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Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime
Reply #120 - Feb 14^th, 2017 at 4:16pm

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In 2010, a statistic was published which listed delinquency by nationality (based on 2009 data). To avoid distortions due to demographic structure, only the male population aged between 18 and 34 was considered for each group. From the study, it became clear that crime rate is highly correlated on the country of origin of the various migrant groups. Thus, immigrants from Germany, France and Austria had a significantly lower crime rate than Swiss citizens (60% to 80%), while immigrants from Angola, Nigeria and Algeria had a crime rate of above 600% of that of Swiss population. In between these extremes were immigrants from Former Yugoslavia, with crime rates of between 210% and 300% of the Swiss value

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Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime
Reply #121 - Feb 14^th, 2017 at 4:24pm

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The only reliable statistics on immigrant crime in Australia are based on imprisonment rates by place of birth. As of 1999, this data indicated that immigrants from Vietnam (2.7 per 1,000 of population), Lebanon (1.6) and New Zealand (1.6) were over-represented within the national criminal justice system. Compared to the Australian-born (1), immigrants from Italy (0.6), the United Kingdom (0.6), Ireland (0.6) and Greece (0.5) were under-represented

And today we have as I posted earlier over representation of immigrants and children of some immigrant groups in our gaols. Funnily enough that seems to prove immigrants do increase our crime.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime Reply #122 - Feb 14^th, 2017 at 4:29pm I note..... that it does not matter one jot if immigrants are found guilty of crime at a lesser rate of indigenous in this topic... which made the absurd claim that Immigrants do not increase crime.... Take away all those crimes by immigrants (Or take away the immigrants)and you get what? Less Crime.
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Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime
Reply #123 - Feb 14^th, 2017 at 5:20pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 10:15am:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 6:53pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 6:34pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 3:57pm:

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Critique any culture/society/group you desire to Grendel - just don't be insulting to them or your critics. All you do is lower yourself continually to your schoolground level of bully-boy insults and ad hominem debate. When you face up to that and relinquish it, then we might be able to have a conversation. Roll Eyes

Really bwian I think you will find your constant ad hom and flaming requires a response... perhaps you should just stop being a dishonest hypocrite...
You run from debate you hide when you lose.
Best you keep hiding behind your YAWN eh.

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Oh, dear, tsk, tsk, Geoff, you need to raise yourself out of the gutter where you live... Roll Eyes

Thank you bwian... proof of more flaming and insults from the YOU...TROLL.

Poor, poor, Geoff. Just cannot handle the criticism, it seems. He obviously wants us to all march in lockstep to his tune, on his single drum, drumming a message of hatred and intolerance and persecution. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime
Reply #124 - Feb 14^th, 2017 at 5:22pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 3:58pm:

Now one more time just for a good old laugh.

Immigrants do not increase Crime

Just defies logic doesn't it.... not to mention statistics... crime statistics. Grin

What a shame you don't use US statistics in your argument, Geoff. What a shame. Tsk, tsk. Remember, this thread is about the US experience of legal immigrants to their society. Not, Norway's, not Spain's, not the UK's, not Germany's but the USA's experience... Roll Eyes

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Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime
Reply #125 - Feb 14^th, 2017 at 6:29pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 5:20pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 10:15am:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 6:53pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 6:34pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 3:57pm:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Critique any culture/society/group you desire to Grendel - just don't be insulting to them or your critics. All you do is lower yourself continually to your schoolground level of bully-boy insults and ad hominem debate. When you face up to that and relinquish it, then we might be able to have a conversation. Roll Eyes

Really bwian I think you will find your constant ad hom and flaming requires a response... perhaps you should just stop being a dishonest hypocrite...
You run from debate you hide when you lose.
Best you keep hiding behind your YAWN eh.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Oh, dear, tsk, tsk, Geoff, you need to raise yourself out of the gutter where you live... Roll Eyes

Thank you bwian... proof of more flaming and insults from the YOU...TROLL.

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Poor, poor, Geoff. Just cannot handle the criticism, it seems. He obviously wants us to all march in lockstep to his tune, on his single drum, drumming a message of hatred and intolerance and persecution. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

YOU NEED TO STOP LYING ABOUT ME BWIAN... LONG PAST A VISIT TO A SHRINK NEEDED FOR YOU SUNSHINE.

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Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime
Reply #126 - Feb 14^th, 2017 at 6:31pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 5:22pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 3:58pm:

Now one more time just for a good old laugh.

