Australian Politics Forum - Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime

Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime Reply #180 - Mar 6^th, 2017 at 9:21am Yes and even sillier that someone would believe it and push it...
Back to top	IP Logged

Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 40938	Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime Reply #181 - Mar 6^th, 2017 at 5:16pm rhino wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 1:08am: was that your thesis Brian? tsk tsk. lol. Touche'! You have touched me! Mon dieu! I retire!
Back to top	Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... IP Logged

BigOl64

Gold Member

Offline

Posts: 14438
Townsville QLD
Gender: male

Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime
Reply #182 - Mar 6^th, 2017 at 5:27pm

Fuzzball wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 8:21am:

Ask the people of France, Belgium, The Nederland, Britain etc etc if ‘Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime’. Probably the silliest ‘study and study result’ published and posted on this forum by an obvious plonker. Roll Eyes

It is only in the USA where this happens, the rest of the planet gets the full effect of open door immigration.

Just ask brian, he will confirm this report applies only to the USA only and cannot be inferred for any other country.

So all those terrorists, rapists kiddie fiddlers and murderers are to be expected under normal open door immigration like europe has,

Back to top

IP Logged

Grendel

Gold Member

Offline

OzPolitic

Posts: 28080
Gender: male

Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime
Reply #183 - Mar 6^th, 2017 at 7:17pm

There are many studies that shootdown bwian's stupidity, here is just 1.

Quote:

Associate professor of sociology at the University of Massachusetts, Boston.
Using numbers from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, her study finds that about 17% of all first-generation immigrants who are age 16 have committed a crime

Oh dear... game, set and match bwian.

Back to top

IP Logged

Brian Ross

Gold Member

Offline

Representative of me

Posts: 40938

Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime
Reply #184 - Mar 6^th, 2017 at 7:34pm

Grendel wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 7:17pm:

There are many studies that shootdown bwian's stupidity, here is just 1.

Quote:

Associate professor of sociology at the University of Massachusetts, Boston.
Using numbers from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, her study finds that about 17% of all first-generation immigrants who are age 16 have committed a crime

Oh dear... game, set and match bwian.

Wrong, Grendel and you've been caught lying by omission. Why not include a link to the article where you found that? Oh, wait, the paragraph after yours states:

Quote:

I find a study by Bianca E Bersani. I look her up – she’s a associate professor of sociology at the University of Massachusetts, Boston. Using numbers from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, her study finds that about 17% of all first-generation immigrants who are age 16 have committed a crime in the past 12 months.

Step 5: But wait. Is that number high or low? I decide to find out how often native-born people in the US commit crimes. Luckily, her study has that too. It’s higher: about 25% of all native-born people in the US who are 16 have committed a crime in the past 12 months.

[Source]

From the same source:

So, Native Born Americans commit 10% more crimes than do migrants aged 16... So, effectively, Migrants do not contribute to the crime rate as much as you're attempting to claim, Grendel. Tsk, tsk, caught lying by omission or you don't understand what you're reading.

Back to top

Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

IP Logged

Frank

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 44659
Gender: male

Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime
Reply #185 - Mar 6^th, 2017 at 8:50pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 12:49am:

Frank wrote on Mar 5^th, 2017 at 9:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 5^th, 2017 at 5:19pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 5^th, 2017 at 5:02pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 6:21pm:

Dear oh, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk. More ad hominem, Geoff? Is that all you have left? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

You attract more of it than anyone else, you little bleater. Ever wondered why?

Dear, oh, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk. More ad hominem, Soren? Is that all you have left? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

It's a question, Brian, not an ad hominem. Don't tell me you can't tell the difference.

Why are you ridiculed by everyone, Brian? Why are you held in such enormous contempt by so many ordinary people from all walks of life?

Really? What about you, Soren? What's your excuse for how much real people hold you in contempt? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Who, buffoon? You? You are not real, you are a bad parody.
Gweggy? Karnal? They are merely despicable and contemptible. You are despicable and contemptible and a doolally.

