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Reply #15 - Feb 20^th, 2017 at 2:24pm

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The real issue is: What are muslims going to do about those segments of sharia law which can only be described as utterly degenerate retardation, which has no place in a modern civilized 21st century world?

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They'll probably do what all the Muslims I know are doing right now - ignoring them.

Well kiss a black rock and call me the moon god allah.

I wonder what causes all the: beheading, stoning, amputations, burning them alive, jihadists, honour killings, female genital mutilation, forced child marriage, blaming then killing the female who has been raped, killing apostates, killing the homosexuals, killing the blasphemers, etc. etc. etc.?

It's got nuffin to do wif islam.

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Reply #16 - Feb 20^th, 2017 at 2:28pm

moses wrote on Feb 20^th, 2017 at 2:24pm:

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The real issue is: What are muslims going to do about those segments of sharia law which can only be described as utterly degenerate retardation, which has no place in a modern civilized 21st century world?

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They'll probably do what all the Muslims I know are doing right now - ignoring them.

Well kiss a black rock and call me the moon god allah.

I wonder what causes all the: beheading, stoning, amputations, burning them alive, jihadists, honour killings, female genital mutilation, forced child marriage, blaming then killing the female who has been raped, killing apostates, killing the homosexuals, killing the blasphemers, etc. etc. etc.?

That's caused by the small minority who don't ignore "those segments of sharia law which can only be described as utterly degenerate retardation, which has no place in a modern civilized 21st century world".

There are bad Muslims, just as there are bad Christians, Buddhists, and atheists.

If your brain wasn't being rotted away by an irrational fear & hatred of all things 'different', you would realise this.

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Reply #17 - Feb 20^th, 2017 at 2:32pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 20^th, 2017 at 11:55am:

But Herb are you outraged at this uppity muslim asserting that she is obligated by her religion to obey Australian law?

The problem is that this claim is not shared by all of them, and is simply a matter of personal idiosyncrasy as to which part of the Islamic sacred text they prefer to be loyal to.

I quite like this woman, and I admire her for sticking her neck out and stating her piece whilst knowing she will attract many detractors.

I'd pay to sit in on a debate between her and Ayaan Hirsi Ali - with Brigitte Gabriel as Mistress of Ceremonies. Cool

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95441 Gender:	Re: And take the towel with you Reply #18 - Feb 20^th, 2017 at 2:49pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 20^th, 2017 at 12:52pm: https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/68828427.jpg I blame Islam.
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Reply #19 - Feb 20^th, 2017 at 2:50pm

moses wrote on Feb 20^th, 2017 at 1:15pm:

The real issue is: What are muslims going to do about those segments of sharia law which can only be described as utterly degenerate retardation, which has no place in a modern civilized 21st century world?

Ah yes, but what are the Jews going to do about the laws of Leviticus?

You've never said, Moses.

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Reply #20 - Feb 20^th, 2017 at 3:35pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 20^th, 2017 at 2:28pm:

moses wrote on Feb 20^th, 2017 at 2:24pm:

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The real issue is: What are muslims going to do about those segments of sharia law which can only be described as utterly degenerate retardation, which has no place in a modern civilized 21st century world?

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They'll probably do what all the Muslims I know are doing right now - ignoring them.

Well kiss a black rock and call me the moon god allah.

I wonder what causes all the: beheading, stoning, amputations, burning them alive, jihadists, honour killings, female genital mutilation, forced child marriage, blaming then killing the female who has been raped, killing apostates, killing the homosexuals, killing the blasphemers, etc. etc. etc.?

That's caused by the small minority who don't ignore "those segments of sharia law which can only be described as utterly degenerate retardation, which has no place in a modern civilized 21st century world ".

There are bad Muslims, just as there are bad Christians, Buddhists, and atheists.

If your brain wasn't being rotted away by an irrational fear & hatred of all things 'different', you would realise this.

Oh so there are BAD MUSLIMS eh... you better tell bwian. Those BAD MUSLIMS follow SHARIA to the letter eh?

Hmmm... utterly degenerate retardation has no place in a modern civilised world eh... careful... I feel a Fatwah coming on for you Gweggy. Cheesy

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Reply #21 - Feb 20^th, 2017 at 3:40pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 20^th, 2017 at 3:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 20^th, 2017 at 2:28pm:

moses wrote on Feb 20^th, 2017 at 2:24pm:

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The real issue is: What are muslims going to do about those segments of sharia law which can only be described as utterly degenerate retardation, which has no place in a modern civilized 21st century world?

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They'll probably do what all the Muslims I know are doing right now - ignoring them.

Well kiss a black rock and call me the moon god allah.

I wonder what causes all the: beheading, stoning, amputations, burning them alive, jihadists, honour killings, female genital mutilation, forced child marriage, blaming then killing the female who has been raped, killing apostates, killing the homosexuals, killing the blasphemers, etc. etc. etc.?

That's caused by the small minority who don't ignore "those segments of sharia law which can only be described as utterly degenerate retardation, which has no place in a modern civilized 21st century world ".

There are bad Muslims, just as there are bad Christians, Buddhists, and atheists.

If your brain wasn't being rotted away by an irrational fear & hatred of all things 'different', you would realise this.

Oh so there are BAD MUSLIMS eh...

Sure are.