Immigrants do not increase Crime

Just defies logic doesn't it.... not to mention statistics... crime statistics. Grin

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

What a shame you don't use US statistics in your argument, Geoff. What a shame. Tsk, tsk. Remember, this thread is about the US experience of legal immigrants to their society. Not, Norway's, not Spain's, not the UK's, not Germany's but the USA's experience... Roll Eyes

I can use a great many more than I did... the result is actually the same. as soon as 1 migrant commits a crime your stupid statement falls apart.

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Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime
Reply #127 - Feb 14^th, 2017 at 7:24pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 6:29pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 5:20pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 10:15am:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 6:53pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 6:34pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 3:57pm:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Critique any culture/society/group you desire to Grendel - just don't be insulting to them or your critics. All you do is lower yourself continually to your schoolground level of bully-boy insults and ad hominem debate. When you face up to that and relinquish it, then we might be able to have a conversation. Roll Eyes

Really bwian I think you will find your constant ad hom and flaming requires a response... perhaps you should just stop being a dishonest hypocrite...
You run from debate you hide when you lose.
Best you keep hiding behind your YAWN eh.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Oh, dear, tsk, tsk, Geoff, you need to raise yourself out of the gutter where you live... Roll Eyes

Thank you bwian... proof of more flaming and insults from the YOU...TROLL.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Poor, poor, Geoff. Just cannot handle the criticism, it seems. He obviously wants us to all march in lockstep to his tune, on his single drum, drumming a message of hatred and intolerance and persecution. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

YOU NEED TO STOP LYING ABOUT ME BWIAN... LONG PAST A VISIT TO A SHRINK NEEDED FOR YOU SUNSHINE.

If I have lied about your comments, Geoff, prove I have lied. Quote to us where you have identified and condemned racism/Xenophobia/Islamophobia. Quote to us where you have identified and condemned racial discrimination/hatred/etc.

If you do, I will unreservedly apologise to you.

If you don't, then I expect you will unreservedly apologise to me.

Simples, really. Until you present your evidence, run along. Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime
Reply #128 - Feb 14^th, 2017 at 7:26pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 6:31pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 5:22pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 3:58pm:

Now one more time just for a good old laugh.

Immigrants do not increase Crime

Just defies logic doesn't it.... not to mention statistics... crime statistics. Grin

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

What a shame you don't use US statistics in your argument, Geoff. What a shame. Tsk, tsk. Remember, this thread is about the US experience of legal immigrants to their society. Not, Norway's, not Spain's, not the UK's, not Germany's but the USA's experience... Roll Eyes

I can use a great many more than I did... the result is actually the same. as soon as 1 migrant commits a crime your stupid statement falls apart.

"My statement"? What statement would that be, Geoff? I have only provided a link to an article, nothing more. I have not indicated one way or another what my opinion on this topic is. You have made many assumptions but this is your worse and guess what, it's all your own doing... Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Reply #129 - Feb 14^th, 2017 at 9:37pm

yes bwian didn't you start the topic.
Didn't you create the topic? hmmmmm
IMMIGRANTS DO NOT INCREASE CRIME
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That statement bwian...

Oh and bwian apart from the yawns you have made it abundantly clear what your opinion is otherwise you really do need to see a shrink.

Of course if you agree with me the fact you keep disagreeing with me and playing the man and not the issues would suggest you are a total psycho. Cheesy

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Reply #130 - Feb 14^th, 2017 at 10:39pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 9:37pm:

yes bwian didn't you start the topic.
Didn't you create the topic? hmmmmm
IMMIGRANTS DO NOT INCREASE CRIME
Grin

That statement bwian...

Oh and bwian apart from the yawns you have made it abundantly clear what your opinion is otherwise you really do need to see a shrink.

Of course if you agree with me the fact you keep disagreeing with me and playing the man and not the issues would suggest you are a total psycho. Cheesy

Geoff, I provided a link to an article I felt was interesting. You reacted and continue to react to justify your Xenophobia. Simples really. You scream and shout your ad hominem all across the screen and then you get upset when I indicate that I find the whole thing rather tiresome. Tough. When you grow up and stop rolling in the gutter, we might have a discussion. Until then, enjoy your mud bath. Roll Eyes

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Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime
Reply #131 - Feb 15^th, 2017 at 9:07am

