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Feb 23rd, 2017 at 9:07pm
 
I'd watch that:

ABC: host a debate between Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Yassmin Abdul-Magied regarding Islam

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https://www.change.org/p/australian-broadcasting-corporation-abc-host-a-debate-between-ayaan-hirsi-ali-and-yassmin-abdul-magied-regarding-islam

On February 13th, during an episode of the taxpayer-funded ABC's flagship current affairs program Q&A, invited guest and ABC contributor Yassmin Abdul-Magied became involved in a heated exchange with Tasmanian Senator, Jacqui Lambie.

During the discussion, Ms Abdul-Magied argued that Islam is a feminist religion while defending the implementation of Sharia in Australia.

After widespread condemnation of her comments, Ms Abdel-Magied sought advice from anti-LGBT and anti-woman Islamist organisation Hizb ut-Tahrir spokesman, Wassim Doureihi on his private Facebook page.

Mr Doureihi criticised Ms Abdel-Magied for her inability to argue Islamic doctrine forcefully and stated that her defence of Sharia was problematic.

In response, Ms Abdel-Magied replied: "What specifically was problematic and how can I do better in the future inshallah? I am young, (sic) and willing to learn, inshallah. Trying to do the best with the platform I can, Allah willing.”

Mr Doureihi continued that Ms Abdel-Magied had “ended up framing Islam through a secular lens, aimed at a secular people and conscious of the presence of a secular government.” Mr Doureighi then suggested that they continue their conversation in a private message thread.

Following the broadcast of the original episode of Q&A, ABC has been targeted with a petition on Change.org by Muslim leaders.

"Whilst you may view last night as an opportunity to boost ratings at the expense of fairness and respect to panelists, and members of minority communities, we view the bullying that occurred on last night's TV show as a clear example of further deterrence for Muslim youth to engage in public platforms,” the petition reads.

"We demand an apology from Q&A for its poor handling of the debate and for its failure to uphold its values of respect and integrity."

In response, a counter petition was started calling on the ABC to condemn and sack Ms Abdel-Magied.

We don’t believe that anyone should be fired for exercising their freedom of speech, but we do believe that in a free and open society, ideas should be challenged in as large a forum as possible.

Ayaan Hirsi Ali is an outspoken critic of Islam, and in particular, the treatment of women, children and sexual minorities under Sharia.

Born in Somalia to devoutly Muslim parents, Hirsi Ali was subjected to female genital mutilation as a child and escaped an arranged marriage in 1992 when she was granted asylum in the Netherlands. Fleeing Europe after the execution-style murder of her friend and colleague Theo van Gogh and explicit threats made against her by Muslim extremists, Hirsi Ali has nevertheless continued her work advocating for the rights of minority groups threatened by the implementation of Sharia around the world.

Ms Abdul-Magied is entirely free to express her own opinion about feminism and Islam. We feel it is appropriate, however, that these views are challenged in a public forum by someone more knowledgable, and whose understanding of these issues more nuanced than those of Senator Lambie.

Ayaan Hirsi Ali will be visiting Australia during the first two weeks of April as part of her speaking tour. We ask that the ABC host a debate between Yassmin Abdul-Magied and Ayaan Hirsi Ali, on the specific merits or not of Sharia and Islamic doctrine in relation to women’s rights.
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Reply #1 - Feb 23rd, 2017 at 9:17pm
 
Isn't she on a terrorist watch list as an islamophobe?
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Reply #2 - Feb 23rd, 2017 at 9:20pm
 


I will be surprised if the ABC let Ayaan Hirsi Ali speak her views without interference from a so called moderator

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Reply #3 - Feb 23rd, 2017 at 9:28pm
 
This sums up the moral confusion of the left on Islam



For decades, the Southern Poverty Law Center has been the go-to media source on violent extremism. Sadly, it no longer deserves the trust its crusading work once merited.

In recent years, the SPLC’s leftism has prompted it to lump mainstream conservative groups it dislikes in with such dregs of political hatred as the Ku Klux Klan.

And now it has issued what one critic rightly calls “the white left’s first fatwa” against two liberal crusaders for reform within the Muslim world, labeling them “anti-Muslim extremists.”

The two are among 15 people included in a new SPLC “field guide” that self-righteously declares their views “toxic” and “far outside the political mainstream.”

One is Aayan Hirsi Ali, the Somali-born activist against female genital mutilation and Islamic repression of women — who has herself faced death threats from Muslim extremists.

The other is Maajid Nawaz, a British-Pakistani former radical Muslim who now campaigns against both extremism and anti-Muslim hate. The SPLC’s “evidence” against Nawaz includes that he once posted a cartoon of the Prophet Muhammad, “which many Muslims see as blasphemous.”

That kind of rhetoric could easily be read as a justification for the deadly terrorist attacks on the Paris magazine Charlie Hebdo; it’s appalling to see the SPLC indulge in it.

As the editors of National Review have noted, Hirsi Ali and Nawaz are doing the work that the SPLC itself should be doing — fighting violent extremism. Yet it denounces them for it.

The SPLC’s blatant bias has been painfully obvious for some time now. It investigates and denounces only “extremism” that can be said to emanate from the right.

That its unfounded accusations are still taken seriously is yet another blot on the equally skewed US news media.

http://nypost.com/2016/11/05/anti-extremist-watchdog-condemns-anti-extremists/
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Reply #4 - Feb 23rd, 2017 at 10:22pm
 
Why would Ali waste her time with this regressive left apologist?
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