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Unforgiven Gold Member Offline I have sinned Posts: 8879 Gender:	Re: Muhammed committed genocide Reply #60 - Feb 14^th, 2017 at 6:56pm Freediver is an Islamophobe and Muslim hate propagandist.
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Reply #61 - Feb 14^th, 2017 at 7:18pm

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You did in fact make a leap from "a national, racial, political, or cultural group" to "every Jew".

No, Effende, I made no such leap. My position has always been that what Mo allegedly did to that mob was not genocide. It was a massacre. Why do you cling to genocide? Is massacre not amped up enough for you?

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why would you make such statements about a fable if you did not even know what you were talking about?

As I said, I dunno who was innocent. Effende, can you name an innocent person Mo killed in that alleged event? Of course you can't because you know just as much as I do about it, which is SFA.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96232 Gender:	Re: Muhammed committed genocide Reply #62 - Feb 14^th, 2017 at 8:32pm Aussie, FD still hasn't answered the popular request question. He's just made more stuff up and asked more questions. Do you think you could ask him again?
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Reply #63 - Feb 14^th, 2017 at 8:37pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 8:32pm:

Aussie, FD still hasn't answered the popular request question. He's just made more stuff up and asked more questions.

Do you think you could ask him again?

Of course. Let's see ~

Effende, "Why do you have to make stuff up to try to prove this."

PS. 'Effende' ~ F

n

D...get it????

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96232 Gender:	Re: Muhammed committed genocide Reply #64 - Feb 14^th, 2017 at 8:46pm Thanks, Aussie. FD knows now that you're asking him specifically. FD can't possibly evade such a well-written question. We're all effendes here, no?
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Reply #65 - Feb 15^th, 2017 at 12:49pm

Sorry Aussie I posted this in the wrong thread before.

Aussie wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 12:11pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 10:50am:

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No, Effende, I made no such leap.

Here you go Aussie, one more time:

Aussie wrote on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 4:06pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 4:04pm:

So it was not genocide because Muhammed did not kill every Jew on the planet?

In terms of 'my' definition, yes.

How does your definition give you "every Jew"?

Genocide > extermination > every Jew. It did not happen.

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As I said, I dunno who was innocent. Effende, can you name an innocent person Mo killed in that alleged event?

The ones who were not proven guilty.

Are we talking about the same fable? There were Trials after the alleged massacre?? Who was proven not guilty? How

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Of course you can't because you know just as much as I do about it, which is SFA.

I know which incident we are talking about, which is a lot more than you.

You might be right there, Effende.

Where did you get the "> every Jew" bit from?

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Reply #66 - Feb 15^th, 2017 at 12:51pm

(a) The word exterminate.

(b) You asked if I meant every Jew, and I replied in the affirmative. That is what that definition means so far as I am concerned.

Genocide is not of a small section of a group. That is a massacre. Genocide is extermination of the entire group, in this case.....Jews.

Why don't you settle for 'massacre?'

PS ~ Read your PM. I wish to know what the ferk AiA is openly blathering about. Vic advised me to ask you.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49241 At my desk.	Re: Muhammed committed genocide Reply #67 - Feb 15^th, 2017 at 1:02pm Quote: The word exterminate. What makes you think "Jew" when you hear the word exterminate? Quote: That is what that definition means so far as I am concerned. The definition says nothing about Jews. Is there a thought process going on here, or is your though process more like free association?
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Reply #68 - Feb 15^th, 2017 at 1:10pm

freediver wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 1:02pm:

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The word exterminate.

What makes you think "Jew" when you hear the word exterminate?

Does this fable not involve an alleged massacre of a mob who happened to be Jews?

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That is what that definition means so far as I am concerned.

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The definition says nothing about Jews. Is there a thought process going on here, or is your though process more like free association?

Of course it doesn't. As ought be obvious, I was applying the definition to the circumstances of the fable. Are we talking about the same one, Effende?

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Reply #69 - Feb 15^th, 2017 at 1:16pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 12:51pm:

(a) The word exterminate.

(b) You asked if I meant every Jew, and I replied in the affirmative. That is what that definition means so far as I am concerned.

Genocide is not of a small section of a group. That is a massacre. Genocide is extermination of the entire group, in this case.....Jews.

Why don't you settle for 'massacre?'

PS ~ Read your PM. I wish to know what the ferk AiA is openly blathering about. Vic advised me to ask you.

Not necessarily, abos claim genocide all the time, there are more now that there ever was.

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Reply #70 - Feb 15^th, 2017 at 1:22pm

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 1:16pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 12:51pm:

(a) The word exterminate.

(b) You asked if I meant every Jew, and I replied in the affirmative. That is what that definition means so far as I am concerned.

Genocide is not of a small section of a group. That is a massacre. Genocide is extermination of the entire group, in this case.....Jews.

Why don't you settle for 'massacre?'

PS ~ Read your PM. I wish to know what the ferk AiA is openly blathering about. Vic advised me to ask you.

Not necessarily, abos claim genocide all the time, there are more now that there ever was.

I'm surprised that analogy was not raised earlier. I was expecting it.

There was no genocide of Australian aboriginals. That is self evident. There were many massacres.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49241 At my desk.	Re: Muhammed committed genocide Reply #71 - Feb 15^th, 2017 at 1:36pm Quote: Does this fable not involve an alleged massacre of a mob who happened to be Jews? They "happened" to be many things. What makes you only see that they were Jews? I have only asked you this a dozen times already Aussie.
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Reply #72 - Feb 15^th, 2017 at 1:43pm

freediver wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 1:36pm:

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Does this fable not involve an alleged massacre of a mob who happened to be Jews?

They "happened" to be many things. What makes you only see that they were Jews? I have only asked you this a dozen times already Aussie.

What crowd was it whom you reckon Mo committed genocide upon, Effende? Were they a mob of Methodists, Baptists, Hindus etc etc etc ~ or Jews?

Isn't that your entire point, that the nasty Mo slaughtered some '800' people who happened to be Jews? Isn't that the fable we are discussing?

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Reply #73 - Feb 15^th, 2017 at 1:48pm

Your words in the OP, Effende:

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Basically, Gandalf happily insists that an entire tribe slaughtered by Muhammed were a mindless collective of traitors, with no individuality, their personality defined by the tribe they belong to. Just don't mention the fact that they were

Jewish

- you would only do that if you wanted to make Muslims look bad. This is why Muhammed had to kill all 800 of the tribe's men in a single day. That, and because racism was a way of gaining political power (which makes Muhammed completely different from modern racists like Hitler). Muhammed had already evicted two of the three large tribes of

Jews

that had originally invited him into Medina and could not trust them (tribes of

Jews

) to be nice and respectful to him if he evicted the third.

At this point, Gandalf retreated to nonsensical gibberish. So Aussie stepped in to defend Gandalf by insisting that Muhammed's slaughter of an entire tribe was not in fact genocide

Effende, a further question by popular request ~ "Does the cat have your tongue tongue?"

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49241 At my desk.	Re: Muhammed committed genocide Reply #74 - Feb 15^th, 2017 at 1:55pm Quote: What crowd was it whom you reckon Mo committed genocide upon, Effende? Were they a mob of Methodists, Baptists, Hindus etc etc etc ~ or Jews? The Banu Qurayza. I never claimed he exterminated all Jews.
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