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Reply #255 - Mar 8^th, 2017 at 6:06pm

Emma wrote on Mar 8^th, 2017 at 2:24am:

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Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Mar 7^th, 2017 at 11:39pm:

it's more correct to describe christianty as a jewish religion

It's foundations were definitely Jewish, CW. However, it has developed since then into something unique in it's hypocrisy and hatred. Roll Eyes

Baldly, that is true. But the same observations can be made of ALL other religions.

Yep, sure can. It's interesting how much of a free ride Christianity gets in these fora. Islam is the only religion that gets really criticised while Christianity gets overlooked. I wonder why? Islamophobia perhaps? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #256 - Mar 8^th, 2017 at 6:08pm

Valkie wrote on Mar 8^th, 2017 at 11:19am:

Emma wrote on Mar 8^th, 2017 at 2:24am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 8^th, 2017 at 12:27am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Mar 7^th, 2017 at 11:39pm:

it's more correct to describe christianty as a jewish religion

It's foundations were definitely Jewish, CW. However, it has developed since then into something unique in it's hypocrisy and hatred. Roll Eyes

Baldly, that is true. But the same observations can be made of ALL other religions.

And they can evolve/devolve into hatred, terrorism, misogyny, murder, homophobic, pedophile infected, women mutilating, backward, barbaric low IQ sick and twisted ideals just like the CULT of EVIL.

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At least Christianity has evolved forward and does not condone child Pedophile marriages, FGM or murder of homosexuals or small girls who are raped.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Islamophobia again, Valkie? You must nearly be blind by now... Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #257 - Mar 8^th, 2017 at 6:09pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Mar 8^th, 2017 at 12:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 8^th, 2017 at 12:27am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Mar 7^th, 2017 at 11:39pm:

it's more correct to describe christianty as a jewish religion

It's foundations were definitely Jewish, CW. However, it has developed since then into something unique in it's hypocrisy and hatred. Roll Eyes

there's nothing unique about hypocrisy and hatred. it's everywhere.

st paul is often attributed to where christianity went wrong. he turned it from a personal, self-reforming doctrine, into one where morality should be legislated by the church. jesus was a bit of dreamer though to think everyone could 'turn the other cheek' etc. far too optimistic given the way of men and women.

Oh, St.Paul has a lot to answer for in his misogny and his support for slavery. Definitely. Roll Eyes

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Reply #258 - Mar 8^th, 2017 at 6:13pm

Frank wrote on Mar 8^th, 2017 at 4:44pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 7^th, 2017 at 11:14pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 7^th, 2017 at 5:16pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 9:46pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 8:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 5:55pm:

rhino wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 1:06am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 12:10am:

rhino wrote on Mar 5^th, 2017 at 11:39pm:

Middle eastern culture is abhorrent, and the religion they invented is part of their culture. Thats the reality.

You really shouldn't condemn Christianity like that, Rhino. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

If Christianity was majority practised in the middle east they would have perverted it to their culture.

Christianity is a "Middle-Eastern religion", Rhino. It is a product (at least initially) of the society in which it was founded - a Middle-Eastern one. Palestine was in the Middle-East IIRC. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Don't be stupid Brian.

Are you claiming that Christianity isn't a Middle-Eastern religion, Soren? Really?

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Yeah, really, you pompous buffoon.

Christianity is least practiced in the Middle East, its remaining practitioners are persecuted there more, in a more deadly fashion, than anywhere else. In any case, Christianity pre-dates the term Middle East by many, many centuries, you doctor of drongo.

What was your doctoral thesis on, Brian?

I don't have a Doctorate (PhD), Soren. However, I do have a Doctor of Divinity. And guess, what, we studied Christianity, extensively. Guess also what? Christianity originated in the Middle-East. It is a religion that is representative of Middle-Eastern ideals and beliefs. It's history until about ~300 CE was based primarily in, where? Oh, the Middle-East of course. Funny that. Roll Eyes

There was no 'Middle East" when Christianity came into being, and not for another 18 hundred years, during which time it was anything but a Levantine religion, thanks to Muslim ethnic cleansing.

A Roman religion, a Roman version of Judaism if anything, until the reformation. It's no accident that the one of the Universal Roman (ie Roman Catholic) pope's titles is an originally Roman religious title, Pontifex Maximus. Even Byzantium and its founding emperors Constantine, Justinian saw themselves as 'Roman'.

