Forum

 
  Back to OzPolitic.com   Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register
  Forum Home Album HelpSearch Recent Rules LoginRegister  
 

Pages: 1 2 3 4 ... 9
Send Topic Print
Muhammed committed genocide (Read 8772 times)
Aussie
Gold Member
*****
Offline


OzPolitic

Posts: 38804
Gender: male
Re: Muhammed committed genocide
Reply #15 - Feb 13th, 2017 at 12:35pm
 
...
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Grendel
Gold Member
*****
Offline


OzPolitic

Posts: 28080
Gender: male
Re: Muhammed committed genocide
Reply #16 - Feb 13th, 2017 at 12:38pm
 
Behaving like bwian won't help...  here try chewing on this definition if you didn't like the last...
Quote:
Tribe, in anthropology, a notional form of human social organization based on a set of smaller groups (known as bands), having temporary or permanent political integration, and defined by traditions of common descent, language, culture, and ideology.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
Cheers....  wallow in your ignorance. Cheesy
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Aussie
Gold Member
*****
Offline


OzPolitic

Posts: 38804
Gender: male
Re: Muhammed committed genocide
Reply #17 - Feb 13th, 2017 at 12:50pm
 
...
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Grendel
Gold Member
*****
Offline


OzPolitic

Posts: 28080
Gender: male
Re: Muhammed committed genocide
Reply #18 - Feb 13th, 2017 at 1:40pm
 
Aussie wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 12:50pm:

Wassup....  shortage of oxygen?
Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
That would explain much Grin Grin Grin
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Aussie
Gold Member
*****
Offline


OzPolitic

Posts: 38804
Gender: male
Re: Muhammed committed genocide
Reply #19 - Feb 13th, 2017 at 1:44pm
 
...

mod edit: please note that henceforth these 'yawn replies' will no longer be tolerated.
Back to top
« Last Edit: Feb 13th, 2017 at 2:03pm by polite_gandalf »  
 
IP Logged
 
Grendel
Gold Member
*****
Offline


OzPolitic

Posts: 28080
Gender: male
Re: Muhammed committed genocide
Reply #20 - Feb 13th, 2017 at 1:54pm
 
Guess it must be...  you keep yawning...
Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
polite_gandalf
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 20027
Canberra
Gender: male
Re: Muhammed committed genocide
Reply #21 - Feb 13th, 2017 at 2:02pm
 
I think I'll impose a moratorium on yawning.

Please everyone desist - they will be deleted
Back to top
 

A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
Quote:
Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
IP Logged
 
Aussie
Gold Member
*****
Offline


OzPolitic

Posts: 38804
Gender: male
Re: Muhammed committed genocide
Reply #22 - Feb 13th, 2017 at 2:06pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 2:02pm:
I think I'll impose a moratorium on yawning.

Please everyone desist - they will be deleted


Fine by me.  Can you do the same for the over use of other stupid emoticons?  (Hint:  See Grendel's posts.)
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
freediver
Gold Member
*****
Online


www.ozpolitic.com

Posts: 49222
At my desk.
Re: Muhammed committed genocide
Reply #23 - Feb 13th, 2017 at 5:19pm
 
Aussie wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 9:15pm:
Geez you are a piece of work FD.  Why do you misrepresent what people post?   I guess you do because that is the only way you can appear to be advancing a stupid position.

Quote:
Perhaps Aussie thinks that "Jew" is the only thing that counts as a "group".


Why did you omit, edit out, the descriptor.....cultural from this definition I adopted:

Quote:
"the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or
cultural
group"



What makes you think I did that Aussie?

Quote:
No-one (with a brain) has tried that because they know the response will be that a tribe is part of a cultural group, not the whole group.


The "whole group" being "every Jew"?

Quote:
And definitely don't mention that Gandalf specifically said the 'mindless collective' phenomenon was not specific to the jewish tribe, or to being jew - as he is clearly dishonestly implying.


Are you saying you would racialise other groups even when not trying to justify genocide?

Quote:
The reality is, the massacre almost certainly never happened - the "account" of the massacre has clearly been lifted from another massacre of jews by Romans during the Roman occupation. It is also directly contradicted by the Quran itself - which states that only some of the military aged males were executed, while some were imprisoned. This is consistent with other sources which states that only the ring leaders were executed, and the rest were spared.


