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ISLAMICS want to behead Jacqui Lambie
Feb 16^th, 2017 at 10:11am

Is Jacqui holed up surrounded by barbed wire ?

Jacqui sure doesn't mince words!!!! When will she join Pauline ?

Muslim community members demand apology from ABC over Q&A debate
By Ben Winsor 15 FEB 2017 - 9:18 AM UPDATED YESTERDAY 9:34 AM

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Senator Jacqui Lambie's comments were 'racist, Islamophobic and crude', an online petition states.

Muslim community members are demanding an apology from the ABC over a heated debate on Monday's Q&A episode, which saw a shouting match over Sharia law between Tasmanian Senator Jacqui Lambie and youth activist Yassmin Abdel-Magied.

"We demand an apology from Q&A for its poor handling of the debate and for its failure to uphold its values of respect and integrity," an online petition reads.

It appears Ms Abdel-Magied has not publicly endorsed the petition or asked for an apology, and could not be reached for comment at the time of publication.

The petition has been signed by the Australian Islamic Mission, La Trobe University Islamic Society and numerous members of the Muslim community.

"Lambie used undignifying, demeaning slurs that were personal attacks against Abdel-Magied and her integrity as a Muslim woman," the petition reads.

"We wish to remind Q&A that Yassmin’s appearance in itself is brave as it puts her in danger of being a target to online fascists who are relentless in attacking public Muslim Australian figures, and particularly Muslim females."

The petition said the program breached its stated aim to provide a "safe environment" where people can "respectfully" discuss their differences.

Debate between Senator Lambie and Ms Abdel-Magied reached its peak over Sharia law.

“The fact is, we have one law in this country and it is the Australian law – it is not Sharia law, not in this country, not in my day” Senator Lambie said, drawing applause.

“In Sharia it says you follow the law of the land you are on,” Ms Abdel-Magied said.

As the pair shouted over each other, Senator Lambie demanded an answer to why women are treated like second class citizens, and “why gays are killed”.

“That is not my religion,” Ms Abdel-Magied said, as Q&A host Tony Jones intervened.

“Can I just say that shouting at each other is not going to help – so please stop,” he said.

Ms Abdel-Magied followed up her appearance with a video for an online news organisation explaining what Sharia law is.

"Sharia is not a system of laws like Australia’s legal system is a series of laws that everybody must obey - Sharia is about a Muslim's personal relationship with their god," Ms Abdel-Magied said.

Sharia law is not a parallel legal system, she said.

“But the majority want to feel safe, be safe," she said.

“Stop playing the victim, we’ve had enough ... Your ban got lifted, get over it – it hasn’t hurt you at all.”

The petition characterised Senator Lambie's comments as "racist, Islamophobic and crude".

"If Q&A wants to invite Muslim individuals to its forum, it should be able to guarantee a safe environment," the petition states.

The ABC could not be reached for comment at the time of publication.

At 9am Wednesday morning, the petition had more than 900 supporters.

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2017/02/15/muslim-community-members-demand-ap...

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Reply #2 - Feb 16^th, 2017 at 10:29am

Sharia law has absolutely no place in this country. None whatsoever. I don't have any problem with Muslims practising Islam, Jews practising Judaism, Buddhists practising Buddhism and so on. But there is only one law in this country. It's the one everyone must abide by and be judged by. It's as simple as that. If people want to practice their own religion, that's fine. But no man has the right to beat his wife because she was seen with another man who is not a relative, for example. Once we start down the path of accepting certain aspects of religious laws then our social fabric will start to fall apart.

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Reply #3 - Feb 16^th, 2017 at 10:36am

ARMChair,

that dark woman on the ABC was ducking and weaving because she was dead scared that if she seemed to agree with Jacqui she might be punished when she returned home.

Jacqui had her pinned to the wall as Jacqui regaled the barbarous acts that are regarded as normal by the Devil Worshiping ISLAMIC Heathen Barbarians.

where are all those woman's rights campaigners ? why don't they come down on the ISLAMIC barbarians like a ton of bricks ?

Horsey, read between the lines.

