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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18733 Gender:	Saudi ambassador- Atheists are terrorists Mar 4^th, 2017 at 11:03am youtube.com/watch?v=K2WIuuzHSRA I guess we can expect the usual spineless apologists to defend this.
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BigOl64 Gold Member Offline Posts: 14438 Townsville QLD Gender:	Re: Saudi ambassador- Atheists are terrorists Reply #1 - Mar 4^th, 2017 at 11:06am If you believe the apologists terrorism has no religion.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Saudi ambassador- Atheists are terrorists Reply #2 - Mar 4^th, 2017 at 11:06am Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 11:03am: I guess we can expect the usual spineless apologists to defend this. Indeed you can Baron - starting with Trump, and the Australian government.
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Reply #3 - Mar 4^th, 2017 at 11:09am

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 11:06am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 11:03am:

I guess we can expect the usual spineless apologists to defend this.

Indeed you can Baron - starting with Trump, and the Australian government.

Can you cite where Trump or the Australian government has stated atheists are terrorists?

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Reply #4 - Mar 4^th, 2017 at 11:15am

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 11:09am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 11:06am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 11:03am:

I guess we can expect the usual spineless apologists to defend this.

Indeed you can Baron - starting with Trump, and the Australian government.

Can you cite where Trump or the Australian government has stated atheists are terrorists?

Thats not what I'm saying Baron.

Tell me, were you just a little bit miffed that Saudi Arabia was left off Trump's immigration ban list?

Have you ever heard Trump or the Australian government condemn this sort of rhetoric by the Saudi Arabian government? How would you describe our diplomatic relations with Saudi Arabia? Do you think "apologetic" is an apt description of our government's attitude towards Saudi Arabian atrocities?

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Reply #5 - Mar 4^th, 2017 at 11:35am

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 11:15am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 11:09am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 11:06am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 11:03am:

I guess we can expect the usual spineless apologists to defend this.

Indeed you can Baron - starting with Trump, and the Australian government.

Can you cite where Trump or the Australian government has stated atheists are terrorists?

Thats not what I'm saying Baron.

Tell me, were you just a little bit miffed that Saudi Arabia was left off Trump's immigration ban list?

Have you ever heard Trump or the Australian government condemn this sort of rhetoric by the Saudi Arabian government? How would you describe our diplomatic relations with Saudi Arabia? Do you think "apologetic" is an apt description of our government's attitude towards Saudi Arabian atrocities?

When did Obama say anything bad about the Saudis, what about Labor or the Greens can you cite any criticism of the Saudis from them?

As for Trumps list was that the same as Obama's list, why is it an issue when Trump adopted the same policy as Obama?
theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/01/28/epic-is-team-trump-baiting-liberal-media...

Did the ABC recently have a woman who claimed it was Saudi culture and not Islamic culture for the backwardness of the Saudis? Does that contradict what the Saudi ambassador said about Islam in Saudi Arabia?

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Reply #6 - Mar 4^th, 2017 at 11:49am

Baron you're not making any sort of argument simply by saying "the leftards do it too".

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 11:35am:

As for Trumps list was that the same as Obama's list, why is it an issue when Trump adopted the same policy as Obama?

Firstly Obama instituted no blanket ban on immigrants from that list of countries - so what the flying truck are you on about with "the same policy as Obama"?

Secondly, Trump is the issue here, not Obama. He's the messiah you lot worship for sticking it to the leftards and trampling all over political correctness.

So perhaps you can point me to where Trump has reversed all the apologism and tip-toeing around Islam vis-a-vis Saudi Arabia? Anything to date? Even a single word of condemnation againt the ideological extremes that is mainstream in Saudi politics? Or are you willing to concede that Trump is just another apologist for Islamism - just like Obama?

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Saudi ambassador- Atheists are terrorists Reply #7 - Mar 4^th, 2017 at 11:59am polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 11:06am: Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 11:03am: I guess we can expect the usual spineless apologists to defend this. Indeed you can Baron - starting with Trump, and the Australian government. What about Trump and the Australian government exactly?
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Reply #8 - Mar 4^th, 2017 at 12:03pm

Grendel wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 11:59am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 11:06am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 11:03am:

I guess we can expect the usual spineless apologists to defend this.

