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Re: Aboriginals adapted
Reply #45 - Feb 22nd, 2017 at 7:45pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 7:42pm:
Gnads wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 7:00pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 5:04pm:
Valkie wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 6:35am:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 21st, 2017 at 7:53pm:
Valkie wrote on Feb 21st, 2017 at 7:42pm:
Firstly, Aboriginals were not even at stone age.
They had not even started attaching stones to sticks.
They use sharpened bits of wood for spears.


Valkie, your racism is quite stupid.  I'd recommend you do a google search before you put your feet into your mouth again.   It might help you to understand the level of technology that Indigenous Australians had at the time of Colonisation by the English...

Of course, being ignorant is something you excel in, now isn't it?   Tsk, tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Me A racist, you an imbecile.

As I explained, I am not the racist, you are, anything white is RACIST to you.


Valkie, you're full of bullshit, you realise that?

You're the one displaying your racism at every drop of a hat.  It's all about the colour of a person's skin/shape of their eyes/thickness of their lips/etc. to you.  People are stupid because they are black/yellow/red/purpie.   Stop being a fool.   It's embarrassing to read that someone can be as ignorant as you in the 21st century.

Indigenous Australians had a complex society, some were nomads, some were semi-settled, some were settled.   Some practised agriculture, some aquaculture and some hunter-gatherers.  It all depends on where they lived.   Time to catch up with the findings of 21st century archaeology.  It is revealing as to what early 20th century settlers hid or ignored rather than admitting.   If you opened your mind, it might even educated you.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


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Yep .... keep on making it up & more outlandish at every turn.

That's what whitey academic PC wankers do wholesale.

If Aboriginal people can't explain something to do with their history .....

along come whitey wankers who concoct a suitable (but unbelievable) history to show something that never was.


Oh, dear, more ad hominem, Gnads?  I thought better of you but obviously I was mistaken.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes

What is it that scares you so much that you cannot admit that Indigenous Australians had a complex society and culture?   Are you frightened to admit that in case it implicates White, Colonial, Anglo-Saxon/Celtic settlers in destroying it?   Are you ashamed to admit it?   I'm not.  It's history, it cannot be changed, the perpetrators are all long gone.   Today, we can attempt to correct the mistakes of the past and live together as one society whereas in the past it was a case of two or more societies, with one lording it over all the others.  Hardly equitable, I'd suggest.  We are all Australians now, Gnads.

Why are you so afraid to admit that Archaeology might have discovered things that the White settlers hid or deliberately ignored to salve their consciousnesses over what they did to their fellow Australians?   Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
Why would white settlers hide aboriginal achievements?  Huh
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Re: Aboriginals adapted
Reply #46 - Feb 22nd, 2017 at 7:47pm
 
Gnads wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 6:55pm:
No I dislike people like you who hide behind a facade to call people racists, xenophobes & weasel words like Islamophobe.


Well, there is a way to fix that.  It's very easy.  It's to accept your fellow human beings as human beings and stop sprouting Racist/Xenophobic/Islamophobic arguments.  Stop denigrating people because of the colour of their skin/their origins/their religion.  Do that and I'll stop calling you Racist/Xenophobic/Islamophobic.  Sounds like a fair deal to me.   Roll Eyes

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As for your self aggrandising bullshit about alien species you should go live in a remote community.


Are you ashamed to admit that Indigenous Australians are your fellow human beings, Gnads?  And you wonder why I call you a racist?  Really?  Tsk, tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Most archaeologists agree with you?


You appear to have a problem with me saying that I know multiple Archaeologists, Gnads.  I wonder why?  Are you jealous?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes

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What .... that you're a PC knowall fossil?


