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Islamists back sacked principal
Mar 8^th, 2017 at 6:46pm

What a surprise!

Islamic group backs sacked principal

The removal of the principal and deputy of a Sydney high school after a refusal to co-operate with an anti-radicalisation campaign is an “extremely worrying development”, according to controversial Muslim organisation Hizb ut-Tahrir.

A memo sent by the outfit, which has in the past espoused anti-gay and anti-women views, suggests Punchbowl Boys’ High School principal Chris Griffiths was removed “because of his reluctance to effectively criminalise his students by implementing the government’s deradicalisation programs”.

The controversy comes as federal Justice Minister Michael Keenan said young people remained vulnerable to extremist propaganda and as Iraq’s ambassador to Australia, Hussain Al-Ameri, warned that there were “sleeping colonies” of potential terrorists in the country.

Malcolm Turnbull, in Jakarta yesterday, said security agencies had access to enough “tools” to target radicalised youth, potential terrorists, and Australian citizens working for Islamic State abroad. “We take our counter-terrorism activities extremely seriously,” the Prime Minister said.

NSW Education Department secretary Mark Scott on Monday confirmed revelations in The Weekend Australian that the Punchbowl school had resisted the government’s School Community Working Together program. It followed earlier reports that Mr Griffiths and his deputy, Joumana Dennaoiu, had been dumped amid a backlash over the exclusion of female staff from official events held at the largely Muslim school.

Mr Griffith was replaced by Robert Patruno, who previously ran the education unit at Reiby Juvenile Justice Centre, a move which Hizb ut-Tahrir said “effectively treats the community, and specifically the youth, as criminals”.

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“The information that is slowly emerging (indicates) that this has been a witch hunt to remove a figure who refuses to buy into the pre-emptive criminalisation of a largely ‘Muslim’ school,” the memo reads.

It is understood Mr Griffiths and Ms Dennaoui are considering their legal options, amid concerns about the unusual nature of their removal from the school. Both are said to have been blindsided by the news that they were being removed and Mr Griffiths went on immediate sick leave late last week when he received information of the department’s impending action. It is understood neither Mr Griffiths nor his deputy have been briefed fully by the department regarding the results of the appraisal or reasons for the department’s decision.

While the Education Department has told The Australian it received numerous complaints from staff last year, it is understood that neither Mr Griffiths nor the Australian Education Union were made aware of those complaints.

The updated My School website reveals Punchbowl went backwards last year in NAPLAN tests.

It was below or substantially below similar schools on the basics of reading and writing, and was substantially below the Australian average.

In Year 7 reading, it had an average score of 469 last year, down 10 points from 2015. It also lost ground on spelling, grammar and punctuation, and numeracy. Students in Year 7 and 9, however, did better in persuasive writing than they did in 2015.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/education/islamic-group-backs-s...

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48827 At my desk.	Re: Islamists back sacked principal Reply #1 - Mar 8^th, 2017 at 7:07pm That should help him get his job back.
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20469 Gordon Gender:	Re: Islamists back sacked principal Reply #2 - Mar 8^th, 2017 at 7:09pm Greggy is in lockstep with HuT
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136054 Gender:	Re: Islamists back sacked principal Reply #3 - Mar 8^th, 2017 at 7:15pm Gordon wrote on Mar 8^th, 2017 at 6:46pm: What a surprise! Why does it surprise you?
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Reply #4 - Mar 8^th, 2017 at 7:24pm

Gordon wrote on Mar 8^th, 2017 at 6:46pm:

What a surprise!

Islamic group backs sacked principal

The removal of the principal and deputy of a Sydney high school after a refusal to co-operate with an anti-radicalisation campaign is an “extremely worrying development”, according to controversial Muslim organisation Hizb ut-Tahrir.

A memo sent by the outfit, which has in the past espoused anti-gay and anti-women views, suggests Punchbowl Boys’ High School principal Chris Griffiths was removed “because of his reluctance to effectively criminalise his students by implementing the government’s deradicalisation programs”.

The controversy comes as federal Justice Minister Michael Keenan said young people remained vulnerable to extremist propaganda and as Iraq’s ambassador to Australia, Hussain Al-Ameri, warned that there were “sleeping colonies” of potential terrorists in the country.

