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Question: When Gandalf described the tribe of Jews as a mindless collective of traitors in order to justify genocide (see post #9), was it:

spinelessly apologising for racism    
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blatant racism    
  3 (60.0%)
a critique of old testament philosophy    
  1 (20.0%)




Total votes: 5
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Reply #60 - Feb 12th, 2017 at 6:53pm
 
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genocide means killing every Jew.


That's what I said.  Do you now agree?
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Re: How to spinelessly apologise for racism
Reply #61 - Feb 12th, 2017 at 6:55pm
 
So this:

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a national, racial, political, or cultural group


Can only possibly be interpreted to mean "every Jew"?
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Reply #62 - Feb 12th, 2017 at 7:16pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 6:55pm:
So this:

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a national, racial, political, or cultural group


Can only possibly be interpreted to mean "every Jew"?


Don't try to disconnect what I so obviously said.  Members here have been asked not to do that.  You left out half of what I posted which was:

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"the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group"


Exterminate means all of that group.  Do you know the difference between the meaning of a massacre and genocide?

What is the point of this discussion other than to demonstrate you were trying to talk up something which was (if it even happened 1300 years ago) a massacre as being genocide, because that is what you do so often and so patently.

It is pathetic and exposes yet again your willingness to exaggerate anything in the cause of a good old Muslim bash.
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Reply #63 - Feb 12th, 2017 at 8:04pm
 
Grendel wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 9:32am:
Apparently...

"Muhammad was once a refugee taken in by the Jewish City of Medina. Within 5-years, he had driven out, executed, or enslaved every jew there."

And in India...

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2015/08/31/islamic-invasion-of-india-the-gr...

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Muslim historian Firishta [full name Muhammad Qasim Hindu Shah, born in 1560 and died in 1620], the author of the Tarikh-i Firishta and the Gulshan-i Ibrahim, was the first to give an idea to the medieval bloodbath that was India during Muslim rule, when he declared that over 400 million Hindus got slaughtered during Muslim invasion and occupation of India. Survivors got enslaved and castrated. India’s population is said to have been around 600 million at the time of Muslim invasion. By the mid 1500’s the Hindu population was 200 million.


http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/29320

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The Muslim conquests, down to the 16th century, were for the Hindus a pure struggle of life and death. Entire cities were burnt down and the populations massacred, with hundreds of thousands killed in every campaign, and similar numbers deported as slaves. Every new invader made (often literally) his hills of Hindus skulls. Thus, the conquest of Afghanistan in the year 1000 was followed by the annihilation of the Hindu population; the region is still called the Hindu Kush, i.e. Hindu slaughter. The Bahmani sultans (1347-1480) in central India made it a rule to kill 100,000 captives in a single day, and many more on other occasions. The conquest of the Vijayanagar empire in 1564 left the capital plus large areas of Karnataka depopulated. And so on.


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Reply #64 - Feb 12th, 2017 at 9:05pm
 
Tell me, freediver, was what occurred at My Lai in 1968 genocide of South Vietnamese people, or a massacre of the citizens of that Village at the hands of Christians?
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Reply #65 - Feb 13th, 2017 at 6:04am
 
Aussie wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 9:05pm:
Tell me, freediver, was what occurred at My Lai in 1968 genocide of South Vietnamese people, or a massacre of the citizens of that Village at the hands of Christians?


Gooks are not a race, Aussie.
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Reply #66 - Feb 13th, 2017 at 10:26am
 
freediver wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 3:47pm:
Gandalf also prefers to use his own definition of words, like with racism. It is so much easier than giving a straight answer.


Ah.
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Reply #67 - Feb 15th, 2017 at 10:50am
 
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No, Effende, I made no such leap. 


Here you go Aussie, one more time:

Aussie wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 4:06pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 4:04pm:
So it was not genocide because Muhammed did not kill every Jew on the planet?


In terms of 'my' definition, yes.


How does your definition give you "every Jew"?

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As I said, I dunno who was innocent.  Effende, can you name an innocent person Mo killed in that alleged event?


The ones who were not proven guilty.

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Of course you can't because you know just as much as I do about it, which is SFA.


I know which incident we are talking about, which is a lot more than you.
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Reply #68 - Feb 15th, 2017 at 11:49am
 
Maybe you could ask him here, Aussie. It looks like FD's left the other thread.

Cunning, no?
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Reply #69 - Feb 15th, 2017 at 12:11pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 15th, 2017 at 10:50am:
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No, Effende, I made no such leap. 


Here you go Aussie, one more time:

Aussie wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 4:06pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 4:04pm:
So it was not genocide because Muhammed did not kill every Jew on the planet?


In terms of 'my' definition, yes.


How does your definition give you "every Jew"?

Genocide > extermination > every Jew.  It did not happen.


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As I said, I dunno who was innocent.  Effende, can you name an innocent person Mo killed in that alleged event?


The ones who were not proven guilty.

Are we talking about the same fable?  There were Trials after the alleged massacre??  Who was proven not guilty?  How
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Of course you can't because you know just as much as I do about it, which is SFA.


I know which incident we are talking about, which is a lot more than you.

You might be right there, Effende.


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Reply #70 - Feb 15th, 2017 at 12:14pm
 
Karnal wrote on Feb 15th, 2017 at 11:49am:
Maybe you could ask him here, Aussie. It looks like FD's left the other thread.

Cunning, no?


I think we are all just gonna have to suck it up like good little buttercups.  Only the questions posed by Effende get answered here.

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Reply #71 - Feb 15th, 2017 at 1:51pm
 
Aussie wrote on Feb 15th, 2017 at 12:14pm:
Karnal wrote on Feb 15th, 2017 at 11:49am:
Maybe you could ask him here, Aussie. It looks like FD's left the other thread.

Cunning, no?


I think we are all just gonna have to suck it up like good little buttercups.  Only the questions posed by Effende get answered here.

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Yes, but FD'S gone back to the other thread to ask you more questions - the same ones he's already asked.

Maybe you could ask FD if the cat has his tongue.

That could work.
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