Nope, just a well travelled, well educated Australian.   Do you dislike that for some reason?  Roll Eyes
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Aboriginals adapted
Reply #47 - Feb 22nd, 2017 at 7:49pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 7:45pm:
Why would white settlers hide aboriginal achievements?  Huh


Because otherwise they would have to admit that they were actually engaged in ethnic cleansing, Hammer.   Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
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Re: Aboriginals adapted
Reply #48 - Feb 22nd, 2017 at 7:51pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 7:49pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 7:45pm:
Why would white settlers hide aboriginal achievements?  Huh


Because otherwise they would have to admit that they were actually engaged in ethnic cleansing, Hammer.   Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes

So they hid aboriginal achievements so they wouldn't have to admit to ethnic cleansing?? That makes sense? Is that what being  educated gets you?
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Reply #49 - Feb 22nd, 2017 at 7:54pm
 
Nobody's saying aboriginals are not people worthy of health and happiness and hopefully they can fully move in to modernity and no doubt in the future this will happen,  but don't try and make their culture to be something it wasn't.  It was the most basic example of humanity on the planet. 

Saying that picking up broken glass and using it is some major achievement is just a farce
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Re: Aboriginals adapted
Reply #50 - Feb 22nd, 2017 at 8:22pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 7:42pm:
Gnads wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 7:00pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 5:04pm:
Valkie wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 6:35am:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 21st, 2017 at 7:53pm:
Valkie wrote on Feb 21st, 2017 at 7:42pm:
Firstly, Aboriginals were not even at stone age.
They had not even started attaching stones to sticks.
They use sharpened bits of wood for spears.


Valkie, your racism is quite stupid.  I'd recommend you do a google search before you put your feet into your mouth again.   It might help you to understand the level of technology that Indigenous Australians had at the time of Colonisation by the English...

Of course, being ignorant is something you excel in, now isn't it?   Tsk, tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Me A racist, you an imbecile.

As I explained, I am not the racist, you are, anything white is RACIST to you.


Valkie, you're full of bullshit, you realise that?

You're the one displaying your racism at every drop of a hat.  It's all about the colour of a person's skin/shape of their eyes/thickness of their lips/etc. to you.  People are stupid because they are black/yellow/red/purpie.   Stop being a fool.   It's embarrassing to read that someone can be as ignorant as you in the 21st century.

Indigenous Australians had a complex society, some were nomads, some were semi-settled, some were settled.   Some practised agriculture, some aquaculture and some hunter-gatherers.  It all depends on where they lived.   Time to catch up with the findings of 21st century archaeology.  It is revealing as to what early 20th century settlers hid or ignored rather than admitting.   If you opened your mind, it might even educated you.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


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Yep .... keep on making it up & more outlandish at every turn.

That's what whitey academic PC wankers do wholesale.

If Aboriginal people can't explain something to do with their history .....

along come whitey wankers who concoct a suitable (but unbelievable) history to show something that never was.


Oh, dear, more ad hominem, Gnads?  I thought better of you but obviously I was mistaken.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes

What is it that scares you so much that you cannot admit that Indigenous Australians had a complex society and culture?   Are you frightened to admit that in case it implicates White, Colonial, Anglo-Saxon/Celtic settlers in destroying it?   Are you ashamed to admit it?   I'm not.  It's history, it cannot be changed, the perpetrators are all long gone.   Today, we can attempt to correct the mistakes of the past and live together as one society whereas in the past it was a case of two or more societies, with one lording it over all the others.  Hardly equitable, I'd suggest.  We are all Australians now, Gnads.

Why are you so afraid to admit that Archaeology might have discovered things that the White settlers hid or deliberately ignored to salve their consciousnesses over what they did to their fellow Australians?   Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes



If it is one thing that is proven about Aboriginal culture it was their ability to survive in all environments across this continent .... primitively survive

and they did that well.

All the rest you espouse is just fanciful bulldust.
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Re: Aboriginals adapted
Reply #51 - Feb 22nd, 2017 at 9:39pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 7:51pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 7:49pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 7:45pm:
Why would white settlers hide aboriginal achievements?  Huh


Because otherwise they would have to admit that they were actually engaged in ethnic cleansing, Hammer.   Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes

So they hid aboriginal achievements so they wouldn't have to admit to ethnic cleansing?? That makes sense? Is that what being  educated gets you?


