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Re: Aboriginals adapted
Reply #210 - Mar 5^th, 2017 at 7:52pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 5^th, 2017 at 7:42pm:

Raven wrote on Mar 5^th, 2017 at 3:40pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2017 at 8:24am:

Raven wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2017 at 1:34am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2017 at 1:06am:

Setanta wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2017 at 1:02am:

Raven wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2017 at 12:53am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2017 at 11:30pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2017 at 11:13pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2017 at 11:12pm:

[quote author=Brian_Ross link=1487646898/153#153 date=1488453606]Nope. Never claimed I was born in 1957. Not sure where you're getting that from... Roll Eyes

Then I assumed wrong. I'm sure that someone here posted their birth year to be 1957. Oh well...

Not me. Mine's 1959. Obviously a good year.

Young punk......... 1949 was a good year.....

1984, rolls off the tongue beautifully. Such a great year.

1984... yeeee-ussshh... need I say more?

You're not ageist are you? Of course not, you enjoy indoor plumbing, though you rarely get to do the Charleston anymore. But at least you have fun at night using your Stereopticon.

I was referring to the book... sort of... hold nothing against know-all young punks who've done a great job of stuffing up the nation.... (just digging at you for fun - I stir a bit)...

The young punks stuffed up the nation hey?

From almost any vantage point you take, the Baby Boomers are the worst generation in world history.

"Back in my day" Raven has lost count over the number of times he has heard those four condescending words.

And while those pearls of wisdom are meant with good intentions a majority of the time, the fact remains things have changed. The world is unfortunately not the same simple place it was back when Baby Boomers and Generation X started out.

The truth is we are, ultimately, a product of our environment. We have inherited an unsavoury position, and we are doing the best with the lot we have been given.

Unfortunately, Generation Y still cops a lot of flack for things we have no control over. Baby Boomers (those born 1946 to 1964) were the most selfish generation in history and the next generations are paying the bill by being forced to enter the workforce debt-ridden.

After they got a free ride through secondary education, Baby Boomer pollies created HECS which leaves the majority of University-educated Millennials with lifelong debts.

Then we get criticised because we’re living with our parents longer than ever before.

But back in 1980, the median home price in Raven's home town of Darwin was only $37,500. With inflation taken into account, that would now be $148,947. For reference, the median home price hit $625,000 in 2015.

In other words, we’re now forking out over four times what people in the 80s were for a home. Not exactly fair.

Even the 2013 The Wealth of Generations report from the Grattan Institute found Millennials will be the first to have less wealth than the previous generation because they have been shut-out from the housing market.

Though this thread is not the place to talk about it.

Raven will start his own topic on this.

You're blaming all those hard-working, conscientious, loyal to the core people who raised this nation up - instead of looking fairly and squarely at the political class and the business class for stuffing things up for everyone?

How about you focus on the real baddies instead of throwing buckets of shot over all? That might help your lazy lot get ahead...

Oh its easy now.

Just float a boat from some shiehole country and claim asylum and you get free everything.
Then become a part of the Barbaric CULT and you have it made.
You can be a pedophile if you belong to this CULT and marry a baby.
You can have your wife mutilated genitally so that she wont stray and then you could put her in a tent to hide the fact that you have a baby for a bride.
You would of course have to go screaming RACISM and islamophobia all the time and you would have to stick your bum in your boyfrends face several times a day, but hey, you would never ever have to actually do any work in your life.

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I HAVE A DREAM
A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

SUCH A WONDERFUL DREAM
O HOW I WISH IT WERE TRU

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 42029	Re: Aboriginals adapted Reply #211 - Mar 5^th, 2017 at 7:55pm Tsk, tsk, more Islamophobia, Valkie? Stop it, you'll go blind if you keep doing this!
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 46726 Gender:	Re: Aboriginals adapted Reply #212 - Mar 5^th, 2017 at 8:30pm What exactly is wrong with hating Islam? It's not exactly an accommodating, easy-going and friendly creed. Why not hate and despise it? People hate much lesser things without remark: Brussels sprouts, Scientology, pompous buffoons called Brian Ross, etc.
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Re: Aboriginals adapted
Reply #213 - Mar 5^th, 2017 at 9:39pm

Frank wrote on Mar 5^th, 2017 at 8:30pm:

What exactly is wrong with hating Islam? It's not exactly an accommodating, easy-going and friendly creed.

Why not hate and despise it? People hate much lesser things without remark: Brussels sprouts, Scientology, pompous buffoons called Brian Ross, etc.