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 7:24pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 6:29pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 5:20pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 10:15am:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 6:53pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 6:34pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 3:57pm:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Critique any culture/society/group you desire to Grendel - just don't be insulting to them or your critics. All you do is lower yourself continually to your schoolground level of bully-boy insults and ad hominem debate. When you face up to that and relinquish it, then we might be able to have a conversation. Roll Eyes

Really bwian I think you will find your constant ad hom and flaming requires a response... perhaps you should just stop being a dishonest hypocrite...
You run from debate you hide when you lose.
Best you keep hiding behind your YAWN eh.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Oh, dear, tsk, tsk, Geoff, you need to raise yourself out of the gutter where you live... Roll Eyes

Thank you bwian... proof of more flaming and insults from the YOU...TROLL.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Poor, poor, Geoff. Just cannot handle the criticism, it seems. He obviously wants us to all march in lockstep to his tune, on his single drum, drumming a message of hatred and intolerance and persecution. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

YOU NEED TO STOP LYING ABOUT ME BWIAN... LONG PAST A VISIT TO A SHRINK NEEDED FOR YOU SUNSHINE.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

If I have lied about your comments, Geoff, prove I have lied. Quote to us where you have identified and condemned racism/Xenophobia/Islamophobia. Quote to us where you have identified and condemned racial discrimination/hatred/etc.

If you do, I will unreservedly apologise to you.

If you don't, then I expect you will unreservedly apologise to me.

Simples, really. Until you present your evidence, run along. Roll Eyes

I already have and you never do... you are a dishonest hypocrite of the worst kind bwian

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Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime
Reply #132 - Feb 15^th, 2017 at 9:15am

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 10:39pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 9:37pm:

yes bwian didn't you start the topic.
Didn't you create the topic? hmmmmm
IMMIGRANTS DO NOT INCREASE CRIME
Grin

That statement bwian...

Oh and bwian apart from the yawns you have made it abundantly clear what your opinion is otherwise you really do need to see a shrink.

Of course if you agree with me the fact you keep disagreeing with me and playing the man and not the issues would suggest you are a total psycho. Cheesy

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Geoff, I provided a link to an article I felt was interesting. You reacted and continue to react to justify your Xenophobia.

I REPLIED bwian, if you don't like replies don't post. One is not xenophobic because they disagree with you one is not racist because they disagree with you. You think its fine to call me and others a xenophobe a racist a loon etc, etc, etc... then pretend you are a innocent when you flame everyone everyday. Where is my unreserved apology you just promised bwian? LIAR!!!

Simples really. You scream and shout your ad hominem all across the screen and then you get upset when I indicate that I find the whole thing rather tiresome.

I don't scream and shout bwian... you probably need to see a shrink about that text is a silent media.... you mean I highlight and emphasise don't you, then stop the emotive claptrap and address the issues instead of flaming me and posting dumb looking yawns instead of replying like and intelligent person to posts. As for ad hom.... pot kettle black bwian... you taught me all I know.

Tough.

No bwian its tough for you apparently too tough for you to give a courteous answer.

When you grow up and stop rolling in the gutter, we might have a discussion.

There is no gutter to roll in bwian so again I suggest you stop the insults and flaming you say you never partake in. You are simply a liar and a hypocrite, the proof is all over the site.

Until then, enjoy your mud bath.

Ah yes more stupidity and more flaming...

Here we have one more bundle of proof of the continuous endless trolling of the site hypocrite brian ross... the holier than thou Dr of Divinity...

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Reply #133 - Feb 15^th, 2017 at 9:19am

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 5:22pm:

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What a shame you don't use US statistics in your argument, Geoff. What a shame. Tsk, tsk. Remember, this thread is about the US experience of legal immigrants to their society. Not, Norway's, not Spain's, not the UK's, not Germany's but the USA's experience... Roll Eyes

Why are their immigrants so special as far as committing hardly any crimes and how are the mexican, cuban, dominican, south american crime gangs explained away?

Muslim immigration has been an absolute disaster for any country stupid enough to let them in, but not the US.

Mexican drug cartels use mexican immigrants to sell drugs and viciously maintain 'market share' and yet are not considered as criminals of any note.

You can see how your report does not look like it would hold up to scrutiny.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime Reply #134 - Feb 15^th, 2017 at 9:29am My point exactly BigOl64. But everyone needs to be careful now Brian Ross is out to get people banned that shoot down his beliefs and arguments. He likes to lord it over people, but can't handle a real debate. Hence all the lovely YAWNS... now we have threats.
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