Oh, dearie, dearie me.  Tsk, tsk.  Hammer, you really need to read more about the Stolen Generations, the patronising of Indigenous Australians, the destruction of their culture and their society.   Pay particular attention to the theories of why White, Colonial, Anglo-Saxon/Celtic settlers did those things.  You might find it educational.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #52 - Feb 22nd, 2017 at 9:40pm
 
Gordon wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 7:54pm:
Nobody's saying aboriginals are not people worthy of health and happiness and hopefully they can fully move in to modernity and no doubt in the future this will happen,  but don't try and make their culture to be something it wasn't.  It was the most basic example of humanity on the planet. 


Was it?  You have evidence to back that racist assertion, Gordon?  Please present it.

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Saying that picking up broken glass and using it is some major achievement is just a farce


Tsk, tsk, more racism.  Being adaptable and utilising the materials to hand is now a "farce" in your view?    Roll Eyes
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Reply #53 - Feb 22nd, 2017 at 9:43pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 12:51am:
rhino wrote on Feb 21st, 2017 at 11:12pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 21st, 2017 at 11:03pm:
   Genetically, they are identical to you and me and every other human being.  I know that annoys you because of your racism but that is the scientific fact that has been discovered since the mapping of the Human Genome.   
Just not correct Brian, you need to stop making things up. Aboriginals have up to 3 percent Denisovian DNA which white and Asian peoples do not have. Science has shown that they are not identical to us.


3% is statistically insignificant, Rhino.   It is insufficient to prevent them being able to breed with other human beings.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
But they are not genetically identical to us.
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Reply #54 - Feb 22nd, 2017 at 9:44pm
 
Gnads wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 8:22pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 7:42pm:
Gnads wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 7:00pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 5:04pm:
Valkie wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 6:35am:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 21st, 2017 at 7:53pm:
Valkie wrote on Feb 21st, 2017 at 7:42pm:
Firstly, Aboriginals were not even at stone age.
They had not even started attaching stones to sticks.
They use sharpened bits of wood for spears.


Valkie, your racism is quite stupid.  I'd recommend you do a google search before you put your feet into your mouth again.   It might help you to understand the level of technology that Indigenous Australians had at the time of Colonisation by the English...

Of course, being ignorant is something you excel in, now isn't it?   Tsk, tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Me A racist, you an imbecile.

As I explained, I am not the racist, you are, anything white is RACIST to you.


Valkie, you're full of bullshit, you realise that?

You're the one displaying your racism at every drop of a hat.  It's all about the colour of a person's skin/shape of their eyes/thickness of their lips/etc. to you.  People are stupid because they are black/yellow/red/purpie.   Stop being a fool.   It's embarrassing to read that someone can be as ignorant as you in the 21st century.

Indigenous Australians had a complex society, some were nomads, some were semi-settled, some were settled.   Some practised agriculture, some aquaculture and some hunter-gatherers.  It all depends on where they lived.   Time to catch up with the findings of 21st century archaeology.  It is revealing as to what early 20th century settlers hid or ignored rather than admitting.   If you opened your mind, it might even educated you.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Yep .... keep on making it up & more outlandish at every turn.

That's what whitey academic PC wankers do wholesale.

If Aboriginal people can't explain something to do with their history .....

along come whitey wankers who concoct a suitable (but unbelievable) history to show something that never was.


Oh, dear, more ad hominem, Gnads?  I thought better of you but obviously I was mistaken.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes

What is it that scares you so much that you cannot admit that Indigenous Australians had a complex society and culture?   Are you frightened to admit that in case it implicates White, Colonial, Anglo-Saxon/Celtic settlers in destroying it?   Are you ashamed to admit it?   I'm not.  It's history, it cannot be changed, the perpetrators are all long gone.   Today, we can attempt to correct the mistakes of the past and live together as one society whereas in the past it was a case of two or more societies, with one lording it over all the others.  Hardly equitable, I'd suggest.  We are all Australians now, Gnads.

