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Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime
Reply #75 - Feb 11^th, 2017 at 11:23pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 11:12pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 11:02pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 2:22pm:

Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime, Research Shows Cool

So... All those crimes we know too well in Europe with the mass migration would have been carried out by Europeans if the immigrants didn't? The Europeans stood aside and said, I'll let you guys do it instead?

The article is concerned exclusively with American experience of immigration. Why do people keep trying to draw conclusions based on other societies? Roll Eyes

Your OP did not distinguish. Not my fault you made a blanket claim. Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime.

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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 16520 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime Reply #78 - Feb 11^th, 2017 at 11:28pm Perhaps immigrants do not increase crime, except when they do?
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Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime
Reply #79 - Feb 11^th, 2017 at 11:51pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 8:38pm:

rhino wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 8:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 8:07pm:

rhino wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 7:58pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 7:00pm:

Trump won the majority of the vote in the majority of the electorates. Americans decided long ago they didn't want a government dictated by the most populous states having disproportionate representation in favour of their own interests.

A not astonishing or surprising thing, but ever since Trump was elected, it has confused the poo out of a lot of stupid wankers who now bleat 3 million at every opportunity as if it suddenly meant something.

yeah, and these idiots even think Americans vote directly for President. Lol. How stupid can they be?

There's not a single person in this forum who thinks that Americans vote directly for their president.

However, there are several who will bend over backwards to defend a self-confessed sexual predator accused of raping, beating and threatening to kill children.

And, of course, you're one of them.

No surprise, though.

You are just a coward behind a keyboard, buddy, a nothing with an histrionic attention seeking personality.

Not sure why you're getting so upset there, little fella.

Let's examine what I said:

"There's not a single person in this forum who thinks that Americans vote directly for their president."

Yep, that's true. Everyone understand the electoral college system.

"However, there are several who will bend over backwards to defend a self-confessed sexual predator accused of raping, beating and threatening to kill children."

Again, true.

Trump has confessed to sexually abusing women and, he is accused of raping, beating, and threatening to kill children.

Morever, there are forum members here who still support him.

"And, of course, you're one of them."

Once again, true.

You support him.

It seems that your anger has something to do with you not liking the truth.

What on earth makes you think I am angry? lol, you really are a dramatic little queen..

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Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime
Reply #80 - Feb 11^th, 2017 at 11:53pm

Setanta wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 11:23pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 11:12pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 11:02pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 2:22pm:

Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime, Research Shows Cool

So... All those crimes we know too well in Europe with the mass migration would have been carried out by Europeans if the immigrants didn't? The Europeans stood aside and said, I'll let you guys do it instead?

The article is concerned exclusively with American experience of immigration. Why do people keep trying to draw conclusions based on other societies? Roll Eyes

Your OP did not distinguish. Not my fault you made a blanket claim. Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime.

I provided a link to the article. I assumed that intelligent people would read it. Was I mistaken? It appears so. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 40938	Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime Reply #81 - Feb 11^th, 2017 at 11:54pm Setanta wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 11:28pm: Perhaps immigrants do not increase crime, except when they do? No one, thus far has presented any evidence in either direction. I pointed people towards the article in order to see the discussion. Unfortunately, the Xenophobes have failed to read it. Tsk, tsk.
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Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime
Reply #82 - Feb 12^th, 2017 at 9:04am

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 11:54pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 11:28pm:

Perhaps immigrants do not increase crime, except when they do?

No one, thus far has presented any evidence in either direction. I pointed people towards the article in order to see the discussion. Unfortunately, the Xenophobes have failed to read it. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

I have but as usual you are being an idiot. Cheesy

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Reply #83 - Feb 12^th, 2017 at 9:06am

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 11:01pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 8:14pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 6:44pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 6:14pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 4:43pm:

I actually embrace and defend my own culture - Australian culture quite well.
...

I don't need to prove to the world how much better off I am being an Australian...

Define Australian culture.

Australian culture is a multiculture, made up of its different, diverse parts created by the inhabitants of Australia. Roll Eyes

LOL.... bwian suffers from cultural cringe he doesn't believe Australia has a culture and I've never seen him defend it not even once in 15 years...

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Geoff refuses to accept reality, yet again. Australia is a Multicultural nation. QED. Roll Eyes

I'm not the one that thinks the Settlement Policy Multiculti protects gays bwian Grin

I disagree with the policy... you apparently think there is no Australian culture and you lie in order to defend the indefensible position you have taken. Cheesy

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Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime
Reply #84 - Feb 12^th, 2017 at 9:10am

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 11:02pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 8:18pm:

So bwian posted another unsubstantiated load of twaddle to back up his need for diversity? Cheesy

He doesn't like it when some real facts are brought to bear. Roll Eyes

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Facts? Where? Tsk, tsk, Geoff as usual mistakes opinion for facts. No wonder "fake news" is his favourite kind... Roll Eyes

Pull the other one bwian... you've been lying from the first day I bumped into you. fake news? ha ha ha... fake everything with you bwian...
Everyone is poking holes in your latest stupid claim/belief... no wonder you are so deluded you read crap and believe it even when it is patently and logically wrong... you are just like Hanson Grin

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Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime
Reply #85 - Feb 12^th, 2017 at 4:12pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 9:04am:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 11:54pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 11:28pm:

Perhaps immigrants do not increase crime, except when they do?

