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Re: The Koran vs 18c
Reply #45 - Feb 13^th, 2017 at 8:11pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 9:05am:

Grendel wrote on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 9:00am:

Well there you have it.... the reason 18C needs to be changed is to protect us from idiots like bwian.

You offend me every day bwian with your insults and lies...

Brian should leave Ozpolitic.

He clearly gets offended too much with other view points.

He also clearly gets confused too much with his other multi nics.

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Re: The Koran vs 18c
Reply #46 - Feb 13^th, 2017 at 8:24pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 8:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 9:05am:

Grendel wrote on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 9:00am:

Well there you have it.... the reason 18C needs to be changed is to protect us from idiots like bwian.

You offend me every day bwian with your insults and lies...

Brian should leave Ozpolitic.

He clearly gets offended too much with other view points.

He also clearly gets confused too much with his other multi nics.

You ain't see nothing Jones. Have you met Adamant, Kemal and jeez recently?

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Re: The Koran vs 18c
Reply #47 - Feb 13^th, 2017 at 8:28pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 8:24pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 8:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 9:05am:

Grendel wrote on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 9:00am:

Well there you have it.... the reason 18C needs to be changed is to protect us from idiots like bwian.

You offend me every day bwian with your insults and lies...

Brian should leave Ozpolitic.

He clearly gets offended too much with other view points.

He also clearly gets confused too much with his other multi nics.

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You ain't see nothing Jones. Have you met Adamant, Kemal and jeez recently?

I've seen that Kemal nic around.

I've not seen the other 2.

Why do you ask?

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Re: The Koran vs 18c
Reply #48 - Feb 13^th, 2017 at 9:22pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 8:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 9:05am:

Grendel wrote on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 9:00am:

Well there you have it.... the reason 18C needs to be changed is to protect us from idiots like bwian.

You offend me every day bwian with your insults and lies...

Brian should leave Ozpolitic.

He clearly gets offended too much with other view points.

He also clearly gets confused too much with his other multi nics.

What other "nics" have I used, Lisa? Please present your evidence. Otherwise, piss off with your innuendo. I have only ever used the one account on this forum, this one - Brian Ross... Roll Eyes

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Re: The Koran vs 18c
Reply #49 - Feb 13^th, 2017 at 9:24pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 8:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 7:14pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 4:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 10:57pm:

I wonder how well The Bible would go against Section 18c of the Racial Discrimination Act? Not well, I suspect, considering what it has to say in The Old Testament (and to a lesser extent, the new). Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

As it so happens, as a Christian .... I know that the New Testament of the Holy Bible has no issue with Section 18c.

The Koran on the other hand.....

So go tsk tsk yourself all you like.

You've now shown me (in here and in another topic under your "Brian" nic).....that you haven't a clue about much at all when it comes to religion.

Ah, but if you knew anything about Religion, Lisa you would know that The Bible consists of more than just the New Testament... Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Yeah...you got me.

I had no idea that the Old Testament existed.

Thanks for letting me know "Brian".

Idiot!

You were the one that only mentioned one of the two Testaments, Lisa. Not me. I've always made sure that it's obvious I know about the Old Testament as well as the New. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Re: The Koran vs 18c
Reply #50 - Feb 13^th, 2017 at 9:25pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 8:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 7:17pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 6:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 4:16pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 8:04am:

Wassup bwian?

SHOTDOWN AGAIN...

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Oh dear, wasting our time yet again, Geoff with your endless ad hominem debate. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Tsk tsk tsk.... I just reply to your ad hom bwian... Cheesy

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Oh dear, wasting our time yet again, Geoff... Roll Eyes

Still spamming topics with that emoticon eh?

At some stage, you'll realize it only betrays the fact that you've got nothing/you've lost the argument.

Oh, dear, another who is under the delusion that Geoff (Grendel) is offering an argument. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: The Koran vs 18c Reply #51 - Feb 14^th, 2017 at 1:04pm Oh but I do bwian... and do try to stick with my site id please otherwise you might find yourself breaking one of fd's rules. How many times have you tried that one on eh...
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Re: The Koran vs 18c
Reply #52 - Feb 14^th, 2017 at 10:55pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 1:04pm:

Oh but I do bwian... and do try to stick with my site id please otherwise you might find yourself breaking one of fd's rules. How many times have you tried that one on eh... Roll Eyes

Tough, Geoff. You can call yourself what you like. I will call you by the name I first encountered you under. People who are too frightened to stand by their opinions don't deserve any respect... Roll Eyes

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Re: The Koran vs 18c
Reply #53 - Feb 14^th, 2017 at 11:26pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 10:55pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 1:04pm:

Oh but I do bwian... and do try to stick with my site id please otherwise you might find yourself breaking one of fd's rules. How many times have you tried that one on eh... Roll Eyes

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Tough, Geoff. You can call yourself what you like. I will call you by the name I first encountered you under.

People who are too frightened to stand by their opinions don't deserve any respect... Roll Eyes

So Brian, i have reason to hope that you will respect me in the morning, perhaps tomorrow ?

Yes ?

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Re: The Koran vs 18c
Reply #54 - Feb 15^th, 2017 at 12:15am

Yadda wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 11:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 10:55pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 1:04pm:

Oh but I do bwian... and do try to stick with my site id please otherwise you might find yourself breaking one of fd's rules. How many times have you tried that one on eh... Roll Eyes

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Tough, Geoff. You can call yourself what you like. I will call you by the name I first encountered you under.

People who are too frightened to stand by their opinions don't deserve any respect... Roll Eyes

So Brian, i have reason to hope that you will respect me in the morning, perhaps tomorrow ?

Yes ?