Why are you so afraid to admit that Archaeology might have discovered things that the White settlers hid or deliberately ignored to salve their consciousnesses over what they did to their fellow Australians?   Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes



If it is one thing that is proven about Aboriginal culture it was their ability to survive in all environments across this continent .... primitively survive

and they did that well.

All the rest you espouse is just fanciful bulldust.


Still denying the science?  Tsk, tsk.  Gnads, you're just showing how racist your thinking is.  You are continually denigrated your fellow Australians.   You disgust me.   Crawl back under your rock.  The grown ups have things to discuss.   I've given you a good innings, I have presented proof to back my assertions and you have just discounted them, claiming that Indigenous Australians' achievements are "just fanciful bulldust".   Absolutely disgusting.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Aboriginals adapted
Reply #55 - Feb 22nd, 2017 at 9:47pm
 
rhino wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 9:43pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 12:51am:
rhino wrote on Feb 21st, 2017 at 11:12pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 21st, 2017 at 11:03pm:
   Genetically, they are identical to you and me and every other human being.  I know that annoys you because of your racism but that is the scientific fact that has been discovered since the mapping of the Human Genome.   
Just not correct Brian, you need to stop making things up. Aboriginals have up to 3 percent Denisovian DNA which white and Asian peoples do not have. Science has shown that they are not identical to us.


3% is statistically insignificant, Rhino.   It is insufficient to prevent them being able to breed with other human beings.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
But they are not genetically identical to us.


Essentially within a few percent, they are.   They are members of the same species as all other humans - Homo Sapien Sapiens.   Until you can present Genetic proof that they are sufficiently different Genetically, you're just talking racist bullshit.  Run along, Hammer.   Oh, and BTW, there are people who have more than 3% Denisovian DNA in their makeup.  Are they a different species?    Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #56 - Feb 22nd, 2017 at 11:02pm
 
Genetically modified by the intervention of White sperm.................
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Reply #57 - Feb 22nd, 2017 at 11:05pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 9:47pm:
rhino wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 9:43pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 12:51am:
rhino wrote on Feb 21st, 2017 at 11:12pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 21st, 2017 at 11:03pm:
   Genetically, they are identical to you and me and every other human being.  I know that annoys you because of your racism but that is the scientific fact that has been discovered since the mapping of the Human Genome.   
Just not correct Brian, you need to stop making things up. Aboriginals have up to 3 percent Denisovian DNA which white and Asian peoples do not have. Science has shown that they are not identical to us.


3% is statistically insignificant, Rhino.   It is insufficient to prevent them being able to breed with other human beings.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
But they are not genetically identical to us.


Essentially within a few percent, they are.   They are members of the same species as all other humans - Homo Sapien Sapiens.   Until you can present Genetic proof that they are sufficiently different Genetically, you're just talking racist bullshit.  Run along, Hammer.   Oh, and BTW, there are people who have more than 3% Denisovian DNA in their makeup.  Are they a different species?    Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
You appear not to understand the meaning of the word identical. Why use words if you dont know their meaning?
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Reply #58 - Feb 22nd, 2017 at 11:05pm
 
Gnads wrote on Feb 21st, 2017 at 1:49pm:
Valkie wrote on Feb 21st, 2017 at 1:32pm:
O.M.G

Are we really going down that path.
Genuflecting to some primitives who picked up a dit of discarded glass and calling it evolutionary advancement.

The next thing will be us extolling the skill and adaptability of Aboriginals in being able to use a toilet and mobile phone.

It just goes to show how little this culture realy has to offer.


Yes ... they even had Universities, ran export & import businesses and built stone houses/towns/a city

on a remote island off the West Australian coast.

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Take a close look at every conical hill you drive past - underneath each one is an Aboriginal pyramid or university or observatory - they were all buried by the Captain Cooks in accordance with the decree of 1789.... archeologists in future times will rack their brains trying to work out which conical hills fit that bill...
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Reply #59 - Feb 22nd, 2017 at 11:08pm
 
When will Abouriginals ever learn.
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