Back to top

Estragon: I can’t go on like this.
Vladimir: That’s what you think.

IP Logged

Brian Ross

Gold Member

Offline

Representative of me

Posts: 40938

Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime
Reply #186 - Mar 6^th, 2017 at 9:24pm

Frank wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 8:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 12:49am:

Frank wrote on Mar 5^th, 2017 at 9:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 5^th, 2017 at 5:19pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 5^th, 2017 at 5:02pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 6:21pm:

Dear oh, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk. More ad hominem, Geoff? Is that all you have left? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

You attract more of it than anyone else, you little bleater. Ever wondered why?

Dear, oh, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk. More ad hominem, Soren? Is that all you have left? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

It's a question, Brian, not an ad hominem. Don't tell me you can't tell the difference.

Why are you ridiculed by everyone, Brian? Why are you held in such enormous contempt by so many ordinary people from all walks of life?

Really? What about you, Soren? What's your excuse for how much real people hold you in contempt? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Who, buffoon? You? You are not real, you are a bad parody.
Gweggy? Karnal? They are merely despicable and contemptible. You are despicable and contemptible and a doolally.

Tsk, tsk, dearie, oh, dearie me. Resorting to argument ad hominem again, Soren? Roll Eyes

Back to top

Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

IP Logged

Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 44659 Gender:	Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime Reply #187 - Mar 6^th, 2017 at 9:26pm Brian Ross wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 12:50am: rhino wrote on Mar 5^th, 2017 at 11:01pm: Doctor of Divinity, Lol. That was precious. Oh, dear, I am so hurt, Rhino. Is that the best you can do? Really? Tsk, tsk. What was your doctoral thesis about, Brian?
Back to top	Estragon: I can’t go on like this. Vladimir: That’s what you think. IP Logged

Brian Ross

Gold Member

Offline

Representative of me

Posts: 40938

Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime
Reply #188 - Mar 6^th, 2017 at 9:32pm

Frank wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 9:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 12:50am:

rhino wrote on Mar 5^th, 2017 at 11:01pm:

Doctor of Divinity, Lol. That was precious.

Oh, dear, I am so hurt, Rhino. Is that the best you can do? Really? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

What was your doctoral thesis about, Brian?

I don't have a Doctorate (Phd), Soren. I am preparing to go back to university this or next year to undertake my Doctorate. I have not decided what my thesis will be about. Roll Eyes

Back to top

Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

IP Logged

Grendel

Gold Member

Offline

OzPolitic

Posts: 28080
Gender: male

Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime
Reply #189 - Mar 7^th, 2017 at 10:25am

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 7:34pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 7:17pm:

There are many studies that shootdown bwian's stupidity, here is just 1.

Quote:

Associate professor of sociology at the University of Massachusetts, Boston.
Using numbers from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, her study finds that about 17% of all first-generation immigrants who are age 16 have committed a crime

Oh dear... game, set and match bwian.

Wrong, Grendel and you've been caught lying by omission. Why not include a link to the article where you found that? Oh, wait, the paragraph after yours states:

Quote:

I find a study by Bianca E Bersani. I look her up – she’s a associate professor of sociology at the University of Massachusetts, Boston. Using numbers from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, her study finds that about 17% of all first-generation immigrants who are age 16 have committed a crime in the past 12 months.

Step 5: But wait. Is that number high or low? I decide to find out how often native-born people in the US commit crimes. Luckily, her study has that too. It’s higher: about 25% of all native-born people in the US who are 16 have committed a crime in the past 12 months.

[Source]

From the same source:

http://imageshack.com/a/img922/7875/zDWKSy.jpg

So, Native Born Americans commit 10% more crimes than do migrants aged 16... So, effectively, Migrants do not contribute to the crime rate as much as you're attempting to claim, Grendel. Tsk, tsk, caught lying by omission or you don't understand what you're reading.

