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Reply #16 - Feb 21^st, 2017 at 6:39pm

Gordon wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 5:56pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 5:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 3:02pm:

Jesus, you racists must really hate the Chinese then.

Just cannot imagine what they think of those great copyists, the Japanese. They lifted their entire culture from a medieval one to a modern, industrial one in two generations. How did they do it? By copying European nations (most notably the UK, France and Germany)... Today, do you look down on Japanese technology? I expect so, 'cause they have slanty eyes, right?

Racists are such fools. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Brian, they picked up a pieces of broken glass. Cheesy

And how did the Japanese start their foundries? By picking up the equivalent of "broken glass"...

Just because a person has a different coloured skin does not make that person any more stupid than you are, Gordon. Your racism is disgusting. You are putting down your fellow Australians simply because they picked up and used broken glass? Next you'll be telling us that because White, Colonial Anglo-Saxon/Celtic Australians "picked up" how to find water in the desert from Indigenous Australians, that makes the Colonials "primitive"? That is the level of your racist thinking. It is disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. Roll Eyes

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Reply #17 - Feb 21^st, 2017 at 6:51pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 6:39pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 5:56pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 5:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 3:02pm:

Jesus, you racists must really hate the Chinese then.

Just cannot imagine what they think of those great copyists, the Japanese. They lifted their entire culture from a medieval one to a modern, industrial one in two generations. How did they do it? By copying European nations (most notably the UK, France and Germany)... Today, do you look down on Japanese technology? I expect so, 'cause they have slanty eyes, right?

Racists are such fools. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Brian, they picked up a pieces of broken glass. Cheesy

And how did the Japanese start their foundries? By picking up the equivalent of "broken glass"...

Just because a person has a different coloured skin does not make that person any more stupid than you are, Gordon. Your racism is disgusting. You are putting down your fellow Australians simply because they picked up and used broken glass? Next you'll be telling us that because White, Colonial Anglo-Saxon/Celtic Australians "picked up" how to find water in the desert from Indigenous Australians, that makes the Colonials "primitive"? That is the level of your racist thinking. It is disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. Roll Eyes

You've missed the point too.

They picked up broken glass and used it. Good on them.

I'm putting down the people who are extolling it as a major feat of technology.

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Reply #18 - Feb 21^st, 2017 at 6:57pm

Gordon wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 6:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 6:39pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 5:56pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 5:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 3:02pm:

Jesus, you racists must really hate the Chinese then.

Just cannot imagine what they think of those great copyists, the Japanese. They lifted their entire culture from a medieval one to a modern, industrial one in two generations. How did they do it? By copying European nations (most notably the UK, France and Germany)... Today, do you look down on Japanese technology? I expect so, 'cause they have slanty eyes, right?

Racists are such fools. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Brian, they picked up a pieces of broken glass. Cheesy

And how did the Japanese start their foundries? By picking up the equivalent of "broken glass"...

Just because a person has a different coloured skin does not make that person any more stupid than you are, Gordon. Your racism is disgusting. You are putting down your fellow Australians simply because they picked up and used broken glass? Next you'll be telling us that because White, Colonial Anglo-Saxon/Celtic Australians "picked up" how to find water in the desert from Indigenous Australians, that makes the Colonials "primitive"? That is the level of your racist thinking. It is disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. Roll Eyes

You've missed the point too.

They picked up broken glass and used it. Good on them.

I'm putting down the people who are extolling it as a major feat of technology.

No, you are putting down Indigenous Australians for doing it, Gordon. Your now trying to cover that up. Your racism is disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. If you want to put down the people who are extolling this, then make that plain, don't attack the Indigenous Australians who did this. Roll Eyes

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Reply #19 - Feb 21^st, 2017 at 7:00pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 6:57pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 6:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 6:39pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 5:56pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 5:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 3:02pm:

Jesus, you racists must really hate the Chinese then.

Just cannot imagine what they think of those great copyists, the Japanese. They lifted their entire culture from a medieval one to a modern, industrial one in two generations. How did they do it? By copying European nations (most notably the UK, France and Germany)... Today, do you look down on Japanese technology? I expect so, 'cause they have slanty eyes, right?

Racists are such fools. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Brian, they picked up a pieces of broken glass. Cheesy

And how did the Japanese start their foundries? By picking up the equivalent of "broken glass"...

Just because a person has a different coloured skin does not make that person any more stupid than you are, Gordon. Your racism is disgusting. You are putting down your fellow Australians simply because they picked up and used broken glass? Next you'll be telling us that because White, Colonial Anglo-Saxon/Celtic Australians "picked up" how to find water in the desert from Indigenous Australians, that makes the Colonials "primitive"? That is the level of your racist thinking. It is disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. Roll Eyes

You've missed the point too.