Yet, Soren, Christianity originated in Palestine ("Middle-East" in modern regional parlance), it was made up of primarily Palestinian people, it's beliefs were primarily Palestinian and its fonder was Palestinian. Funny how you keep ignoring that. I wonder why? Is it painful to admit that you worship a Jewish God and that your messiah was a Jew? Tsk, tsk, such anti-Semitism. Roll Eyes

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What crazy institution would confer an honorary Doctor of Divinity on you, a mere tendentious buffoon??

Tsk, tsk, resorting to ad hominem debate again, Soren? Nothing "honorary" about my DD. Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: Aboriginals adapted Reply #259 - Mar 9^th, 2017 at 2:52am Is BR really Soren.?
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35514 Gender:	Re: Aboriginals adapted Reply #260 - Mar 9^th, 2017 at 9:23am Emma wrote on Mar 9^th, 2017 at 2:52am: Is BR really Soren.? No. Frank is Soren.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 138632 Gender:	Re: Aboriginals adapted Reply #261 - Mar 9^th, 2017 at 10:37am mothra wrote on Mar 9^th, 2017 at 9:23am: Emma wrote on Mar 9^th, 2017 at 2:52am: Is BR really Soren.? No. Frank is Soren. I thought Valkie was Soren. So many socks in this place!
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Reply #262 - Mar 9^th, 2017 at 2:11pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 9^th, 2017 at 10:37am:

mothra wrote on Mar 9^th, 2017 at 9:23am:

Emma wrote on Mar 9^th, 2017 at 2:52am:

Is BR really Soren.?

No. Frank is Soren.

I thought Valkie was Soren.

So many socks in this place! Roll Eyes

Muzzo plant, apologist and Anglophobe
You are getting quite a resume

Next step is going for your 72 virgins

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A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
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Reply #263 - Mar 9^th, 2017 at 3:55pm

Valkie wrote on Mar 9^th, 2017 at 2:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 9^th, 2017 at 10:37am:

mothra wrote on Mar 9^th, 2017 at 9:23am:

Emma wrote on Mar 9^th, 2017 at 2:52am:

Is BR really Soren.?

No. Frank is Soren.

I thought Valkie was Soren.

So many socks in this place! Roll Eyes

Muzzo plant, apologist and Anglophobe
You are getting quite a resume

Next step is going for your 72 virgins

This is Australia, Sore End.

Do you honestly think I'd be able to find 72 virgins?

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Re: Aboriginals adapted
Reply #264 - Mar 9^th, 2017 at 4:27pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 8^th, 2017 at 6:09pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Mar 8^th, 2017 at 12:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 8^th, 2017 at 12:27am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Mar 7^th, 2017 at 11:39pm:

it's more correct to describe christianty as a jewish religion

It's foundations were definitely Jewish, CW. However, it has developed since then into something unique in it's hypocrisy and hatred. Roll Eyes

there's nothing unique about hypocrisy and hatred. it's everywhere.

st paul is often attributed to where christianity went wrong. he turned it from a personal, self-reforming doctrine, into one where morality should be legislated by the church. jesus was a bit of dreamer though to think everyone could 'turn the other cheek' etc. far too optimistic given the way of men and women.

Oh, St.Paul has a lot to answer for in his misogny and his support for slavery. Definitely. Roll Eyes

like the arab slave traders and their misogyny?

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Reply #265 - Mar 9^th, 2017 at 4:33pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 8^th, 2017 at 6:09pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Mar 8^th, 2017 at 12:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 8^th, 2017 at 12:27am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Mar 7^th, 2017 at 11:39pm:

it's more correct to describe christianty as a jewish religion

It's foundations were definitely Jewish, CW. However, it has developed since then into something unique in it's hypocrisy and hatred. Roll Eyes

there's nothing unique about hypocrisy and hatred. it's everywhere.

st paul is often attributed to where christianity went wrong. he turned it from a personal, self-reforming doctrine, into one where morality should be legislated by the church. jesus was a bit of dreamer though to think everyone could 'turn the other cheek' etc. far too optimistic given the way of men and women.

Oh, St.Paul has a lot to answer for in his misogny and his support for slavery. Definitely. Roll Eyes

I'm no fan of Paul mainly due to his theology, but the slave and misogynistic verses are, I believe, exclusively written in the epistles which most scholars don't attribute directly to Paul. Paul was said to have authenticly written 7 epistles. In the epistle to Philemon he actually asks osemius to release his slave. There are 'new perspectives' on Paul, which assert that he was quite radical for his time.

