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Treasurer Threatens To Increase Taxes
Feb 15^th, 2017 at 6:54am

Treasurer threatens tax hike to fund NDIS
February 15, 2017
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Treasurer Scott Morrison has threatened to increase taxes if a raft of welfare cuts worth billions of dollars are blocked by the Senate. Huh

The government expected to generate $5.6 billion in savings through its welfare omnibus bill - which appears certain to fail - earmarking $1.6 billion for childcare fee subsidies and the remaining $4 billion for the National Disability Insurance Scheme.

"If you don't fund it (the NDIS) by getting welfare under control, you've got two other options, increase taxes or increase debt," Mr Morrison told News Corp.

Labor, the Greens, the Nick Xenophon Team and Jacqui Lambie have all signalled they will reject the bill, leaving only One Nation in favour.

The treasurer said price fluctuations meant the government could not rely on a spike in iron ore revenues to bankroll spending and achieve structural change.

"If the parliament is going to insist that the government spend more and more money, particularly on welfare, then someone has to pay for that." he told Sky News Business on Tuesday.

There were only two options to do so, and finding savings was the government's first preference.

"But if you don't do that, you've either got to have higher debt - which is a tax on your children - or you have to do it with other revenue measures.

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Reply #1 - Feb 15^th, 2017 at 7:20am

Perhaps they simply need to look at
1) Excessive and continued donations overseas.
2) Serious reduction or better still removal of politician and senior public service asset test free pensions.
3) Taxing multinationals, Business and mega rich fairly and equally with the taxpayer.
4) Reigning in expenditure on stupid things and fringe group benefits.
5) Reducing politician and public service numbers, we are far far over the top, look out Greece, here we come.

But what is their cure.........?

TAX THE TAXPAYER MORE, YEAH RIGHT.

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whiteknight Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8068 melbourne Gender:	Re: Treasurer Threatens To Increase Taxes Reply #2 - Feb 15^th, 2017 at 7:24am We don't want the senate to become an automatic rubber stamp. For the coalition, or labor.
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Reply #3 - Feb 15^th, 2017 at 7:47am

There is a massive problem with the "senate".

In order for the herd to prosper, the alpha male at the top has to be able to decide on herd policy and the beta's have to be forced into line (for their own good).

the betas (essentially sheep) are under constant threat from the wolves and the alpha needs the freedom to do what is necessary to keep the wolves away.

But the senate are a corrupting influence on this time honoured and tested system.

the senate , by interefering in "natural law" put the sheep at risk.

for example, by not allowing alpha male Scott Morrison to run the paddock correctly, the "wolves" (in this case asian businesses) are slowly eating the sheep.

The wolves are buying the pasture from under the noses of the sheep, who will be relegated to poorer and poorer pastures. Whilst the wolves live on prime pasture in inner sydney, the sheep will be forced out to dry paddocks in western sydney and they will be slave labour to the new alphas, that scott could not keep at bay.

So the senate , is actively working against the interests of Scott but in doing so, is actively seeing the sheep get cheered off the cliff.

its time the sheep woke up and told the senate to leave it to scott. but they are sheep, so this wont happen.

poor scott...he wants to protect them but he cant. i guess they'll just have to die of starvation

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whiteknight Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8068 melbourne Gender:	Re: Treasurer Threatens To Increase Taxes Reply #4 - Feb 15^th, 2017 at 7:52am Labor, the Greens, the Nick Xenophon Team and Jacqui Lambie have all signalled they will reject the bill. Thank heavens for these good people in the senate.
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Dsmithy70 Gold Member Offline ire futuis vobismetipsis Posts: 13147 Newy Gender:	Re: Treasurer Threatens To Increase Taxes Reply #5 - Feb 15^th, 2017 at 7:54am Only a true C@#t would pit those on welfare against those with a disability.
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Reply #6 - Feb 15^th, 2017 at 7:56am

whiteknight wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 7:52am:

Labor, the Greens, the Nick Xenophon Team and Jacqui Lambie have all signalled they will reject the bill. Thank heavens for these good people in the senate.

Umm, it's $5.6 billion in welfare payments that are going to people who do not qualify for it. How is cutting those people off a bad thing? You can't have your cake and eat it. It's either cutting off payments to people who shouldn't even be receiving them or taxes are raised. Labor's unfunded NDIS has to be paid for somehow, so you decide how.

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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25869 Gender:	Re: Treasurer Threatens To Increase Taxes Reply #7 - Feb 15^th, 2017 at 7:57am Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 7:54am: Only a true C@#t would pit those on welfare against those with a disability. So you have no problem with people receiving taxpayer-funded benefits when they do not qualify for them and should not be receiving them?
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74342 Gender:	Re: Treasurer Threatens To Increase Taxes Reply #8 - Feb 15^th, 2017 at 7:59am Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 7:56am: Umm, it's $5.6 billion in welfare payments that are going to people who do not qualify for it. what a load of rubbish. If they didn't qualify for it they wouldn't be getting it you fool.
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Reply #9 - Feb 15^th, 2017 at 8:01am

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 7:54am:

Only a true C@#t would pit those on welfare against those with a disability.

I agree Smithy....If the private health care rebate, superannuation concessions, negative gearing and capitol gains tax where all reigned in as the ALP proposed their would be no funding shortfall for the NDIS....The priority for the LNP is being re elected not looking after the disabled who do not vote for them!!!

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Reply #10 - Feb 15^th, 2017 at 8:01am

John Smith wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 7:59am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 7:56am:

Umm, it's $5.6 billion in welfare payments that are going to people who do not qualify for it.

what a load of rubbish. If they didn't qualify for it they wouldn't be getting it you fool.

Oh you poor misguided fool. You really have no idea how easy it is to dupe the system, do you?

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Reply #11 - Feb 15^th, 2017 at 8:02am

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 8:01am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 7:54am:

Only a true C@#t would pit those on welfare against those with a disability.

I agree Smithy....If the private health care rebate, superannuation concessions, negative gearing and capitol gains tax where all reigned in as the ALP proposed their would be no funding shortfall for the NDIS....The priority for the LNP is being re elected not looking after the disabled who do not vote for them!!!

Angry

If you lower or axe the private health care rebate, then you will increase pressure on the public system. Better to pay a little to have people in private health care than to pay a lot for more people to use the public system.

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Reply #12 - Feb 15^th, 2017 at 8:03am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 8:01am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 7:59am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 7:56am:

Umm, it's $5.6 billion in welfare payments that are going to people who do not qualify for it.

what a load of rubbish. If they didn't qualify for it they wouldn't be getting it you fool.

Oh you poor misguided fool. You really have no idea how easy it is to dupe the system, do you?

I have a very good idea how easy it is to dupe you

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74342 Gender:	Re: Treasurer Threatens To Increase Taxes Reply #13 - Feb 15^th, 2017 at 8:04am Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 8:02am: If you lower or axe the private health care rebate, then you will increase pressure on the public system bulls1t. Thats the private health industries and libs scare tactics, with little basis on truth
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Reply #14 - Feb 15^th, 2017 at 8:07am

John Smith wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 8:04am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 8:02am:

If you lower or axe the private health care rebate, then you will increase pressure on the public system

bulls1t. Thats the private health industries and libs scare tactics, with little basis on truth

Let me dumb it down for you, dumb-dumb. If you lower the rebate, private health insurers will have no choice other than to increase fees because contrary to your erroneous beliefs, medical care costs a lot of money. So when the fees for private health care rise, many who can only just afford it will be forced back onto the public health system, putting further pressure on it. This will also lead to a decrease in the level of healthcare for patients as they endure longer wait times.

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