Why do you think wikipedia gets it so wrong?

Quote:
Whats interesting here though is how FD has suddenly discovered his moral compass now that he has (yet again) brought up the issue of muslims attacking jews.


Are you suggesting I never criticised your racist support for genocide before?

Quote:
but mention an alleged 1400 year old massacre of male warriors who took up arms


Previously you insisted they were slaughtered for treachery. Have you changed your mind, or simply invented a more convenient excuse? They never actually took up arms. No-one was killed until Muhammed slaughtered the entire tribe. If they actually took up arms, you would feel no need to justify the genocide by saying they were all liable for the supposed treason of a few because of the outgroup homogeneity. Bottom line is, 800 innocent people were killed, without trial, and you justify this with the most absurd racial stereotypes one can imagine, even using the alleged crimes of completely different Jewish tribes.

If only the warriors were executed, why did they check which boys had pubes in order to decide who dies? Is that how Muslims are supposed to think? Grass on the wicket, it's either time to play cricket (if it's a girl) or time to die if it's a boy?
Back to top
 

People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.
WWW  
IP Logged
 
Aussie
Gold Member
*****
Offline


OzPolitic

Posts: 38804
Gender: male
Re: Muhammed committed genocide
Reply #24 - Feb 13th, 2017 at 5:22pm
 
Quote:
The "whole group" being "every Jew"?


You can ask as many times as you like.  You'll get the same answer from me which is:

Yes.
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
freediver
Gold Member
*****
Online


www.ozpolitic.com

Posts: 49222
At my desk.
Re: Muhammed committed genocide
Reply #25 - Feb 13th, 2017 at 5:28pm
 
You seem rather fixated on Jews Aussie. Perhaps that is why you cannot see your own appeals to racism in your efforts to destroy Israel. Has it occurred to you that people can grouped in ways other than "every Jew"? Hint: look at your definition of genocide.
Back to top
 

People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.
WWW  
IP Logged
 
Aussie
Gold Member
*****
Offline


OzPolitic

Posts: 38804
Gender: male
Re: Muhammed committed genocide
Reply #26 - Feb 13th, 2017 at 5:33pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 5:28pm:
You seem rather fixated on Jews Aussie. Perhaps that is why you cannot see your own appeals to racism in your efforts to destroy Israel. Has it occurred to you that people can grouped in ways other than "every Jew"? Hint: look at your definition of genocide.


Where did I say that I seek the destruction of Israel?

What appeal to racism?  When did I ever say that people cannot be grouped in a way other than 'Jew?'

I'm sure there is a group of Methodist Lawyers.  If they were all killed, what would it be?  Genocide of Methodists?  Or a massacre/mass killing of Methodist Lawyers?
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
freediver
Gold Member
*****
Online


www.ozpolitic.com

Posts: 49222
At my desk.
Re: Muhammed committed genocide
Reply #27 - Feb 13th, 2017 at 5:37pm
 
Quote:
When did I ever say that people cannot be grouped in a way other than 'Jew?'


Here:

Aussie wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 4:06pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 4:04pm:
So it was not genocide because Muhammed did not kill every Jew on the planet?


In terms of 'my' definition, yes.


Aussie wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 6:53pm:
Quote:
genocide means killing every Jew.


That's what I said.  Do you now agree?
Back to top
 

People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.
WWW  
IP Logged
 
Aussie
Gold Member
*****
Offline


OzPolitic

Posts: 38804
Gender: male
Re: Muhammed committed genocide
Reply #28 - Feb 13th, 2017 at 5:39pm
 
Yes that is what I said within the terms of the definition of genocide I adopted.

You did not answer my 'Lawyer' question.  Too hard?
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
freediver
Gold Member
*****
Online


www.ozpolitic.com

Posts: 49222
At my desk.
Re: Muhammed committed genocide
Reply #29 - Feb 13th, 2017 at 5:56pm
 
You had no trouble identifying other ways of grouping people in the lawyer example. But in the example of Muhammed's genocide, you cannot look past the fact that they are Jewish.

Do you agree with Gandalf that they deserved to die for being a mindless collective of traitors?
Back to top
 

People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.
WWW  
IP Logged
 
Pages: 1 2 3 4 ... 9
Send Topic Print