They picked up broken glass and used it. Good on them.

I'm putting down the people who are extolling it as a major feat of technology.

No, you are putting down Indigenous Australians for doing it, Gordon. Your now trying to cover that up. Your racism is disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. If you want to put down the people who are extolling this, then make that plain, don't attack the Indigenous Australians who did this. Roll Eyes

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Reply #20 - Feb 21^st, 2017 at 7:02pm

Gnads wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 6:02pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 5:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 3:02pm:

Jesus, you racists must really hate the Chinese then.

Just cannot imagine what they think of those great copyists, the Japanese. They lifted their entire culture from a medieval one to a modern, industrial one in two generations. How did they do it? By copying European nations (most notably the UK, France and Germany)... Today, do you look down on Japanese technology? I expect so, 'cause they have slanty eyes, right?

Racists are such fools. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

You're complete tosser Brian

even the most primative Japanese culture was more advanced than the subject matter.

As were the Chinese.

And it's probably early European & Asian explorers that left broken glass that Aboriginals found.

No, Gnads, the Indigenous Australians' culture was highly advanced - for the stone age. Before you attack Indigenous Australians I have to ask, how much do you actually know about their culture? How about their astronomy? Their record keeping? Their agriculture? Their aquaculture? Their culture may have been "primitive" but that does not give you the right to denigrate them for it. To do so, is to show just how foolish your own views are. I'd rather have an Indigenous Australian as a friend than you. Simple as that. At least I'd know they were hard working, honest people. You? You're just a smarmy racist who denigrates people because they have different coloured skin and live in what you seem to think was a "primitive culture". Tsk, tsk. Don't forget, Genetically there is more difference between you and the next white person than there is between you and an Indigenous Australian. Fool. Roll Eyes

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Reply #21 - Feb 21^st, 2017 at 7:06pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 6:57pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 6:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 6:39pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 5:56pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 5:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 3:02pm:

Jesus, you racists must really hate the Chinese then.

Just cannot imagine what they think of those great copyists, the Japanese. They lifted their entire culture from a medieval one to a modern, industrial one in two generations. How did they do it? By copying European nations (most notably the UK, France and Germany)... Today, do you look down on Japanese technology? I expect so, 'cause they have slanty eyes, right?

Racists are such fools. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Brian, they picked up a pieces of broken glass. Cheesy

And how did the Japanese start their foundries? By picking up the equivalent of "broken glass"...

Just because a person has a different coloured skin does not make that person any more stupid than you are, Gordon. Your racism is disgusting. You are putting down your fellow Australians simply because they picked up and used broken glass? Next you'll be telling us that because White, Colonial Anglo-Saxon/Celtic Australians "picked up" how to find water in the desert from Indigenous Australians, that makes the Colonials "primitive"? That is the level of your racist thinking. It is disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. Roll Eyes

You've missed the point too.

They picked up broken glass and used it. Good on them.

I'm putting down the people who are extolling it as a major feat of technology.

No, you are putting down Indigenous Australians for doing it, Gordon. Your now trying to cover that up. Your racism is disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. If you want to put down the people who are extolling this, then make that plain, don't attack the Indigenous Australians who did this. Roll Eyes

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Reply #22 - Feb 21^st, 2017 at 7:09pm

Gordon wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 7:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 6:57pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 6:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 6:39pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 5:56pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 5:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 3:02pm:

Jesus, you racists must really hate the Chinese then.

Just cannot imagine what they think of those great copyists, the Japanese. They lifted their entire culture from a medieval one to a modern, industrial one in two generations. How did they do it? By copying European nations (most notably the UK, France and Germany)... Today, do you look down on Japanese technology? I expect so, 'cause they have slanty eyes, right?

Racists are such fools. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Brian, they picked up a pieces of broken glass. Cheesy

And how did the Japanese start their foundries? By picking up the equivalent of "broken glass"...

Just because a person has a different coloured skin does not make that person any more stupid than you are, Gordon. Your racism is disgusting. You are putting down your fellow Australians simply because they picked up and used broken glass? Next you'll be telling us that because White, Colonial Anglo-Saxon/Celtic Australians "picked up" how to find water in the desert from Indigenous Australians, that makes the Colonials "primitive"? That is the level of your racist thinking. It is disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. Roll Eyes

You've missed the point too.

They picked up broken glass and used it. Good on them.

