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Reply #90 - Feb 15th, 2017 at 5:07pm
 
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Your definition says that slaughtering a political group is genocide. It also says nothing at all about motivation for genocide.


Not at all Effendi.  That is your definition.  Have you read your own Thread title?

Have you not noticed that I have consistently posted that there was no genocide, Effendi?
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Reply #91 - Feb 15th, 2017 at 5:30pm
 
Aussie wrote on Feb 15th, 2017 at 5:07pm:
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Your definition says that slaughtering a political group is genocide. It also says nothing at all about motivation for genocide.


Not at all Effendi.  That is your definition.  Have you read your own Thread title?

Have you not noticed that I have consistently posted that there was no genocide, Effendi?


Maybe you could ask FD what his definition is, Aussie. He's not taking other questions.

Make sure not to quote Wikipedia, FD. You know how it tends to say the opposite of your own arguments.
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Reply #92 - Feb 15th, 2017 at 5:34pm
 
Karnal wrote on Feb 15th, 2017 at 5:30pm:
Aussie wrote on Feb 15th, 2017 at 5:07pm:
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Your definition says that slaughtering a political group is genocide. It also says nothing at all about motivation for genocide.


Not at all Effendi.  That is your definition.  Have you read your own Thread title?

Have you not noticed that I have consistently posted that there was no genocide, Effendi?


Maybe you could ask FD what his definition is, Aussie. He's not taking other questions.

Make sure not to quote Wikipedia, FD. You know how it tends to say the opposite of your own arguments.


Effendi does not answer questions, do you Effendi?

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Reply #93 - Feb 15th, 2017 at 5:39pm
 
Aussie wrote on Feb 15th, 2017 at 5:34pm:
Karnal wrote on Feb 15th, 2017 at 5:30pm:
Aussie wrote on Feb 15th, 2017 at 5:07pm:
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Your definition says that slaughtering a political group is genocide. It also says nothing at all about motivation for genocide.


Not at all Effendi.  That is your definition.  Have you read your own Thread title?

Have you not noticed that I have consistently posted that there was no genocide, Effendi?


Maybe you could ask FD what his definition is, Aussie. He's not taking other questions.

Make sure not to quote Wikipedia, FD. You know how it tends to say the opposite of your own arguments.


Effendi does not answer questions, do you Effendi?

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Let's ask him.

FD, do you answer questions?

A simple yes or no will suffice.
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Reply #94 - Feb 15th, 2017 at 6:07pm
 
Aussie wrote on Feb 15th, 2017 at 5:07pm:
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Your definition says that slaughtering a political group is genocide. It also says nothing at all about motivation for genocide.


Not at all Effendi.  That is your definition. 


You still haven't read it have you Aussie?

Aussie wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 3:45pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 3:05pm:
Ah. So the holocaust was not genocide because some got away?


In terms of my definition of 'genocide,' which is:  "the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group" ~ correct.


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Reply #95 - Feb 15th, 2017 at 6:12pm
 
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Muhammed committed genocide


Not genocide, Effendi.  Simple as that.

If it happened at all, it was a massacre.
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Reply #96 - Feb 15th, 2017 at 6:18pm
 
Whose definition is this, referring directly to a political group for the purpose of defining genocide?

Aussie wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 3:45pm:
In terms of my definition of 'genocide,' which is:  "the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group" ~ correct.


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'Exterminate' in the context of this discussion and my definition means the slaughter every Jew.  (Remember? You asked, and I responded.)  I.e., genocide.  To slaughter a Tribe of people (for reasons not associated with their faith.......and, by happenstance, they were Jews) but for alleged political reasons, is a massacre.


Where does the definition say anything at all about the motive for genocide Aussie?
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Reply #97 - Feb 15th, 2017 at 6:59pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 15th, 2017 at 6:18pm:
Whose definition is this, referring directly to a political group for the purpose of defining genocide?

Aussie wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 3:45pm:
In terms of my definition of 'genocide,' which is:  "the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group" ~ correct.