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Reply #4 - Feb 16^th, 2017 at 11:57am

I think Sharia means path to enlightenment - finding the water path. I do not think there is actually a country in the world that based their criminal and civil justice purely on Shara alone. But, if you are a muslim, you usually follow the sharia. Which for most people, its about praying 5 times a day, what food to eat, etc

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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: ISLAMICS want to behead Jacqui Lambie Reply #5 - Feb 16^th, 2017 at 11:58am I watched this episode of Q&A and it was the Muslim woman who was being aggressive and spoiling for an argument. Lambie only fired back after this nutter went ballistic at her. Just watch the video. I'm still trying to work out what it was that Lambie said was offensive?
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Reply #6 - Feb 16^th, 2017 at 12:00pm

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 11:57am:

I think Sharia means path to enlightenment - finding the water path. I do not think there is actually a country in the world that based their criminal and civil justice purely on Shara alone. But, if you are a muslim, you usually follow the sharia. Which for most people, its about praying 5 times a day, what food to eat, etc

It's got multiple meanings and interpretations tickle. Everything thing from peaceful insight to barbaric law enforcement.

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Reply #7 - Feb 16^th, 2017 at 12:20pm

The Sharia "Law" crap can only exist while people are uneducated and unable to see what a total farce it is.

That's why in those primitive barbaric ISLAMIC countries they don't like education.

If Jacqui visited Syria etc she would be beheaded as a fowl female before you can say Jack Robinson. Even if she wore a burka.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: ISLAMICS want to behead Jacqui Lambie Reply #8 - Feb 16^th, 2017 at 1:01pm Lambie is nearly always crude... she is more than Likely Islamophobic, even though it seems she would rather kill Muslims than fear them but I don't recall her making a racist remark about Islam... which would be hard to do, because Islam is NOT A RACE.
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Reply #9 - Feb 16^th, 2017 at 1:23pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 12:00pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 11:57am:

I think Sharia means path to enlightenment - finding the water path. I do not think there is actually a country in the world that based their criminal and civil justice purely on Shara alone. But, if you are a muslim, you usually follow the sharia. Which for most people, its about praying 5 times a day, what food to eat, etc

It's got multiple meanings and interpretations tickle. Everything thing from peaceful insight to barbaric law enforcement.

The problem is that Jacqui Lambie is projecting the fear that at all Muslims want those barbaric sharia law in Australia. This is far from the truth. First, it is almost impossible, because Australia have seperation of religion and state. Second, most muslims here wants to get away from those crule barbaric so called law enforcement. Third, when there are calls for Sharia law in Australia, the caller is probably referring to the peaceful insights.

Jacqui Lambie is a senator. And she have the first hand experience on passing laws and motions. She knows... better than any of us non politician, how hard is to pass legislations and change law. Just look at marriage equality, it took forever, and still nothing is done. So do you think passing Sharia law is going to be a) impossible, or b) easy.

So, why is Jacqui Lambie so against it? One answer. She is using the fear tactic on a population too lazy to think the deeper and the bigger picture.

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Reply #10 - Feb 16^th, 2017 at 1:41pm

I wasnt the only one to get a laugh it seems, comedy gold.
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Islam, the most feminist religion? Oh, come on
But it was an exchange between Tasmanian independent senator Jacqui Lambie and brightly-hijab’ed author/activist Yassmin Abdel-Magied that really brought down the house.

Riffing on the old standard “How do you solve a problem like sharia?”, Lambie suggested that Australia’s primary obligations welfare-wise ought to be those who already live here, adding for good measure that those who would rather live by the lights of a theocratic legal code would probably be better off living somewhere else.

“Excuse me, Islam, to me, is one of the most... is THE most feminist religion, right?”, Abdel-Magied jumped in.

“We got equal rights well before the Europeans. We don’t take our husband’s last names because we ain’t their property, right?”

Right.

You could almost hear the viewing audience choking with laughter, even in the darkest heart of our cities’ latte belts.

Because while Islam might be many things, in suggesting that of all the faiths practised around the world it is “the most feminist religion”, Abdel-Magied delivered a comic line destined straight for the pool room.
Amazingly, Abdel-Magied was able to make her statement on Q&A with a straight face even after having taken a taxpayer-funded tour of some of the world’s most anti-feminist Islamic regimes including Saudi Arabia (where women can’t even drive), the United Arab Emirates, and Sudan.

Jacqui Lambie wasn’t having a bar of it. (Pic: Q&A)
No word as to whether, while on her trip, Abdel-Magied told the local religious authorities that they have got their theology all wrong and that lashings and stonings for the crime of adultery is not actually true sharia.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/rendezview/islam-the-most-feminist-religion-oh-...