Malcolm Turnbull, in Jakarta yesterday, said security agencies had access to enough “tools” to target radicalised youth, potential terrorists, and Australian citizens working for Islamic State abroad. “We take our counter-terrorism activities extremely seriously,” the Prime Minister said.

NSW Education Department secretary Mark Scott on Monday confirmed revelations in The Weekend Australian that the Punchbowl school had resisted the government’s School Community Working Together program. It followed earlier reports that Mr Griffiths and his deputy, Joumana Dennaoiu, had been dumped amid a backlash over the exclusion of female staff from official events held at the largely Muslim school.

Mr Griffith was replaced by Robert Patruno, who previously ran the education unit at Reiby Juvenile Justice Centre, a move which Hizb ut-Tahrir said “effectively treats the community, and specifically the youth, as criminals”.

More: Who’s singing Australia’s song?

“The information that is slowly emerging (indicates) that this has been a witch hunt to remove a figure who refuses to buy into the pre-emptive criminalisation of a largely ‘Muslim’ school,” the memo reads.

It is understood Mr Griffiths and Ms Dennaoui are considering their legal options, amid concerns about the unusual nature of their removal from the school. Both are said to have been blindsided by the news that they were being removed and Mr Griffiths went on immediate sick leave late last week when he received information of the department’s impending action. It is understood neither Mr Griffiths nor his deputy have been briefed fully by the department regarding the results of the appraisal or reasons for the department’s decision.

While the Education Department has told The Australian it received numerous complaints from staff last year, it is understood that neither Mr Griffiths nor the Australian Education Union were made aware of those complaints.

The updated My School website reveals Punchbowl went backwards last year in NAPLAN tests.

It was below or substantially below similar schools on the basics of reading and writing, and was substantially below the Australian average.

In Year 7 reading, it had an average score of 469 last year, down 10 points from 2015. It also lost ground on spelling, grammar and punctuation, and numeracy. Students in Year 7 and 9, however, did better in persuasive writing than they did in 2015.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/education/islamic-group-backs-s...

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............. below or substantially below similar schools on the basics of reading and writing, and was substantially below the Australian average..................

Sure, but how are their bomb making skills progressing ?

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 40713	Re: Islamists back sacked principal Reply #5 - Mar 9^th, 2017 at 12:18am How does, "Islamic Group" get translated in your mind, Gordon to "Islamists"? You do realise, as I am sure you do, that "Islamists" are very different to Islamic Groups. You're an Islamophobe, aren't you, Gordon? Tsk, tsk.
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Reply #6 - Mar 9^th, 2017 at 8:50am

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 9^th, 2017 at 12:18am:

How does, "Islamic Group" get translated in your mind, Gordon to "Islamists"? You do realise, as I am sure you do, that "Islamists" are very different to Islamic Groups. You're an Islamophobe, aren't you, Gordon? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Brian support HuT.
At least your views are out in the open now.

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Reply #7 - Mar 10^th, 2017 at 12:15am

Gordon wrote on Mar 9^th, 2017 at 8:50am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 9^th, 2017 at 12:18am:

How does, "Islamic Group" get translated in your mind, Gordon to "Islamists"? You do realise, as I am sure you do, that "Islamists" are very different to Islamic Groups. You're an Islamophobe, aren't you, Gordon? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Brian support HuT.
At least your views are out in the open now.

"Islamic Groups" are very different to "Islamist groups", Gordon. Obviously your Islamophobia has blinded you to reality. Roll Eyes

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Reply #8 - Mar 10^th, 2017 at 12:17am

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 10^th, 2017 at 12:15am:

Gordon wrote on Mar 9^th, 2017 at 8:50am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 9^th, 2017 at 12:18am:

How does, "Islamic Group" get translated in your mind, Gordon to "Islamists"? You do realise, as I am sure you do, that "Islamists" are very different to Islamic Groups. You're an Islamophobe, aren't you, Gordon? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Brian support HuT.
At least your views are out in the open now.