Indeed you can Baron - starting with Trump, and the Australian government.

What about Trump and the Australian government exactly?

Apologising for Saudi extremism.

Shall I read you the latest press release by Julie Bishop praising Saudi Arabia as a valued trading partner?

Perhaps you can find me a statement or even a tweet by Trump and/or the Australian government condemning the Saudi government for instituting thought crimes.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #9 - Mar 4^th, 2017 at 12:39pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 12:03pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 11:59am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 11:06am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 11:03am:

I guess we can expect the usual spineless apologists to defend this.

Indeed you can Baron - starting with Trump, and the Australian government.

What about Trump and the Australian government exactly?

Apologising for Saudi extremism.

Shall I read you the latest press release by Julie Bishop praising Saudi Arabia as a valued trading partner?

Perhaps you can find me a statement or even a tweet by Trump and/or the Australian government condemning the Saudi government for instituting thought crimes.

Aren't they a valued Trade Partner? I asked you to support your claim... we have issues with trading partners... China, Indonesia just as examples... so make your point or recant.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Saudi ambassador- Atheists are terrorists Reply #10 - Mar 4^th, 2017 at 12:46pm not speaking out against human rights atrocities = apologism for said atrocities grendel. Especially among trade partners. Thats the support for my claim.
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Reply #11 - Mar 4^th, 2017 at 1:00pm

Come come, G. Australia exports wheat and mutton to Saudi Arabia. The Saudis invest massive amounts in our financial system. The Saudis invest in the Trump organisation. Trump has property in the UAE. Plenty of Saudis have an apartment in Trump tower. Oh, and if Saudi money was pulled out of US banks and funds, the US would suffer a credit panic to rival the Great Depression. Few remember the developing loans crisis of the early 1980s. When the US put restrictions on Saudi money, Mexico went bankrupt. It was the first time the IMF went in to rescue a non-member state.

Why would we complain about a bit of flogging and beheading?

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Reply #12 - Mar 4^th, 2017 at 1:03pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 12:46pm:

not speaking out against human rights atrocities = apologism for said atrocities grendel. Especially among trade partners. Thats the support for my claim.

Thats a strawman typical of your ilk.... address the topic...

You cant blame Trump or Australia for what the Saudis do or say... they are a Muslim soverign state.

Where has anyone you mentioned been a apologist for those things you think the Saudis should be blamed for?

Hey you should check out the UN and answer why some countries are chosen for things there, that will really do your head in.

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Reply #13 - Mar 4^th, 2017 at 1:45pm

Saudi ambassador- Atheists are terrorists

"There are only two races in the world, the decent and the indecent."

Victor Frankl - Nazi Holocaust survivor

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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1482184211/5#5
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Moslems are dangerous people.

Moslems are a danger to everyone who is not a moslem.

.....that is simply the nature of the beast.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2017 at 7:09pm:

Ah yes, "All Muslims are terrorists, and all terrorists are Muslims".

TRUE!

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"....the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood."

ISLAMIC religious scholar, Sayyid Qutb

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Moslems, are a group of people who follow a 'religion' [i.e. a death cult called ISLAM] which teaches the moslem that killing disbelievers is a wholly 'lawful' act.

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And that is how ISLAM is 'priming' the psyche, of every moslem, who we allow to live among us !!!

It can be 'fun' to allow people like moslems to live among us !

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Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar outside Parramatta police headquarters

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ISLAMIC culture encouraged Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar, to murder Australian Curtis Cheng.

Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar was inspired by ISLAM's imperative, which urged him TO KILL THE ENEMIES OF ALLAH.

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Moslems.

A moslem is a follower of ISLAM.    < -------- dictionary definition.

And ISLAM teaches the moslem, that all disbelievers are the enemies of Allah.    [Koran 2.98]

And ISLAMIC religious doctrine teaches, that the moslem who fights and kills an enemy of Allah, is a virtuous and good moslem.    [Koran 9.111]

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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: Saudi ambassador- Atheists are terrorists Reply #14 - Mar 4^th, 2017 at 2:12pm The Ambassador reinforces the fear that Islam is vulnerable to ideas. I hope he is correct.
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