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Reply #11 - Feb 16^th, 2017 at 1:48pm

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 1:23pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 12:00pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 11:57am:

I think Sharia means path to enlightenment - finding the water path. I do not think there is actually a country in the world that based their criminal and civil justice purely on Shara alone. But, if you are a muslim, you usually follow the sharia. Which for most people, its about praying 5 times a day, what food to eat, etc

It's got multiple meanings and interpretations tickle. Everything thing from peaceful insight to barbaric law enforcement.

The problem is that Jacqui Lambie is projecting the fear that at all Muslims want those barbaric sharia law in Australia. This is far from the truth. First, it is almost impossible, because Australia have seperation of religion and state. Second, most muslims here wants to get away from those crule barbaric so called law enforcement. Third, when there are calls for Sharia law in Australia, the caller is probably referring to the peaceful insights.

Jacqui Lambie is a senator. And she have the first hand experience on passing laws and motions. She knows... better than any of us non politician, how hard is to pass legislations and change law. Just look at marriage equality, it took forever, and still nothing is done. So do you think passing Sharia law is going to be a) impossible, or b) easy.

So, why is Jacqui Lambie so against it? One answer. She is using the fear tactic on a population too lazy to think the deeper and the bigger picture.

In the UK they have Sharia courts and even here some Muslims have been calling for parts of it to be put in here. When a country has parallel laws it sends a bad message. That was the whole crux to what Lambie was saying- one law for everybody.

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Reply #12 - Feb 16^th, 2017 at 2:26pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 1:48pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 1:23pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 12:00pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 11:57am:

I think Sharia means path to enlightenment - finding the water path. I do not think there is actually a country in the world that based their criminal and civil justice purely on Shara alone. But, if you are a muslim, you usually follow the sharia. Which for most people, its about praying 5 times a day, what food to eat, etc

It's got multiple meanings and interpretations tickle. Everything thing from peaceful insight to barbaric law enforcement.

The problem is that Jacqui Lambie is projecting the fear that at all Muslims want those barbaric sharia law in Australia. This is far from the truth. First, it is almost impossible, because Australia have seperation of religion and state. Second, most muslims here wants to get away from those crule barbaric so called law enforcement. Third, when there are calls for Sharia law in Australia, the caller is probably referring to the peaceful insights.

Jacqui Lambie is a senator. And she have the first hand experience on passing laws and motions. She knows... better than any of us non politician, how hard is to pass legislations and change law. Just look at marriage equality, it took forever, and still nothing is done. So do you think passing Sharia law is going to be a) impossible, or b) easy.

So, why is Jacqui Lambie so against it? One answer. She is using the fear tactic on a population too lazy to think the deeper and the bigger picture.

In the UK they have Sharia courts and even here some Muslims have been calling for parts of it to be put in here. When a country has parallel laws it sends a bad message. That was the whole crux to what Lambie was saying- one law for everybody.

Mr Hammer, in UK, the sharia courts are developed to deal with civil matters, and it is does not include brutal criminal codes that people are lead to believe. It is no different to the arbitration process that we have already. And both parties have to be happy about it. People equate stoning and beheading with sharia law, because the word 'Sharia', which for many people it sounded foreign.

Any way, my position is that I am neither for or against a Sharia civil system, but when it comes to legal binding decisions, or criminal laws, it must be well thought out, debated and free from religious influence. My opposition is to Jacqui Lambie for using a non issue (e.g. its impossible Australia to have Sharia law in all of its courts) as a fear tactic to gain votes and supporters. And i hope that those on the right of the politics would see through that.

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Reply #13 - Feb 16^th, 2017 at 3:23pm

juliar wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 10:11am:

Is Jacqui holed up surrounded by barbed wire ?

Muslim community members are demanding an apology from the ABC over a heated debate on Monday's Q&A episode, which saw a shouting match over Sharia law between Tasmanian Senator Jacqui Lambie and youth activist Yassmin Abdel-Magied.[/b]

Debate between Senator Lambie and Ms Abdel-Magied reached its peak over Sharia law.

“The fact is, we have one law in this country and it is the Australian law – it is not Sharia law, not in this country, not in my day” Senator Lambie said, drawing applause.