"Islamic Groups" are very different to "Islamist groups", Gordon. Obviously your Islamophobia has blinded you to reality. Roll Eyes

May I ask you what an Islamist is?

edit: Not you Yadda, Brian.

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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 16448 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: Islamists back sacked principal Reply #9 - Mar 10^th, 2017 at 12:29am Greg? What is an Islamist? Is it something like a Buddhist or an atheist, a creationist? What does the ist suffix mean? I'm in need of a bit of pedantry.
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Reply #10 - Mar 10^th, 2017 at 12:37am

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 10^th, 2017 at 12:15am:

"Islamic Groups" are very different to "Islamist groups", Gordon.

"Islamic Groups" groups promote Allah's war against unbelief [Jihad].

While, "Islamist Groups" groups promote Allah's war against unbelief [Jihad] too.

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1/ "...Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith." [i.e. 'Unbelief' [in man] is a crime.].
Koran 2.98
[ - - The enemy of moslems is identified. All of 'unbelieving' mankind, are declared to be the enemy of moslems.]

2/ "...those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47:8-11
[ - - Here, it is clearly stated to every good moslem, that moslem enmity, violence, and warfare, against 'those who reject Faith', is morally justified, and 'lawful'. /sarc off]

3/ "...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah........Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:.."
Koran 4.74-76
[ - - Those who reject 'Faith' are ipso facto, 'rightly' deemed, by ISLAM [i.e. by Allah], as being innately evil. Therefore those who reject 'Faith' are the rightful targets of moslem enmity, violence, and warfare.
...'those who reject Faith' are described [Koran 4.74-76], as 'oppressors' and as, 'the friends of Satan'.]

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ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06

ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

n.b.
"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."

Google;

islam, unbelief is worse than killing

THE HADITH....

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."

- DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

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Spokesmen for ISLAM will tell anyone who will listen;

THAT IT IS WRONG, AND THAT IT IS TOTALLY AGAINST ISLAMIC LAW, TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE.

Here is a moslem in the UK explaining, who the innocent people are.

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Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;

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YT

KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE

"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."

"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4

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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431117115/1#1
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"every moslem in Australia is a latent, wanna-be homicidal maniac"

- Yadda

QUESTION;
What about the innocent moslems ?

IMO, [logically] there are no innocent moslems [among persons who have come to the age of consent], and yet still declare themselves to be moslems.

How so [logically] ?

QUESTION;
How credible is it that a person who is devout enough to insist that he is a moslem, is unaware of what ISLAM promotes, and is unaware of what the principle tenets of ISLAM are ?

QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'], ...to a philosophy which transforms human beings, into homicidal maniacs ?

QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'], ...to a philosophy which claims that murdering, in the cause of religious bigotry, is a religious virtue ?

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Good 'Aussie' moslems, practicing ISLAM behind closed doors.....

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Muslims brainwash children in Australia

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krk5piUzp1E

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 16448 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: Islamists back sacked principal Reply #11 - Mar 10^th, 2017 at 12:38am Neither of you? You were both here a few minutes ago... I guess I'll go play
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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 16448 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: Islamists back sacked principal Reply #12 - Mar 10^th, 2017 at 12:40am See, that's why I said not you Yadda. You fill pages with shyte no-one reads.
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ISLAM is ISLAM.

And every moslem is a follower of ISLAM. < -------- dictionary definition.

And every moslem, is a moslem.

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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1451577940/5#5
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........I know that it can be a difficult concept for many to grasp,

.....but i am still promoting the proposition that,

.....a person who insists that he is a moslem,

....is, a moslem.

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But what is ISLAM about ???

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1424590530/17#17
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The heart of ISLAM is the Koran

[and heart of the Koran, is the ideas and ideals it contains].

SO WHAT DOES THE KORAN SAY ABOUT MOSLEMS LIVING IN PEACE WITH DISBELIEVERS ? ;

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 21557 A cat with a view	Re: Islamists back sacked principal Reply #14 - Mar 10^th, 2017 at 12:53am Setanta wrote on Mar 10^th, 2017 at 12:40am: See, that's why I said not you Yadda. You fill pages with shyte no-one reads. Then why does the view count go up ?
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