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Reply #266 - Mar 9^th, 2017 at 4:36pm

Gordon wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 1:14pm:

So we're extolling the virtues of Aboriginals because they managed to pick up bits of broken glass and realised they were sharp and they could cut things with them.

The glass shows that Aboriginal people were here and were utilising new materials, changing their technology, their technique of making artifacts

Hang on what, new materials? Oh yeah, new materials to Aboriginals

I'd be impressed if they found pieces of glass, ground them to precision, put them inside a didgeridoo and used their brand new high power telescope to discover a new moon of Jupiter. Cheesy

Finding a piece of glass on the ground and using it to cut things, I'd be impressed if a bonobo did that. Not a human.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-21/artefacts-show-coexistence-between-aborigi...

If want a reasonableness explanation on why different societies be evolved differently, read Jared diamond's Guns, Germs and Steel. This attributes environmental factors to urbanisation, writing and division of labour.

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Reply #267 - Mar 9^th, 2017 at 4:41pm

Auggie wrote on Mar 9^th, 2017 at 4:36pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 1:14pm:

So we're extolling the virtues of Aboriginals because they managed to pick up bits of broken glass and realised they were sharp and they could cut things with them.

The glass shows that Aboriginal people were here and were utilising new materials, changing their technology, their technique of making artifacts

Hang on what, new materials? Oh yeah, new materials to Aboriginals

I'd be impressed if they found pieces of glass, ground them to precision, put them inside a didgeridoo and used their brand new high power telescope to discover a new moon of Jupiter. Cheesy

Finding a piece of glass on the ground and using it to cut things, I'd be impressed if a bonobo did that. Not a human.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-21/artefacts-show-coexistence-between-aborigi...

If want a reasonableness explanation on why different societies be evolved differently, read Jared diamond's Guns, Germs and Steel. This attributes environmental factors to urbanisation, writing and division of labour.

that book is ok, but its obsession with ruling out biology and/or genetics does it no favours.

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Reply #268 - Mar 9^th, 2017 at 4:46pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Mar 9^th, 2017 at 4:41pm:

Auggie wrote on Mar 9^th, 2017 at 4:36pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 1:14pm:

So we're extolling the virtues of Aboriginals because they managed to pick up bits of broken glass and realised they were sharp and they could cut things with them.

The glass shows that Aboriginal people were here and were utilising new materials, changing their technology, their technique of making artifacts

Hang on what, new materials? Oh yeah, new materials to Aboriginals

I'd be impressed if they found pieces of glass, ground them to precision, put them inside a didgeridoo and used their brand new high power telescope to discover a new moon of Jupiter. Cheesy

Finding a piece of glass on the ground and using it to cut things, I'd be impressed if a bonobo did that. Not a human.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-21/artefacts-show-coexistence-between-aborigi...

If want a reasonableness explanation on why different societies be evolved differently, read Jared diamond's Guns, Germs and Steel. This attributes environmental factors to urbanisation, writing and division of labour.

that book is ok, but its obsession with ruling out biology and/or genetics does it no favours.

Ooh. You're treading on controversial ground here. Biology and genetics have NOTHING to do with the development of societies. This is an established fact. Such theories are considered pseudo-science.

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Reply #269 - Mar 9^th, 2017 at 4:49pm

Auggie wrote on Mar 9^th, 2017 at 4:36pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 1:14pm:

So we're extolling the virtues of Aboriginals because they managed to pick up bits of broken glass and realised they were sharp and they could cut things with them.

The glass shows that Aboriginal people were here and were utilising new materials, changing their technology, their technique of making artifacts

Hang on what, new materials? Oh yeah, new materials to Aboriginals

I'd be impressed if they found pieces of glass, ground them to precision, put them inside a didgeridoo and used their brand new high power telescope to discover a new moon of Jupiter. Cheesy

Finding a piece of glass on the ground and using it to cut things, I'd be impressed if a bonobo did that. Not a human.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-21/artefacts-show-coexistence-between-aborigi...

If want a reasonableness explanation on why different societies be evolved differently, read Jared diamond's Guns, Germs and Steel. This attributes environmental factors to urbanisation, writing and division of labour.

I agree with the conclusions and I don't attribute biological differences to the advancement of societies but I am more than happy to declare that some cultures are better than others.

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