No one, thus far has presented any evidence in either direction. I pointed people towards the article in order to see the discussion. Unfortunately, the Xenophobes have failed to read it. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

I have but as usual you are being an idiot. Cheesy

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Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime
Reply #86 - Feb 12^th, 2017 at 4:13pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 9:06am:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 11:01pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 8:14pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 6:44pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 6:14pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 4:43pm:

I actually embrace and defend my own culture - Australian culture quite well.
...

I don't need to prove to the world how much better off I am being an Australian...

Define Australian culture.

Australian culture is a multiculture, made up of its different, diverse parts created by the inhabitants of Australia. Roll Eyes

LOL.... bwian suffers from cultural cringe he doesn't believe Australia has a culture and I've never seen him defend it not even once in 15 years...

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Geoff refuses to accept reality, yet again. Australia is a Multicultural nation. QED. Roll Eyes

I'm not the one that thinks the Settlement Policy Multiculti protects gays bwian Grin

I disagree with the policy... you apparently think there is no Australian culture and you lie in order to defend the indefensible position you have taken. Cheesy

Multiculturalism is more than just a "settlement programme", Geoff. Time to catch up with 21st century Australia. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime
Reply #87 - Feb 12^th, 2017 at 4:15pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 9:10am:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 11:02pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 8:18pm:

So bwian posted another unsubstantiated load of twaddle to back up his need for diversity? Cheesy

He doesn't like it when some real facts are brought to bear. Roll Eyes

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Facts? Where? Tsk, tsk, Geoff as usual mistakes opinion for facts. No wonder "fake news" is his favourite kind... Roll Eyes

Pull the other one bwian... you've been lying from the first day I bumped into you. fake news? ha ha ha... fake everything with you bwian...
Everyone is poking holes in your latest stupid claim/belief... no wonder you are so deluded you read crap and believe it even when it is patently and logically wrong... you are just like Hanson Grin

I remember you used to think the sun shone out of Pauline Hanson's arse, Geoff. You refused to accept that she was a Xenophobic racist. You fought tooth and nail against anything that showed her improper dealings with the AEC or any other person or peoples. Funny how you've now changed your tune... Tsk, tsk, such a fair weather friend, aren't you? Roll Eyes

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Reply #88 - Feb 12^th, 2017 at 6:39pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 4:13pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 9:06am:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 11:01pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 8:14pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 6:44pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 6:14pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 4:43pm:

I actually embrace and defend my own culture - Australian culture quite well.
...

I don't need to prove to the world how much better off I am being an Australian...

Define Australian culture.

Australian culture is a multiculture, made up of its different, diverse parts created by the inhabitants of Australia. Roll Eyes

LOL.... bwian suffers from cultural cringe he doesn't believe Australia has a culture and I've never seen him defend it not even once in 15 years...

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Geoff refuses to accept reality, yet again. Australia is a Multicultural nation. QED. Roll Eyes

I'm not the one that thinks the Settlement Policy Multiculti protects gays bwian Grin

I disagree with the policy... you apparently think there is no Australian culture and you lie in order to defend the indefensible position you have taken. Cheesy

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Multiculturalism is more than just a "settlement programme", Geoff. Time to catch up with 21st century Australia. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Ah no bwian you are wrong again... Multiculturalism in Australia as referred to is the Government's settlement policy that replaced Integration and before that Assimilation. It is a flawed and failing policy.

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Re: Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime
Reply #89 - Feb 12^th, 2017 at 6:44pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 4:15pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 9:10am:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 11:02pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 8:18pm:

So bwian posted another unsubstantiated load of twaddle to back up his need for diversity? Cheesy

He doesn't like it when some real facts are brought to bear. Roll Eyes

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Facts? Where? Tsk, tsk, Geoff as usual mistakes opinion for facts. No wonder "fake news" is his favourite kind... Roll Eyes

Pull the other one bwian... you've been lying from the first day I bumped into you. fake news? ha ha ha... fake everything with you bwian...
Everyone is poking holes in your latest stupid claim/belief... no wonder you are so deluded you read crap and believe it even when it is patently and logically wrong... you are just like Hanson Grin

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

I remember you used to think the sun shone out of Pauline Hanson's arse, Geoff.

Nope... never have you have a faulty memory or are lying your arse off again.

You refused to accept that she was a Xenophobic racist.

You have yet to prove she is bwian... why would a xenophobic racist employ asians and then make one manager of her shop?

You fought tooth and nail against anything that showed her improper dealings with the AEC or any other person or peoples.

You continue to make biased baseless claims bwian. She was freed and her conviction quashed.

Funny how you've now changed your tune... Tsk, tsk, such a fair weather friend, aren't you? Roll Eyes

I've never changed my tune bwian, I still think you are an obsessive, biased, disingenuous, deluded individual.

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