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Reply #60 - Jan 22nd, 2024 at 7:26am
 
Recently freed terrorist Abdul Benbrika is costing taxpayers a bomb


In 1989 a man got under our guard, arrived and illegally stayed and later decided that on behalf of his god he would kill as many of us as possible.

He was Abdul Nacer Benbrika, an indolent, venomous and malevolent liar – we could not trust him then and would be well advised not to do so today.

Benbrika has become Australia’s most expensive immigrant. The year he arrived on our shores, ASIO’s annual budget was just more than $32m. Because of Benbrika and men like him, ASIO’s 2023-24 budget is almost $600m.

Controversially, on December 19, Benbrika was freed from jail after serving 15 years, having been convicted in 2008 for organising a terrorist cell and making plans to kill as many Australians as it could.

His gang discussed assassinating prime minister John Howard, bombing the MCG on AFL grand final day, or perhaps Flemington Racecourse on Melbourne Cup Day. Maybe even Melbourne’s Crown Casino on the day of the Formula One Grand Prix. They couldn’t quite decide.

While lying to the Immigration Review Tribunal after overstaying a one-month visa issued to him in May 1989, he said one of the reasons he wanted to stay here was because of his “love of the Australian lifestyle”.

He managed to have his visa extended at least twice before being declared a prohibited non-citizen. Three times we acted to expel him from Australia but, unaccountably, Benbrika was given a permanent residence visa in 1996 and two years later became a citizen of the country to whose lifestyle he claimed to be so attached.

But Islamic fundamentalists such as Benbrika are enemies of civilisation and modernity.

It was after this, and safely ensconced in Australia as a citizen, that Benbrika showed his true colours. Speaking to the ABC and by now calling himself Sheik Benbrika, he spoke of his support for bin Laden and of his hostility to anything other than extreme Islam.

“Osama bin Laden, he’s a great man,” said Benbrika, vigorously nodding his head. “I don’t accept all other religions except the religion of Islam.”

The last census found that 3.2 per cent of Australians claimed to be Muslims. Benbrika and his gang set out to show the other 96.8 per cent of Australians what they thought of them.

His provocative TV interview sparked interest in him from ASIO. They raided his home and started carefully monitoring his movements, mates and motives.

Ill-informed commentator Waleed Aly dismissed Benbrika’s groups as “a splinter of a splinter of a splinter”. But when it comes to our open societies, a splinter – even a one-man cell of Islamic hate – can be all you need. We’ll never know how close Benbrika and his friends went to proving that. We didn’t know it at the time but, following a tip-off, various agencies were already investigating Benbrika and others. The meter had started ticking for the Australian taxpayer. It has never stopped. And it never will.

In 2020 home affairs minister Peter Dutton revoked Benbrika’s citizenship to protect Australians from the danger posed by the convicted terrorist. The High Court restored his citizenship last October. On December 19 he was freed from jail on a one-year extended supervision order.

But such surveillance does not come cheap. In an exclusive report by Cameron Stewart in this newspaper a decade ago, he revealed that it would cost taxpayers $8m (about $10.5m in today’s dollars) to “have a single Australian jihadist monitored around the clock by security agencies”.

That’s apparently what we’ll be doing with Benbrika, and understandably so. Deradicalisation is a contested idea. Britain’s Independent Reviewer of Terrorism Legislation, Jonathan Hall KC, says there is no magic bullet when it comes to convicted extremists and that, as with sex offenders, they are devious and would say what the authorities wanted to hear.

Benbrika is aged 63 or 64 – his birthdate seems never to have been established – and can expect to live another 20 years or more, by which time he may have cost Australia more than $200m.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/inquirer/recently-freed-terrorist-abdul-benbrik...

There is a magic bullet, actually.

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Reply #61 - Jan 22nd, 2024 at 7:51am
 
They'll always be dangerous fanatics (like Nazi's) against Christianity, until they get their Christian Sacrifice (France as their Messiah) to die for their 'empire' sins.
Then they will become the most passive unarmed and helpless people on the planet.  Wink
...which is what Italy is waiting for.
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Reply #62 - Feb 17th, 2024 at 6:57pm
 
They ALL are fu**ing mental. They are all mad. Islam is a mental illness.



Imran Khan and his wife.


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Reply #63 - Feb 17th, 2024 at 7:56pm
 
No one is asking you to make a judgement, Soren.  What occurs in other countries, in other religions does not concern you.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #64 - Feb 17th, 2024 at 8:20pm
 


I think that practising Muslims here in Australia are all too open to
potentially being easily radicalised—the process by which a person
comes to support terrorism and extremist ideologies.

This I fear is all too often experienced by teenagers whose parents
are radical Muslims, and who go on to express their feelings of social
isolationism with acts of unlawfulness and violence against a society
they see as oppressive and/or alienating.