Such ad hominem, Soren? Tsk, tsk, stop it you'll go blind! Roll Eyes

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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: Aboriginals adapted Reply #214 - Mar 5^th, 2017 at 11:39pm Middle eastern culture is abhorrent, and the religion they invented is part of their culture. Thats the reality.
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Reply #215 - Mar 5^th, 2017 at 11:56pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 5^th, 2017 at 3:53pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 2:50am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2017 at 4:42pm:

Islam is a recognised religion around the world. I am unsure why Islamophobes are afraid to admit that. It's childish and silly. Roll Eyes

What are you trying to say? I have not seen anyone saying it's not one of the major religions of the world. I have seen people, myself included, that think it's a pretty f'd up religion, amongst religions, and it's culture and laws follow it everywhere.

Valkie amongst others, claims that Islam is a "cult", not a religion. Read more widely, Setanta, please. Roll Eyes

Ah.. OK. Cult, religion, only difference is the number of adherents and organisation. Both are pretty much equal. It started as a cult and was spread by the sword to become a religion.

I have no idea why any secularist would defend Islam. I would defend it adherents as human beings but the teachings they follow suck pig nuts.

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Reply #216 - Mar 6^th, 2017 at 12:09am

Setanta wrote on Mar 5^th, 2017 at 11:56pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 5^th, 2017 at 3:53pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 2:50am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2017 at 4:42pm:

Islam is a recognised religion around the world. I am unsure why Islamophobes are afraid to admit that. It's childish and silly. Roll Eyes

What are you trying to say? I have not seen anyone saying it's not one of the major religions of the world. I have seen people, myself included, that think it's a pretty f'd up religion, amongst religions, and it's culture and laws follow it everywhere.

Valkie amongst others, claims that Islam is a "cult", not a religion. Read more widely, Setanta, please. Roll Eyes

Ah.. OK. Cult, religion, only difference is the number of adherents and organisation. Both are pretty much equal. It started as a cult and was spread by the sword to become a religion.

I have no idea why any secularist would defend Islam. I would defend it adherents as human beings but the teachings they follow suck pig nuts.

Well, I am actually defending its adherents more than the religion, which I consider comparable to all other religions. Capable of great things but also capable of bad things, terrible things as well. Roll Eyes

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 42029	Re: Aboriginals adapted Reply #217 - Mar 6^th, 2017 at 12:10am rhino wrote on Mar 5^th, 2017 at 11:39pm: Middle eastern culture is abhorrent, and the religion they invented is part of their culture. Thats the reality. You really shouldn't condemn Christianity like that, Rhino. Tsk, tsk.
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Reply #218 - Mar 6^th, 2017 at 12:13am

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 12:09am:

Setanta wrote on Mar 5^th, 2017 at 11:56pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 5^th, 2017 at 3:53pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 2:50am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2017 at 4:42pm:

Islam is a recognised religion around the world. I am unsure why Islamophobes are afraid to admit that. It's childish and silly. Roll Eyes

What are you trying to say? I have not seen anyone saying it's not one of the major religions of the world. I have seen people, myself included, that think it's a pretty f'd up religion, amongst religions, and it's culture and laws follow it everywhere.

Valkie amongst others, claims that Islam is a "cult", not a religion. Read more widely, Setanta, please. Roll Eyes

Ah.. OK. Cult, religion, only difference is the number of adherents and organisation. Both are pretty much equal. It started as a cult and was spread by the sword to become a religion.

I have no idea why any secularist would defend Islam. I would defend it adherents as human beings but the teachings they follow suck pig nuts.

Well, I am actually defending its adherents more than the religion, which I consider comparable to all other religions. Capable of great things but also capable of bad things, terrible things as well. Roll Eyes

Then do so and call a spade a spade. Religions are not capable of great things, just because a society that holds a religion does great things does not mean the religion did jack. People do great things. In fact it's often in spite of the religion people do great things.

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Reply #219 - Mar 6^th, 2017 at 12:15am

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 12:10am:

rhino wrote on Mar 5^th, 2017 at 11:39pm:

Middle eastern culture is abhorrent, and the religion they invented is part of their culture. Thats the reality.

You really shouldn't condemn Christianity like that, Rhino. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

I do.. Tsk Tsk me too. I wonder how Copernicus and Galileo felt furthering our knowledge.

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Reply #220 - Mar 6^th, 2017 at 12:43am

Setanta wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 12:13am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 12:09am:

Setanta wrote on Mar 5^th, 2017 at 11:56pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 5^th, 2017 at 3:53pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 2:50am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2017 at 4:42pm:

Islam is a recognised religion around the world. I am unsure why Islamophobes are afraid to admit that. It's childish and silly. Roll Eyes

What are you trying to say? I have not seen anyone saying it's not one of the major religions of the world. I have seen people, myself included, that think it's a pretty f'd up religion, amongst religions, and it's culture and laws follow it everywhere.