I'm putting down the people who are extolling it as a major feat of technology.

No, you are putting down Indigenous Australians for doing it, Gordon. Your now trying to cover that up. Your racism is disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. If you want to put down the people who are extolling this, then make that plain, don't attack the Indigenous Australians who did this. Roll Eyes

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Gordon wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 2:45pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 2:21pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 1:38pm:

Valkie wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 1:32pm:

O.M.G

Are we really going down that path.
Genuflecting to some primitives who picked up a dit of discarded glass and calling it evolutionary advancement.

The next thing will be us extolling the skill and adaptability of Aboriginals in being able to use a toilet and mobile phone.

It just goes to show how little this culture realy has to offer.

I'm not having a go at Abos here, but THIS is TRUE racism, the soft bigotry of lowered expectations.

Lol the classic but statement. I'm not racist or sexist or homophobic or having a go, but

You misunderstood what I said. I'm having a go at the cultural revisionists who are elevating Aboriginal culture to something it just was not. They picked up bit of broken glass and realised it was sharp and they can use it. Big whoop.

No, Bojack and I understood exactly what you mean, Gordon. Now, either you're lying or English not your first language. So, which is it? If it's the latter, what is your original nationality? How does that effect your racism? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Reply #23 - Feb 21^st, 2017 at 7:17pm

Please, ladies and gentlemen!

It's very basic grammar.

'Aboriginal' is an adjective .. ie. aboriginal person/dwelling/tribe/customs/ etc

and

'Aborigine' is a noun. He is an aborigine.

And I don't give a rat's arse if aboriginal bedwetters don't like the term 'aborigine'. Suck it up guys - because THAT is the correct grammar we should all be using.

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The word "aborigine" is defined in the Merriam-Webster dictionary as:

1. an aboriginal (the first or earliest known of its kind present in a region) inhabitant especially as contrasted with an invading or colonizing people
2. a member of any of the indigenous peoples of Australia

Many Australian Aboriginal people dislike the term "Aborigines" because it has been imposed on them during the course of colonisation. Some also dislike "Aboriginal", although it is widely used (though preferably as an adjective, as in "Aboriginal peoples").

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Reply #24 - Feb 21^st, 2017 at 7:22pm

Brian, I've stated many times in many threads that I believe a persons skin colour has no impact on their intelligence. It's all about culture. If you've missed that, then that's your bad.

Now back to the article. That aboriginals picked up bits of broken glass and put them to good use is exactly what's expected.

The fact it's lauded as some sort of achievement is ridiculous. I reckon a crow or a magpie would have a red hot go at using broken glass as a tool.

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Reply #25 - Feb 21^st, 2017 at 7:42pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 7:02pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 6:02pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 5:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 3:02pm:

Jesus, you racists must really hate the Chinese then.

Just cannot imagine what they think of those great copyists, the Japanese. They lifted their entire culture from a medieval one to a modern, industrial one in two generations. How did they do it? By copying European nations (most notably the UK, France and Germany)... Today, do you look down on Japanese technology? I expect so, 'cause they have slanty eyes, right?

Racists are such fools. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

You're complete tosser Brian

even the most primative Japanese culture was more advanced than the subject matter.

As were the Chinese.

And it's probably early European & Asian explorers that left broken glass that Aboriginals found.

No, Gnads, the Indigenous Australians' culture was highly advanced - for the stone age. Before you attack Indigenous Australians I have to ask, how much do you actually know about their culture? How about their astronomy? Their record keeping? Their agriculture? Their aquaculture? Their culture may have been "primitive" but that does not give you the right to denigrate them for it. To do so, is to show just how foolish your own views are. I'd rather have an Indigenous Australian as a friend than you. Simple as that. At least I'd know they were hard working, honest people. You? You're just a smarmy racist who denigrates people because they have different coloured skin and live in what you seem to think was a "primitive culture". Tsk, tsk. Don't forget, Genetically there is more difference between you and the next white person than there is between you and an Indigenous Australian. Fool. Roll Eyes

Firstly, Aboriginals were not even at stone age.
They had not even started attaching stones to sticks.
They use sharpened bits of wood for spears.

They had no aquaculture, no agriculture, they were simply nomadic primitives who wandered around looking for food.

Comparing ANY other culture especially Chinese, who were far more cultured and advanced than many Europeans at the time, is both insulting and stupiiid.

Besides, it is not the Aboriginals we are questioning.
The whole crux of the matter is that just by picking up something sharp and using it to cut something does not, under any context, mean any race is using advanced technology or that it was broaching a technological advancement.
This constant drive to try and prove advanced thinking, in a culture so primitive that it still had not reached stone age is just totally ridiculous.