Islam is a religion of violence, despite the contradictory claims of its
adherents who claim it's a religion of peace.  Many Muslims assume
there is an established and immutable set of Islamic laws, which are
described as shariah.    This assumption is in line with Islamic
tradition, but it of course leads to serious conflict with the legal system
that exists in secular nation-states.

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Reply #65 - Feb 17th, 2024 at 8:38pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 17th, 2024 at 7:56pm:
No one is asking you to make a judgement, Soren.  What occurs in other countries, in other religions does not concern you.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Ah, I see. We have to remember that not being in a certain demographic means we are not able to observe, analyse and criticise them. Remember that next time you cry about racists, nazis or any other group you are not a part of. Or perhaps you criticise them because you are a racist nazi.

Please clarify.
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Reply #66 - Feb 17th, 2024 at 9:22pm
 

".....In 1989 a man got under our guard, arrived and illegally stayed and later decided that on behalf of his god he would kill as many of us as possible."


@ Reply #60,


Anyone with more than two brain cells, .....can witness, that in this 'enlightened' age,
politicians in all Western, liberal democracies ['under the influence of' the machinations of 'Identity politics' and DEI politics],
show very, very little inclination, to want to hold any criminal culprit, directly responsible for their nefarious 'life choices' [and their calculated unlawful intents].

Why do you believe that is the case ???

i.e.
Why do you believe that   >> politicians <<   in all Western, liberal democracies, show very little inclination, to want to hold any criminal culprit, directly responsible for their nefarious 'life choices' [and their calculated unlawful intents] ????
.....THE EXCEPTION:  ...unless some egregious and cruel criminal consequence is currently being widely 'examined' and 'broadcast' in the MSM.


There is a deeply entrenched moral sickness in our culture today.

machinations = = engage in plots and intrigues; scheme.



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more people reading the bible today


Proverbs 1:10
My son, if sinners entice thee, consent thou not.
11  If they say, Come with us, let us lay wait for blood, let us lurk privily for the innocent without cause:



In 2024, are most judges who preside over criminal cases, Humanists and Atheists ???

In any case, they seem to be doing things very wrong....

Deuteronomy 25:1
If there be a controversy between men, and they come unto judgment, that the judges may judge them; then they shall justify the righteous, and condemn the wicked.


preside = = be in a position of authority in a meeting, court.


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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Re: how many Muslims are dangerous fanatics?
Reply #67 - Feb 17th, 2024 at 9:50pm
 
Yadda wrote on Feb 17th, 2024 at 9:22pm:

WWW search......
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If you are Brian Ross, its......


WWW search......
less people reading the bible today



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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Reply #68 - Feb 17th, 2024 at 10:27pm
 
Yadda should ask a question of himself.

Yadda, are you a fanatical bedwetter?
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Reply #69 - Feb 18th, 2024 at 4:47am
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 17th, 2024 at 10:27pm:


Yadda should ask a question of himself.

Yadda, are you a fanatical bedwetter?






LTYC,

KJV
"If there be a controversy between men, and they come unto judgment, that the judges may judge them; then they shall justify the righteous, and condemn the wicked."



KJV
"Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night."



KJV
"My son, if sinners entice thee, consent thou not.
If they say, Come with us, let us lay wait for blood, let us lurk privily for the innocent without cause:
Let us swallow them up alive as the grave; and whole, as those that go down into the pit:
We shall find all precious substance, we shall fill our houses with spoil:
Cast in thy lot among us; let us all have one purse:

......Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets:
She crieth in the chief place of concourse, in the openings of the gates: in the city she uttereth her words, saying,
How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?
Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.
Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;
But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;"



LTYC,
It is pure 'clockwork'.

Pure clockwork.

To a healthy psyche, it is as sensible and as normal as...    2 + 3 = 5




Alternatively, where the devout moslem goes, in the world,
.....there follows strife, human corruption, injustice, crime, murder, mayhem and conflict.

It is the gift of ISLAM.

Pakistan
Afghanistan
Somalia
Sudan
Iran
North Africa
Sahel Africa
Indonesia
Turkey
Syria
Lebanon [once majority Christian]

et al.


.


QUESTION;
Where in the world.......is, the 'exemplar' moslem majority nation ?


Yadda said......
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1552398731/0#0




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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Re: how many Muslims are dangerous fanatics?
Reply #70 - Feb 18th, 2024 at 8:58am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 17th, 2024 at 7:56pm:
No one is asking you to make a judgement, Soren.  What occurs in other countries, in other religions does not concern you.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




LAHORE, Pakistan — Muslim gunmen shouting threats against Christians shot a 14-year-old Christian dead on Monday in Pakistan, sources said.

Sunil Masih and other Christians were standing in a market in the Mandiala Warraich area of Gujranwala District, Punjab Province, on Monday evening when six Muslim men armed with pistols arrived on motorcycles and opened fire on them, said the slain boy’s uncle, Mehboob Gill.