Valkie amongst others, claims that Islam is a "cult", not a religion. Read more widely, Setanta, please. Roll Eyes

Ah.. OK. Cult, religion, only difference is the number of adherents and organisation. Both are pretty much equal. It started as a cult and was spread by the sword to become a religion.

I have no idea why any secularist would defend Islam. I would defend it adherents as human beings but the teachings they follow suck pig nuts.

Well, I am actually defending its adherents more than the religion, which I consider comparable to all other religions. Capable of great things but also capable of bad things, terrible things as well. Roll Eyes

Then do so and call a spade a spade. Religions are not capable of great things, just because a society that holds a religion does great things does not mean the religion did jack. People do great things. In fact it's often in spite of the religion people do great things.

People, inspired by religion do great things, Setanta. People inspired by religion do bad and terrible things as well. It is an unfortunate fact of life and as much as we can appreciate that, we must also appreciate that the great things cannot be ignored either. Music and art are the two main great things that I admire about religion. I love early Christian music and I love Islamic music.

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Reply #221 - Mar 6^th, 2017 at 12:45am

Setanta wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 12:15am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 12:10am:

rhino wrote on Mar 5^th, 2017 at 11:39pm:

Middle eastern culture is abhorrent, and the religion they invented is part of their culture. Thats the reality.

You really shouldn't condemn Christianity like that, Rhino. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

I do.. Tsk Tsk me too. I wonder how Copernicus and Galileo felt furthering our knowledge.

Yet their furthering of our knowledge still happened, Setanta. In the case of Copernicus, the same man who created the first printed Bible also printed his work on the celestial spheres...

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #222 - Mar 6^th, 2017 at 12:47am

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 12:43am:

Setanta wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 12:13am:

Then do so and call a spade a spade. Religions are not capable of great things, just because a society that holds a religion does great things does not mean the religion did jack. People do great things. In fact it's often in spite of the religion people do great things.

People, inspired by religion do great things, Setanta. People inspired by religion do bad and terrible things as well. It is an unfortunate fact of life and as much as we can appreciate that, we must also appreciate that the great things cannot be ignored either. Music and art are the two main great things that I admire about religion. I love early Christian music and I love Islamic music.

People being people would do great things regardless of their beliefs, their religion may tint art but it cannot tint science and knowledge. it often retards it.

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Reply #223 - Mar 6^th, 2017 at 12:53am

Setanta wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 12:47am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 12:43am:

Setanta wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 12:13am:

Then do so and call a spade a spade. Religions are not capable of great things, just because a society that holds a religion does great things does not mean the religion did jack. People do great things. In fact it's often in spite of the religion people do great things.

People, inspired by religion do great things, Setanta. People inspired by religion do bad and terrible things as well. It is an unfortunate fact of life and as much as we can appreciate that, we must also appreciate that the great things cannot be ignored either. Music and art are the two main great things that I admire about religion. I love early Christian music and I love Islamic music.

People being people would do great things regardless of their beliefs, their religion may tint art but it cannot tint science and knowledge. it often retards it.

True. Those that fear to look at reality and to wonder at it, fear new knowledge that might upset their beliefs. Interestingly, the Vatican established one of the first proper Astronomical Departments in the hills outside Rome IIRC in the mid-nineteenth century. They provide us with some of the best early scientific observations of the Sun. Something that is proving invaluable in Climate Change studies.

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Reply #224 - Mar 6^th, 2017 at 1:06am

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 12:53am:

Setanta wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 12:47am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 12:43am:

Setanta wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 12:13am:

Then do so and call a spade a spade. Religions are not capable of great things, just because a society that holds a religion does great things does not mean the religion did jack. People do great things. In fact it's often in spite of the religion people do great things.

People, inspired by religion do great things, Setanta. People inspired by religion do bad and terrible things as well. It is an unfortunate fact of life and as much as we can appreciate that, we must also appreciate that the great things cannot be ignored either. Music and art are the two main great things that I admire about religion. I love early Christian music and I love Islamic music.

People being people would do great things regardless of their beliefs, their religion may tint art but it cannot tint science and knowledge. it often retards it.

True. Those that fear to look at reality and to wonder at it, fear new knowledge that might upset their beliefs. Interestingly, the Vatican established one of the first proper Astronomical Departments in the hills outside Rome IIRC in the mid-nineteenth century. They provide us with some of the best early scientific observations of the Sun. Something that is proving invaluable in Climate Change studies.

Sometimes, after much bloodshed, persecution etc they may do something worthwhile but how much sooner would those things have happened without their "help". I think I'll stick with religions being a retardant on man rather than an accelerant.

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