Moreover, nobody has ever said anything to the contrary.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136837 Gender:	Re: And take the towel with you Reply #22 - Feb 20^th, 2017 at 3:42pm Grendel wrote on Feb 20^th, 2017 at 3:35pm: Hmmm... utterly degenerate retardation has no place in a modern civilised world eh... Yes. Those are the words moses used. http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1487517090/10#10
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kemal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 574 Gender:	Re: And take the towel with you Reply #23 - Feb 20^th, 2017 at 3:45pm polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 20^th, 2017 at 12:57pm: This one has some pretty sinister misogynistic overtones too. how dare a muslim woman in a hijab be confident, successful, liberated and assertive against anti-Islam bigotry Why is it that Islam is the most bigoted of ALL religions Gandalf?
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Reply #24 - Feb 20^th, 2017 at 3:49pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 20^th, 2017 at 3:42pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 20^th, 2017 at 3:35pm:

Hmmm... utterly degenerate retardation has no place in a modern civilised world eh...

Yes.

Those are the words moses used.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1487517090/10#10

You too apparently... Grin

FATWAH is a comin' your way... Cheesy

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Reply #25 - Feb 20^th, 2017 at 3:52pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 20^th, 2017 at 3:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 20^th, 2017 at 3:42pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 20^th, 2017 at 3:35pm:

Hmmm... utterly degenerate retardation has no place in a modern civilised world eh...

Yes.

Those are the words moses used.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1487517090/10#10

You too apparently...

That's correct.

I directly quoted him.

Why you find that amusing, is anyone's guess.

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Reply #26 - Feb 20^th, 2017 at 3:56pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 20^th, 2017 at 6:44am:

rhino wrote on Feb 20^th, 2017 at 1:11am:

A right-wing group is campaigning against the Sudanese-born writer for telling the Q&A program last week her Sharia meant she was obliged to obey Australian law.

Outrageous.

She lied though about Jihad.

She forgot to mention the four states of Jihad. The last one being the KILLER!

She asked hizbut tahrir how to "improve her arguments" got told more or less "don't come monday".

She also forgot the little girl of 13 who was forcibly married, raped, suffered an optectic pregnancy.

But ISLAM is a feminist religion.

She should be deported for hate speech!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Brian Ross on why Muslims kill Quote:-" It appears to be a cultural thing, rather than something they have learnt from their religion, despite what you appear to believe."

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Reply #27 - Feb 20^th, 2017 at 5:16pm

rhino wrote on Feb 20^th, 2017 at 2:20pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 20^th, 2017 at 12:49pm:

rhino wrote on Feb 20^th, 2017 at 12:18pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 20^th, 2017 at 11:55am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 20^th, 2017 at 7:24am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 20^th, 2017 at 6:44am:

rhino wrote on Feb 20^th, 2017 at 1:11am:

A right-wing group is campaigning against the Sudanese-born writer for telling the Q&A program last week her Sharia meant she was obliged to obey Australian law.

Outrageous.

It sure is.

'Sharia' is discriminatory against women in that if you should happen to shake a woman's hand as is the custom in the West, you may not be able to control the instantaneous impulse to rape this loose and profligate bitch-dog Unbeliever.

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But Herb are you outraged at this uppity muslim asserting that she is obligated by her religion to obey Australian law?

And yet supports Sharia law, contradiction dont you think?

No contradiction at all, and at the risk of repeating myself, I'll let Ruby explain the point - agian...

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It is clear to me that when Lambie talks of "Sharia law" she is referring to the regressive dogma enforced in the criminal codes of some Muslim-majority countries, while to liberal Muslims like Abdel-Magied, Sharia is about private, personal ethics.

It shouldn't be that difficult to make a distinction between the two and it could be as simple as qualifying the difference between criminal Sharia law, or hudud, and the private moral code.

As long as we fail to make this simple but vital distinction, Muslims will continue to be demonised and the real issue will continue to be missed.

http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/news-and-views/opinion/why-its-not-enough-to-cou...

Yes, we know that she is claiming that but that is not Sharia law in reality is it? You cannot say that in practise Sharia law allows individuals to practise their own version of it.

Why can't I say? Because you see a few boof heads claiming that on TV - and because those few take up all the media coverage of muslims?

I suspect that like Lambie, this is actually the first time you've heard of a sharia law that doesn't involve beheadings and amputations - and just like Lambie, you dismiss it out of hand. Why? Well thats not really clear. There is certainly no legitimate reason. But whatever the reason, it leads you to unfairly default to accusing her and others who argue the same, as liars, hypocrites etc.

As for your question about sharia law not allowing freedom of thought. Easily refuted:

there is no compulsion in religion - Quran 2:256

The truth is from your Lord, so whoever wills - let him believe; and whoever wills - let him disbelieve - Quran 18:29

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: And take the towel with you Reply #28 - Feb 20^th, 2017 at 5:19pm Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 20^th, 2017 at 2:32pm: I quite like this woman, and I admire her for sticking her neck out and stating her piece whilst knowing she will attract many detractors. Credit to you for saying that Herbie.
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Reply #29 - Feb 20^th, 2017 at 5:24pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 20^th, 2017 at 5:19pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 20^th, 2017 at 2:32pm:

I quite like this woman, and I admire her for sticking her neck out and stating her piece whilst knowing she will attract many detractors.

Credit to you for saying that Herbie. Smiley

Have I EVER said anything less than what's fair, reasonable, and sensitive to other people's feelings despite the fact I might strongly disagree with them? Roll Eyes

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