Why? Is "Yadda" your real name? Shocked

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Re: The Koran vs 18c
Reply #55 - Feb 15^th, 2017 at 1:49am

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 12:15am:

Yadda wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 11:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 10:55pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 1:04pm:

Oh but I do bwian... and do try to stick with my site id please otherwise you might find yourself breaking one of fd's rules. How many times have you tried that one on eh... Roll Eyes

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Tough, Geoff. You can call yourself what you like. I will call you by the name I first encountered you under.

People who are too frightened to stand by their opinions don't deserve any respect... Roll Eyes

So Brian, i have reason to hope that you will respect me in the morning, perhaps tomorrow ?

Yes ?

Why? Is "Yadda" your real name? Shocked

#1
If i posted my RL name here, i would then have to deal with attempts on my life, by persons who would justify those attempts on my life, by claiming that i had offended their religion/philosophy [i.e. as a blasphemer against their true faith].

But the fact that i would then have to deal with threats/attempts on my life, could not, i would argue, change my opinions.       ['opinions', once 'grasped' hold of, tend to be deeply held]

Revealing my RL name would not 'demonstrate' a 'principled' position,    rather it would demonstrate, imo, irrationality,       because the act of revealing my RL name would immeasurably 'complicate' my life/existence.

And if one of your friends actually succeeded in finding me, and in killing me, would that action/'success', demonstrate that his opinion was more valid or more 'principled', than my own opinion ?

#2
Laying all of the above to one side......
I would rather just express my opinions/arguments in a public forum such as this one,    WHERE ANYONE WHO HAD A LEGITIMATE COMPLAINT AGAINST WHAT I HAD EXPRESSED,    could engage with me, and use reason and the superiority of their own position/argument, to defeat me, and to demonstrate to everyone on this public forum, how mistaken/in error, my own position/opinions were.

"And if the detractors [of certain comments i have made] have a legitimate complaint, then let them air it [IN THE FORUM], and have their complaint tested in debate!
.....FOR ALL TO SEE."

Brian, as much as you may want #1 to occur.

Myself, i would simply like to be able to express what i believe, freely,       and be free to demonstrate my foolishness, to the whole world.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1485568203/1#1

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: The Koran vs 18c
Reply #56 - Feb 15^th, 2017 at 8:48am

Yadda wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 11:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 10:55pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 1:04pm:

Oh but I do bwian... and do try to stick with my site id please otherwise you might find yourself breaking one of fd's rules. How many times have you tried that one on eh... Roll Eyes

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Tough, Geoff. You can call yourself what you like. I will call you by the name I first encountered you under.

People who are too frightened to stand by their opinions don't deserve any respect... Roll Eyes

So Brian, i have reason to hope that you will respect me in the morning, perhaps tomorrow ?

Yes ?

Bwian respects no one except bwian...

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: The Koran vs 18c Reply #57 - Feb 15^th, 2017 at 8:50am Perhaps bwian is fortunate he is a LW Prog and Conservatives don't do things like Fraudulently impersonate him on the Net... or stalk him to his job or residence. No bwian only respects bwian.
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Re: The Koran vs 18c
Reply #58 - Feb 15^th, 2017 at 7:03pm

Yadda wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 1:49am:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 12:15am:

Yadda wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 11:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 10:55pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 1:04pm:

Oh but I do bwian... and do try to stick with my site id please otherwise you might find yourself breaking one of fd's rules. How many times have you tried that one on eh... Roll Eyes

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Tough, Geoff. You can call yourself what you like. I will call you by the name I first encountered you under.

People who are too frightened to stand by their opinions don't deserve any respect... Roll Eyes

So Brian, i have reason to hope that you will respect me in the morning, perhaps tomorrow ?

Yes ?

Why? Is "Yadda" your real name? Shocked

#1
If i posted my RL name here, i would then have to deal with attempts on my life, by persons who would justify those attempts on my life, by claiming that i had offended their religion/philosophy [i.e. as a blasphemer against their true faith].

But the fact that i would then have to deal with threats/attempts on my life, could not, i would argue, change my opinions.       ['opinions', once 'grasped' hold of, tend to be deeply held]

Revealing my RL name would not 'demonstrate' a 'principled' position,    rather it would demonstrate, imo, irrationality,       because the act of revealing my RL name would immeasurably 'complicate' my life/existence.

And if one of your friends actually succeeded in finding me, and in killing me, would that action/'success', demonstrate that his opinion was more valid or more 'principled', than my own opinion ?

#2
Laying all of the above to one side......
I would rather just express my opinions/arguments in a public forum such as this one,    WHERE ANYONE WHO HAD A LEGITIMATE COMPLAINT AGAINST WHAT I HAD EXPRESSED,    could engage with me, and use reason and the superiority of their own position/argument, to defeat me, and to demonstrate to everyone on this public forum, how mistaken/in error, my own position/opinions were.

"And if the detractors [of certain comments i have made] have a legitimate complaint, then let them air it [IN THE FORUM], and have their complaint tested in debate!
.....FOR ALL TO SEE."

Brian, as much as you may want #1 to occur.

Myself, i would simply like to be able to express what i believe, freely,       and be free to demonstrate my foolishness, to the whole world.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1485568203/1#1

Yadda, if you seek to hide yourself behind a pseudonym then you cannot claim that pseudonym is your real name. I doubt anybody would seek you out to hurt you. I have been online now for over 25 years, always using my real name/login. I have upset a lot of people in that time and guess what, I am still alive, uncrippled and still upsetting people.

Come out of your cupboard. It will do you good. Face the light. Indeed, see the light!

You might find that what you're saying/doing is all just an act. A very poorly received one.

Of course, you can continue to hide if you want but no, I won't respect you any more for it... Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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