Mine.  See how easy that is?


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'Exterminate' in the context of this discussion and my definition means the slaughter every Jew.  (Remember? You asked, and I responded.)  I.e., genocide.  To slaughter a Tribe of people (for reasons not associated with their faith.......and, by happenstance, they were Jews) but for alleged political reasons, is a massacre.


Where does the definition say anything at all about the motive for genocide Aussie?

It doesn't.  See how easy that was, Effendi?


Questions are easy to answer if you are not trying to be a smart arse, Effendi.

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Reply #98 - Feb 15th, 2017 at 8:05pm
 
Aussie wrote on Feb 15th, 2017 at 5:07pm:
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Your definition says that slaughtering a political group is genocide. It also says nothing at all about motivation for genocide.


Not at all Effendi.  That is your definition. 


What definition are you referring to here Aussie?

And why are you denying that your own definition refers to genocide?
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Reply #99 - Feb 15th, 2017 at 8:06pm
 
Aussie wrote on Feb 15th, 2017 at 6:59pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 15th, 2017 at 6:18pm:
Whose definition is this, referring directly to a political group for the purpose of defining genocide?

Aussie wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 3:45pm:
In terms of my definition of 'genocide,' which is:  "the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group" ~ correct.


Mine.  See how easy that is?


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'Exterminate' in the context of this discussion and my definition means the slaughter every Jew.  (Remember? You asked, and I responded.)  I.e., genocide.  To slaughter a Tribe of people (for reasons not associated with their faith.......and, by happenstance, they were Jews) but for alleged political reasons, is a massacre.


Where does the definition say anything at all about the motive for genocide Aussie?

It doesn't.  See how easy that was, Effendi?


Questions are easy to answer if you are not trying to be a smart arse, Effendi.

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FD won't say whether he answers questions, Aussie.

I guess we'll never know.
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Reply #100 - Feb 15th, 2017 at 8:09pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 15th, 2017 at 8:05pm:
Aussie wrote on Feb 15th, 2017 at 5:07pm:
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Your definition says that slaughtering a political group is genocide. It also says nothing at all about motivation for genocide.


Not at all Effendi.  That is your definition. 


What definition are you referring to here Aussie?

As best as I can answer that ~ this one, Effendi.

"Muhammed committed genocide"

See.....that's how you answer a question, Effendi.




And why are you denying that your own definition refers to genocide?

That's cute Effendi.  I am not denying it.  I am affirming it.

See Effendi.....it is so easy to answer a question.  You really ought to try it.


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Reply #101 - Feb 15th, 2017 at 8:19pm
 
I meant, why are you denying that your own definition refers to political groups?

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As best as I can answer that ~ this one, Effendi.

"Muhammed committed genocide"


You think that is a definition of genocide?
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Reply #102 - Feb 15th, 2017 at 8:59pm
 
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I meant, why are you denying that your own definition refers to political groups?


No need to deny, Effendi.  My 'own' definition does not refer to any political group.


See, that's how you answer a question, Effendi.  You really must try it some time soon.  Nothing to be afraid of.  As Karnal says, we are all friends here, no?


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You think that is a definition of genocide?


Not really, but it's the only one you have indirectly offered so far.


See, that's how you answer a question, Effendi.  You really must try it some time soon.  Nothing to be afraid of.  As Karnal says, we are all friends here, no?




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Reply #103 - Feb 15th, 2017 at 9:15pm
 
Let's sort this out once and for all. Let's ask FD for his definition of genocide.

Oh, I did. FD wouldn't say.

Aussie, what do you think FD's definition is?

Oh - you already said. Did FD disagree with your definition of his definition? It's a bit hard to tell.
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Reply #104 - Feb 15th, 2017 at 9:29pm
 
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No need to deny, Effendi.  My 'own' definition does not refer to any political group.


One more time for Aussie:

Aussie wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 3:45pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 3:05pm:
Ah. So the holocaust was not genocide because some got away?


In terms of my definition of 'genocide,' which is:  "the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group" ~ correct.


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