LIE #1,

“In Sharia it says you follow the law of the land you are on,” Ms Abdel-Magied said.

As the pair shouted over each other, Senator Lambie demanded an answer to why women are treated like second class citizens, and “why gays are killed”.

LIE #2,

“That is not my religion,” Ms Abdel-Magied said,

as Q&A host Tony Jones intervened.

I do not know how much Yassmin Abdel-Magied knows about,    HER OWN RELIGION......

......but she is either extremely ignorant about what ISLAMIC law and ISLAMIC doctrines allow and prohibit,    OR SHE IS A BIG FAT LIAR.

LIE #1;
"In Sharia it says you follow the law of the land you are on"    This is a LIE, a deceit !!!!!!!!!!!

If that statement by Yassmin Abdel-Magied is correct,
then someone please show me an authoritative quote from an ISLAMIC cleric which    explicitly    states that the moslem living with a secular nation must obey local law, ABOVE Sharia law.

[I know that Sharia DOES NOT SAY THAT. Not even close.]

What WE [non-moslems] are told,    is that moslem, living within a secular jurisdiction, is instructed by ISLAM, that;
"The moslem should obey the laws of the land in which they are resident".

But the religious dictate to the moslem community is actually this;
"1/The moslem should obey the laws of the land in which they are resident,
2/ whenever the local secular laws do not clash with Allah's law."

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LIE #2,
“why gays are killed”

“That is not my religion,” Ms Abdel-Magied said,......    This is a LIE, a deceit !!!!!!!!!!!

Google;
If you find anyone doing as Lot's people did, kill the one who does it

Google;
Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Lot, execute the one who does it

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Abu Dawud’s authoritative hadith collection records a report from Abdullah ibn Abbas:

The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: If you find anyone doing as Lot’s people did, kill the one who does it, and the one to whom it is done (38:4447).

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QUESTION;
Is it only legitimate to have a "phobia" about moslems, AFTER they throw you off a roof?

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Reply #14 - Feb 16^th, 2017 at 3:33pm

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 11:57am:

I think Sharia means path to enlightenment - finding the water path. I do not think there is actually a country in the world that based their criminal and civil justice purely on Shara alone. But, if you are a muslim, you usually follow the sharia. Which for most people, its about praying 5 times a day, what food to eat, etc

LIAR.

The authority to kill apostates, is Sharia law.

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."

- DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

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I think Sharia is a complete crock.

Especially for women.

Yadda said....
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THE 'RIGHTS'(?) OF WOMEN IN ISLAM e.g. #1

The Koran [Allah] instructs moslems to beat disobedient wives, but ever so lightly.

And you know, don't you, that moslem men do beat their wives,...ever so lightly.

"Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all)."
Koran 4.034

Actually, i have read somewhere, that the 'clarifying' insertion "(lightly)", DOES NOT APPEAR IN THE ARABIC KORAN.

And that this 'insertion' is [has been] added in some English translations of the Koran - to mislead those readers of the English translation of the Koran, one can only assume.

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THE 'RIGHTS'(?) OF WOMEN IN ISLAM e.g. #2

IMO, within ISLAM, women have the status of cattle or 'fields'.

The Koran [i.e. Allah] states that the woman, the wife, has the status of a field [of earth, 'tilth'].

And her husband may use her [plough her] as he wishes ['how ye will'].

And remember that every word in the Koran, has the sanctity of coming directly from Allah himself.

And remember also, that Allah is never wrong, mistaken.

"Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will; but do some good act for your souls beforehand; and fear Allah. And know that ye are to meet Him (in the Hereafter), and give (these) good tidings to those who believe."
Koran 2.223

Dictionary;
tilth = = cultivation of land; tillage.

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THE 'RIGHTS'(?) OF WOMEN IN ISLAM e.g. #3

Under ISLAMIC inheritance law.
Any daughter receives 1/2 the entitlement of any male heir.
e.g.
Where there is a son, and a daughter, to inherit an estate.
The estate is divided into 3 parts.
The son receives 2 parts.
The daughter receives 1 part.

"Allah (thus) directs you as regards your Children's (Inheritance): to the male, a portion equal to that of two females: if only daughters, two or more, their share is two-thirds of the inheritance; if only one, her share is a half...."
Koran 4.11

Yup.

ISLAMIC law, progressive, and ahead of its time. Tongue

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