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The Mess called the Middle East...
Feb 25th, 2017 at 9:42pm
 
Well the LW Progs like to blame The West for the mess we have today.  Too much outside influence and intervention they say.  Sykes-Picot some others shout.  Some are even more specific...  they simply blame the US.  Why not?  A great many Muslims blame the US...  The Great Satan. 

Many Muslims have a tendency to blame anyone but themselves.  None of it is there fault.  None of it is due to Islam.  Islam is the Religion of Peace and of course the LW Progs swallow that like a big-mouthed Bass and regurgitate it ad nauseam.  Israel is to blame... more specifically those "ape" and "pig" Jews are to blame.  They should be wiped of the face of the Earth, they are the cause of all  the world's ills.

No one would have talked of a Jordanian identity centuries ago, but a nation now exists.  It's territorial integrity means a great deal no doubt, to the Jordanian people.  We have calls for a Palestinian state.  Why?  Jordan which previously didn't exist, takes up most of the British Mandate of Palestine.  But this issue is just one of many that is included in the mess.

The mess of the Middle East today, then, is not really about the legitimacy of the borders or of places like Syria, Iraq, or Libya. The origin of the mess within these countries is over who has the right to rule them.  The ME has always been a mess of tribes and conflicts. The Syrian conflict began as an uprising by all manner of Syrians — men and women, young and old, Sunni, Shiite, Kurdish, and even Alawite — against an unfair and corrupt autocrat, just as Libyans, Egyptians, Yemenis, etc, did back in 2010/11.  The weaknesses and contradictions of authoritarian regimes are at the centre of the ME’s ongoing problems. Even the rampant ethnic and religious sectarianism is a result of this authoritarianism, which has come to define the Middle East’s states...  Today we have the ultimate version in the ISIL Caliphate.

In Iraq, Saddam Hussein built a system through his ruling Baath Party that empowered a state governed largely by Sunnis at the expense of Shiites and Kurds.

Bashar al-Assad and his father before him, ruled by building a network of supporters where members of his Alawite sect enjoyed privileged space in the inner circle.

The Wahhabi worldview of Saudi Arabia’s leaders strongly encourages a sectarian interpretation of the country’s struggle with Iran for regional hegemony.

Salafi groups are the same, battling for supremacy in Syria, Iraq, and Yemen.

The elephant in the room... is a dysfunctional and fractured Islam the overarching reason that Muslims cannot get on with each other or others in the ME?
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Reply #1 - Feb 25th, 2017 at 9:53pm
 
Mururoa, Maralinga,Monte Bello,, they should all have been done in the mid east



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Reply #2 - Feb 25th, 2017 at 9:54pm
 
Well you could wall them all in and give them a bomb each mike.
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Reply #3 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 10:19am
 
The only way to get a state that is "functioning" by our standards is through democratic processes, but there are far to many Muslims who are ideologically opposed to democracy. That's the crux of the problem. That is why so many Australian Muslims decided it was a good idea to travel to the most backwards place on earth to join in the rape and pillage. They look at the same thing as us, but they do not see death, oppression, rape and squalor. They see an Islamic utopia.

Aussie on the other hand has a far simpler, if somewhat racist, solution - Arabia is for Arabs. Let the progroms begin.
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Reply #4 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 10:27am
 
In the USA they have nutjobs like the serpent handling churches, they're probably equally on par with the religious nutjobs in the ME.

Now ask yourself, what would it take for the serpent handlers who take control of the USA, and why is it SO easy for nutjobs to take control in the Middle East, time and time again.
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Reply #5 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 11:16am
 



why is it SO easy for nutjobs to take control in the Middle East, time and time again.


Low IQ,s from hundreds of years of inbreeding,,, plus goat phuking does not help
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Reply #6 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 11:44am
 
No nutjob ever becomes a leader in the Middle East without the blessing of Uncle SAM.

Look at the mess Uncle SAM made of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria.

The USA will never leave Afghanistan.
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Reply #7 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 11:49am
 
Unforgiven wrote on Feb 26th, 2017 at 11:44am:
No nutjob ever becomes a leader in the Middle East without the blessing of Uncle SAM.

Look at the mess Uncle SAM made of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria.

The USA will never leave Afghanistan.



