel?  What does it matter?

Sorry....  but you were wrong. Roll Eyes
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Reply #54 - Feb 12th, 2017 at 5:38pm
 
Aussie wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 5:11pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 5:03pm:
Because you found a definition that said it is only genocide if every single Jew on the planet is wiped out?


I found this definition.  Cease trying to verbal me, FD.

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"the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group"


It means what it says.


You said it means "every Jew".
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Reply #55 - Feb 12th, 2017 at 5:53pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 5:38pm:
Aussie wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 5:11pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 5:03pm:
Because you found a definition that said it is only genocide if every single Jew on the planet is wiped out?


I found this definition.  Cease trying to verbal me, FD.

Quote:
"the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group"


It means what it says.


You said it means "every Jew".


Yes, I did.  You asked, and while I know it is a concept totally foreign to you, I answered a question, in this case, yours.

Genocide of Jews means they are all exterminated.  It is self evident that is not the case.
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Reply #56 - Feb 12th, 2017 at 5:56pm
 
So you merely meant Muhammed did not genocide all the Jews? You were not trying to argue he committed no genocide?
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Reply #57 - Feb 12th, 2017 at 6:24pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 5:56pm:
So you merely meant Muhammed did not genocide all the Jews? You were not trying to argue he committed no genocide?


I didn't merely mean anything other than what I said.  Mo did not manage genocide of the Jews as is self evident.

I know you want to talk it up, but the honest term to use to describe what you reckon happened 1300 years ago, was a massacre of some Jews.
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Reply #58 - Feb 12th, 2017 at 6:35pm
 
Aussie wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 6:24pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 5:56pm:
So you merely meant Muhammed did not genocide all the Jews? You were not trying to argue he committed no genocide?


I didn't merely mean anything other than what I said.  Mo did not manage genocide of the Jews as is self evident.

I know you want to talk it up, but the honest term to use to describe what you reckon happened 1300 years ago, was a massacre of some Jews.


Makes notes for the next time a self loathing luvvie is banging on about genocide of the aboriginals.  Cool
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Reply #59 - Feb 12th, 2017 at 6:38pm
 
Aussie wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 6:24pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 5:56pm:
So you merely meant Muhammed did not genocide all the Jews? You were not trying to argue he committed no genocide?


I didn't merely mean anything other than what I said.  Mo did not manage genocide of the Jews as is self evident.



Your words Aussie - genocide means killing every Jew.

Aussie wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 2:04pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 6:45am:
Aussie wrote on Feb 10th, 2017 at 8:50pm:
Just a minor point.  How is killing 800 (and that figure is very rubbery as has already been debated) 'genocide?'  Isn't it self evident that it was not?


Muhammed killed every male in the tribe.

How many do you have to kill before it becomes genocide Aussie?


Every 'Jew.'

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