“We were talking to each other when suddenly Zaman Butt and his accomplices Anas Yaseen, Adil Abdul Rehman, Ashraf Inayat Ullah and two unidentified men came there on motorcycles,” Gill said. “Adil shouted that no Christian in the area should be left alive, after which Zaman opened fire on Sunil with his pistol, hitting him in the chest.

https://www.christianpost.com/news/14-year-old-christian-teen-killed-by-muslim-g...



At least 30 killed in twin blasts on the eve of Pakistan polls
No group or individual claimed responsibility for the twin blasts, which occurred a day before the general elections in the coup prone country
February 07, 2024
https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/pakistan-balochistan-blast-explosion...
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Reply #71 - Feb 18th, 2024 at 9:04am
 
AusGeoff wrote on Feb 17th, 2024 at 8:20pm:
I think that practising Muslims here in Australia are all too open to
potentially being easily radicalised—the process by which a person
comes to support terrorism and extremist ideologies.

This I fear is all too often experienced by teenagers whose parents
are radical Muslims, and who go on to express their feelings of social
isolationism with acts of unlawfulness and violence against a society
they see as oppressive and/or alienating.

Islam is a religion of violence, despite the contradictory claims of its
adherents who claim it's a religion of peace.  Many Muslims assume
there is an established and immutable set of Islamic laws, which are
described as shariah.    This assumption is in line with Islamic
tradition, but it of course leads to serious conflict with the legal system
that exists in secular nation-states.


Bbwian will roll his eyes at you, tut tut and tell you not to comment on Islam and and Muslims because you are not a Muslim. He worked with an Abdul once so he knows.

Anyway,


“Since the terror attacks of October 7, we've seen many hate preachers inciting violence and praising the killing of Jews, yet police have not stopped any from inciting hatred to their fellow Australians,” Ms Markson said.

“Instead, the police force has only gaslighted the Jewish community by holding a press conference to claim that one specific anti-Semitic chant was never said at the Opera House in an investigation that I've already shown was flawed and incomplete.

“There always seems to be an excuse, a reason why it's fine for people to spread hatred. Comments celebrating martyrdom are unAustralian and our young generation deserve better.

“If we want a cohesive, successful multicultural society in the future, governments and police need to be very careful about what children, and these are children, are being indoctrinated to believe.”
https://www.skynews.com.au/opinion/sharri-markson/sharri-markson-condemns-radica...
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Reply #72 - Feb 18th, 2024 at 9:56am
 
Frank wrote on Feb 18th, 2024 at 9:04am:

.........Bbwian will roll his eyes at you, tut tut and tell you not to comment on Islam and and Muslims because you are not a Muslim. He worked with an Abdul once so he knows.

Anyway,


“Since the terror attacks of October 7, we've seen many hate preachers inciting violence and praising the killing of Jews,


....yet police have not stopped any from inciting hatred to their fellow Australians,” Ms Markson said.





Back in May 2007   ------- >


Leopards, spots..........
   ------- >


IMAGE....
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Quote:
25 May 2007

"......Al-Faisal spent years travelling the UK preaching racial hatred urging his audience to kill Jews, Hindus and Westerners.

......But throughout the trial he denied he had intended to incite people to violence.
......he argued his talks came from the Koran and if he was on trial so was the holy text."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6692243.stm



Again, Koran 9.29

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."
Koran 9.29




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Reply #73 - Feb 18th, 2024 at 7:20pm
 
Yadda wrote on Feb 17th, 2024 at 9:22pm:
WWW search...
more people reading the bible today...

     Not so Yadda.

Fewer American adults qualify as Bible users, according to the latest
State of the Bible study.  In January 2023, around 100 million adults,
or 39% of Americans, said they use the Bible three or more times a year.
That equals the lowest number in the 13-year history of the study
and ties with last year as the lowest percentage
.
          ...

And in line with these US data, atheist numbers in Australia now surpass both the Roman Catholic and Anglican numbers...

   Atheist  =  38.9%
   Roman Catholic  =  20%
   Anglican  =  9.8%
   Other Christian  =  14.1%

(Religion in Australia as declared in 2021 Census, ABS.)

And...

   Religious Beliefs are Childish.   (link)

When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood
as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a
man, I put away childish things
.    1 Corinthians 13:11 KJV



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Reply #74 - Feb 20th, 2024 at 11:48am
 
1.  What would happen if someone said on tv that he burnt a Koran in his backyard yesterday? No video, just his saying so.

2.  What would happen if someone said on tv that he burnt a Bible in his backyard yesterday? No video, just his saying so.

3. What would happen if someone said on tv that he burnt Dawkins's God Delusion in his backyard yesterday? No video, just his saying so.

4. What would happen if someone said on tv that he burnt the rubbish in his backyard yesterday? No video, just his saying so.
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