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Reply #8 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 12:27pm
 



Any person who identifies as a moslem, any person who insists that he is a moslem, is not fit to live in our society, imo.

Moslems [even the moslems who live among us] look upon Western nations/societies, simply as a place of comfort and prosperity, which moslems deserve to possess - DESERVE, SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY ARE MOSLEMS.

Their ideology, [ISLAM] simply ingrains into their psyche a 'sense' of entitlement - ENTITLEMENT, SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY ARE MOSLEMS.

And ISLAM has already taught moslems [from childhood!] that all that the infidels have, rightfully belongs to them [moslems], as the proxies for Allah on this earth.

All the moslem need do, is to rouse himself, and take it!    -    JIHAD



Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1427968785/3#3
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All moslems in Australia, choose to follow and give support to a criminal philosophy.

ISLAM is a violent criminal philosophy, which makes 'lawful' [for moslems] behaviours, which are violent criminal acts [by our laws!].

Moslems do not deserve to enjoy the human rights that are afforded to Australians.

Moslems do not deserve, to enjoy living in a nation like Australia, as citizens [and as persons who are entitled to vote for lawmakers in our parliaments!].


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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1424590530/17#17
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The heart of ISLAM is the Koran
  [and heart of the Koran, is the ideas and ideals it contains].





SO WHAT DOES THE KORAN SAY ABOUT MOSLEMS LIVING IN PEACE WITH DISBELIEVERS ? ;

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No moslem, is the friend of a disbeliever, EVER......

"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."   [i.e. is NOT a moslem in the eyes of Allah]
Koran 5.51



"....the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies."
Koran 4.101


"......the curse of Allah is on those without Faith."
Koran 2.089


"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123


"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."
Koran 9.111




"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4




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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431117115/1#1
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"every moslem in Australia is a latent, wanna-be homicidal maniac"

- Yadda



QUESTION;
What about the innocent moslems ?

IMO, [logically] there are no innocent moslems [among persons who have come to the age of consent], and yet still declare themselves to be moslems.

How so [logically] ?

QUESTION;
How credible is it that a person who is devout enough to insist that he is a moslem, is unaware of what ISLAM promotes, and is unaware of what the principle tenets of ISLAM are ?


QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'],      ...to a philosophy which transforms human beings, into homicidal maniacs ?


QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'],     ...to a philosophy which claims that murdering, in the cause of religious bigotry, is a religious virtue ?



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Re: The Mess called the Middle East...
Reply #9 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 12:38pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Feb 26th, 2017 at 11:44am:
No nutjob ever becomes a leader in the Middle East without the blessing of Uncle SAM.


And with very good reason. It was only relatively recently that we managed to stop Muslim countries raiding Europe and Africa for slaves.
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Reply #10 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 4:56pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 26th, 2017 at 12:38pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Feb 26th, 2017 at 11:44am:
No nutjob ever becomes a leader in the Middle East without the blessing of Uncle SAM.


And with very good reason. It was only relatively recently that we managed to stop Muslim countries raiding Europe and Africa for slaves.


That's right. We ended up buying up all their stock, but only because we were so impressed by their product's subhuman retardation levels.
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Reply #11 - Feb 27th, 2017 at 2:36pm
 
Ah yes another top notch contribution from karnal.
thanks mate Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy
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Reply #12 - Feb 27th, 2017 at 2:59pm
 
Grendel wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 2:36pm:
Ah yes another top notch contribution from karnal.
thanks mate Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy


No worries. Muslims have IQs under 81 - a scientific fact.

What's yours?
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Reply #13 - Feb 27th, 2017 at 3:11pm
 
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The elephant in the room... is a dysfunctional and fractured Islam the overarching reason that Muslims cannot get on with each other or others in the ME?


Of course it is....that's the way its been since time immemorial. 

And......it has SFA to do with us now, just like it had SFA to do with us for all of that time.

Arabia is for Arabs.  Maybe the West ought try something novel........get the farq out of there, yesterday.
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Reply #14 - Feb 27th, 2017 at 3:13pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 26th, 2017 at 12:38pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Feb 26th, 2017 at 11:44am:
No nutjob ever becomes a leader in the Middle East without the blessing of Uncle SAM.


And with very good reason. It was only relatively recently that we managed to stop Muslim countries raiding Europe and Africa for slaves.


UK and USA didn't like business competition.
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