LOL you are a goose.... just because I omitted a link doesn't make the quote a lie now does it bwian.
Oh wait did you google it and find it?
Good for you you show more promise than your mate Arsie... who is too lazy to even look for his arse.
So now you try to deflect by saying more native Americans are in American jails that immigrant Americans? LOL You are funny.
Your claim bwian is that IMMIGRANTS DO NOT INCREASE CRIME bwian... apparently on this study alone bwian they increase it by 17%.... choke on it bwian you were shotdown before and your even more shotdown now...

Oh dear and I didn't lie after all bwian... I accept your non-apology as an apology... since now we all know how incapable you are of giving a genuine one.

Back to top

IP Logged

Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 40938	Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime Reply #190 - Mar 7^th, 2017 at 9:39pm Do you need "lying by omission" explained to you, Geoff? Really? Tsk, tsk. Such a silly sausage.
Back to top	Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... IP Logged

rhino

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 17179
Gender: male

Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime
Reply #191 - Mar 7^th, 2017 at 9:44pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 9:32pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 9:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 12:50am:

rhino wrote on Mar 5^th, 2017 at 11:01pm:

Doctor of Divinity, Lol. That was precious.

Oh, dear, I am so hurt, Rhino. Is that the best you can do? Really? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

What was your doctoral thesis about, Brian?

I don't have a Doctorate (Phd), Soren. I am preparing to go back to university this or next year to undertake my Doctorate. I have not decided what my thesis will be about. Roll Eyes

So your claim to have a PHD was a lie.

Back to top

IP Logged

Brian Ross

Gold Member

Offline

Representative of me

Posts: 40938

Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime
Reply #192 - Mar 7^th, 2017 at 10:44pm

rhino wrote on Mar 7^th, 2017 at 9:44pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 9:32pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 9:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 12:50am:

rhino wrote on Mar 5^th, 2017 at 11:01pm:

Doctor of Divinity, Lol. That was precious.

Oh, dear, I am so hurt, Rhino. Is that the best you can do? Really? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

What was your doctoral thesis about, Brian?

I don't have a Doctorate (Phd), Soren. I am preparing to go back to university this or next year to undertake my Doctorate. I have not decided what my thesis will be about. Roll Eyes

So your claim to have a PHD was a lie.

I have never claimed to have a PhD, Rhino. Roll Eyes

Back to top

Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

IP Logged

Grendel

Gold Member

Offline

OzPolitic

Posts: 28080
Gender: male

Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime
Reply #193 - Mar 8^th, 2017 at 8:38am

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 7^th, 2017 at 9:39pm:

Do you need "lying by omission" explained to you, Geoff? Really? Tsk, tsk. Such a silly sausage. Roll Eyes

You have started lying about me again bwian... how pathetic of you.

I don't post the encyclopedia brittanica in every post either you fool... doesn't make me a liar and doesn't mean I lie by omission. STOP LYING BWIAN... or see a real Dr and get help.

Now this shyt...

Quote:

So, Native Born Americans commit 10% more crimes than do migrants aged 16... So, effectively, Migrants do not contribute to the crime rate as much as you're attempting to claim, Grendel. Tsk, tsk, caught lying by omission or you don't understand what you're reading.

As much as you are a lying hypocrite and as much as we all know you are I will once more shoot down your dishonesty just for the fun of it

Your claim... the title of the topic is... Immigrants Do not Increase Crime. That implies that no immigrants commit crimes, because if they did they would be adding to the crime rate.... Now I'm typing that slowly for you just in case. Grin

It has nothing to do with native born people committing crime at a bigger rate than immigrants... that's just you dishonestly building another strawman. Hence no need to post it. We all understand except YOU apparently that in any country there are more native born people than immigrants and hence there will in all probability be more native born criminals in any country. But if just 1 immigrant commits a crime then your stupid bloody argument falls to pieces. Grin

So solly.... QED.... Ipso Facto... WRONG BWIAN!!!
I know it sucks being you and believe me it sucks having to read your dishonest crap. Roll Eyes

Back to top

IP Logged

Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime Reply #194 - Mar 8^th, 2017 at 8:43am I have a thesis for your doctorate... Why can't I ever honestly and factually out debate Grendel?
Back to top	IP Logged