It is not, as you seem to find any discussion about anyone, RACIST.
It is simple statement of fact.

You and your ilk think that by labeling anyone who dares to question any old rubbish extolled as pro Aboriginal, Muslim or dark skinned as being an argument, just shows your ignorance.

I am not a racist, I dare you to call me one.
I dislike with a passion the CULT not because of the races that make it up, but because of what this CULT stands for.

As for Aboriginals, lebbos, Greeks, Italians, Chinese etc etc I have many friends of many nationalities and none ever call me racist.
My wedding party consisted of an Aboriginal, Swede, New Zealander and an Irish mate.
My wedding had over 9 nationalities as part of my friends and family.

It is you my friend who is racist, racist against an white skinned person.
You are an Anglophobe and you are far less tolerant than me or mione any day.

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Reply #26 - Feb 21^st, 2017 at 7:45pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 7:17pm:

Please, ladies and gentlemen!

It's very basic grammar.

'Aboriginal' is an adjective .. ie. aboriginal person/dwelling/tribe/customs/ etc

and

'Aborigine' is a noun. He is an aborigine.

And I don't give a rat's arse if aboriginal bedwetters don't like the term 'aborigine'. Suck it up guys - because THAT is the correct grammar we should all be using.

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The word "aborigine" is defined in the Merriam-Webster dictionary as:

1. an aboriginal (the first or earliest known of its kind present in a region) inhabitant especially as contrasted with an invading or colonizing people
2. a member of any of the indigenous peoples of Australia

Many Australian Aboriginal people dislike the term "Aborigines" because it has been imposed on them during the course of colonisation. Some also dislike "Aboriginal", although it is widely used (though preferably as an adjective, as in "Aboriginal peoples").

?Merriam=Webster" is an American publishing company, Herbie. Why are you, a ten pound English Chinaman using it? Surely you'd use the Oxford English Dictionary in preference?

"Indigenous Australians" is a more fitting title. "Aborigines" simply means "original inhabitants" and does not refer exclusively to Australia. It is used in Canada and other ex-colonial nations to describe their indigenous inhabitants. Roll Eyes

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Reply #27 - Feb 21^st, 2017 at 7:48pm

Gordon wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 7:22pm:

Brian, I've stated many times in many threads that I believe a persons skin colour has no impact on their intelligence. It's all about culture. If you've missed that, then that's your bad.

Really? Provide a link to where you did that, please?

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Now back to the article. That aboriginals picked up bits of broken glass and put them to good use is exactly what's expected.

Not quite an apology, Gordon but it will do as a clarification.

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The fact it's lauded as some sort of achievement is ridiculous. I reckon a crow or a magpie would have a red hot go at using broken glass as a tool.

Ah, so now you think birds are as smart as human beings who just happen to be black? Tsk, tsk, more racism? Might be better if you keep your trap shut if that is your attitude to your fellow Australians. Disgusting. Roll Eyes

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Reply #28 - Feb 21^st, 2017 at 7:53pm

Valkie wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 7:42pm:

Firstly, Aboriginals were not even at stone age.
They had not even started attaching stones to sticks.
They use sharpened bits of wood for spears.

Valkie, your racism is quite stupid. I'd recommend you do a google search before you put your feet into your mouth again. It might help you to understand the level of technology that Indigenous Australians had at the time of Colonisation by the English...

Of course, being ignorant is something you excel in, now isn't it? Tsk, tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Reply #29 - Feb 21^st, 2017 at 8:00pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 7:48pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 7:22pm:

Brian, I've stated many times in many threads that I believe a persons skin colour has no impact on their intelligence. It's all about culture. If you've missed that, then that's your bad.

Really? Provide a link to where you did that, please?

Quote:

Now back to the article. That aboriginals picked up bits of broken glass and put them to good use is exactly what's expected.

Not quite an apology, Gordon but it will do as a clarification.

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The fact it's lauded as some sort of achievement is ridiculous. I reckon a crow or a magpie would have a red hot go at using broken glass as a tool.

Ah, so now you think birds are as smart as human beings who just happen to be black? Tsk, tsk, more racism? Might be better if you keep your trap shut if that is your attitude to your fellow Australians. Disgusting. Roll Eyes

Search the word 'container'. Karnal knows what I'm on about. I'm a culturist, not a racist.

I knew you'd love the magpie comment but I know you know that I was saying using a simple tool is something even a magpie could do, and not saying the limit off an aboriginals intelligence is that of a bird.

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