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GAS- the lack of - time to Legislate
Mar 15^th, 2017 at 7:12am

The warnings of insufficient Gas are a joke - if it wasn't so serious. The Gas companies advise that we are facing a crisis. We are one of the biggest exporters of Gas in the World yet suppliers say we are facing a shortage crisis

The only ones who should be facing a crisis are the Gas companies

It is our Gas, the Australian peoples' that is. Malcolm Turnbull should legislate that the supplier MUST supply local requirements before exporting any Gas overseas

If they don't like it then cancel their licence to operate here

Price fixing for Australian consumers should also figure in the Legislation

Could you see Donald Trump allowing such a scenario to happen in America

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Reply #1 - Mar 15^th, 2017 at 1:59pm

Are you starting to feel angry yet?..Angry at these money grubbing Gas Companies raping our resources for them to get rich whilst we can go piss in the corner with a tin cup for a bit of our own property?

Malcolm Turnbull is a piss ant...He should take lessons from Donald Trump on how to manage what is ours. We are having our pants pulled down over our national Gas reserves

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Reply #2 - Mar 15^th, 2017 at 2:31pm

We only export CSG - fracked Coal Seam gas.

and there's no shortage of that at the moment. The gas companies just choose to chase the higher export price above any domestic market.

Our domestic gas is LPG

Liquid Petroleum Gas

it comes from the refining of oil

there is no shortage of LPG.

This is a total scam so to allow big gas & oil to expand their Coal Seam Gas exploration and drilling and operations into areas they have been denied access because of environmental issues.

They want to use it to turn around the Victorian govts decision to ban "fracking" gas operation in their state.

GAS is not GAS.

There is no shortage .... it's a con.

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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: GAS- the lack of - time to Legislate Reply #3 - Mar 15^th, 2017 at 3:41pm Interesting comment Gnads. Nothing that big business or big Government say is true. There's always a twist involved
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: GAS- the lack of - time to Legislate Reply #4 - Mar 15^th, 2017 at 4:18pm the PM has fixed it................for now at any rate.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38812 Gender:	Re: GAS- the lack of - time to Legislate Reply #5 - Mar 15^th, 2017 at 4:25pm cods wrote on Mar 15^th, 2017 at 4:18pm: the PM has fixed it................for now at any rate. How? All he has done is to tell the Gas Companies to fix it!
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Reply #6 - Mar 15^th, 2017 at 4:28pm

cods wrote on Mar 15^th, 2017 at 4:18pm:

the PM has fixed it................for now at any rate.

bullsh1t ... this is another cop out by turdball so that he doesn't have to legislate against the big corporations. Getting them to say they'll guarantee to meet demand isn't a guarantee of any worth.

Domestic demand must be legislated so as to protect the public.

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Reply #7 - Mar 15^th, 2017 at 4:31pm

With LNG plants like Barrow Island and Curtis Island its a crime that we have no domestic gas.

Another case of Government looking after big business and not the electorate.

We have an abundance but a hand full of greedy men reap all the benefits.

It's criminal, nothing else can describe it............. Angry

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Reply #8 - Mar 15^th, 2017 at 6:07pm

This is all just a well Planned and executed exercise in getting the grubberment to bend over and let the gas companies frack to their hearts content,.

And our prime minister has fallen for it and is now vowing to relax the obstacles preventing gas extraction by any means they want.

There is also no mention of recouping more taxes as a result.
It appears that Japan makes more in tax than the Australian grubberment from the gas taken from our country.

Australian politicians.......fools, idiiots and bribe takers

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Reply #9 - Mar 15^th, 2017 at 6:08pm

Ajax wrote on Mar 15^th, 2017 at 4:31pm:

With LNG plants like Barrow Island and Curtis Island its a crime that we have no domestic gas.

Another case of Government looking after big business and not the electorate.

We have an abundance but a hand full of greedy men reap all the benefits.

It's criminal, nothing else can describe it............. Angry

Gorgon Plant Barrow Island

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It's not LNG ..... that's just a convenient name to deflect any heat from the process which produces this gas.

And it's as far from NATURAL as you can get.

It's all gas extracted by unconventional multi hole horizontal Hydraulic Fracturing of coal seams.

Pumping into the earth a concoction of toxic chemicals that they won't divulge to anyone including govt.

That's also criminal yet both LNP & LABOR govts have condoned it. Roll Eyes

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Reply #10 - Mar 15^th, 2017 at 6:10pm

Valkie wrote on Mar 15^th, 2017 at 6:07pm:

This is all just a well Planned and executed exercise in getting the grubberment to bend over and let the gas companies frack to their hearts content,.

And our prime minister has fallen for it and is now vowing to relax the obstacles preventing gas extraction by any means they want.

There is also no mention of recouping more taxes as a result.
It appears that Japan makes more in tax than the Australian grubberment from the gas taken from our country.

Australian politicians.......fools, idiiots and bribe takers

Exactly what I've been saying ... it's a con/ a sham.

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Reply #11 - Mar 15^th, 2017 at 6:46pm

Pipelines across Australia would be prohibitively expensive.

The last politician with the foresight for such a plan was Rex Connor in the Whitlam government. Unfortunately Red Baron voted for the small minded politicians of the day.

Connor proposed an East-West national energy grid and a gas pipeline. A concept too big for tiny Australian minds.

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Minister[edit]
At the 1972 election Labor came to power under Gough Whitlam, and Connor was elected to the front-bench and appointed Minister for Minerals and Energy. In this portfolio he sought to develop an Australian-controlled mining and energy sector, one not controlled by the mining companies he disliked. Among his plans were a national energy grid and a gas pipe-line across Australia from the North-West Shelf gasfields to the cities of the south-east. He liked to recite a piece of poetry by Sam Walter Foss (who was, ironically, American):

Give me men to match my mountains,
Give me men to match my plains,
Men with freedom in their visions
And creation in their veins.

Connor's economic nationalism was popular with the Labor rank-and-file, and the 1973 oil crisis seemed to many to be a vindication of his views. After the 1974 election he topped the Caucus ballot for the second Whitlam ministry. But the flood of petrodollars which accompanied the energy crisis proved to be Connor's undoing.

During 1974 Connor sought to bypass the usual loan raising processes and raise money in the Middle East through an intermediary, a mysterious Pakistani banker called Tirath Khemlani. Because of strong opposition from the Treasury and the Attorney-General's Department about the legality of the loan (and about Khemlani's general bona fides), Cabinet decided in May 1975 that only the Treasurer, not Connor, was authorised to negotiate foreign loans in the name of the Australian government. Nevertheless, Connor went on negotiating through Khemlani for a huge petrodollar loan for his various development projects, confident that if he succeeded no-one would blame him, and if he failed no-one would know.

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Reply #12 - Mar 15^th, 2017 at 7:25pm

"BREAKING NEWS: The dust is still settling on the details, but Malcolm Turnbull has just announced that gas companies will be forced to reserve Australian gas, for Australian use, at a lower Australian price.

When the AWU started pushing for a gas reservation policy three years ago, our position was considered extreme. Gas was a fringe issue. But we fought hard and we fought persistently, in public and behind closed doors. We made gas reservation a national priority.

Two weeks ago, we wrote to Malcolm Turnbull calling on him to meet with energy companies, and renegotiate a better deal for Australians. At our National Conference we called again for gas reservation.

Well, today, after meeting with the gas exporters, the PM has promised Australians reservation and “reliable, secure, and affordable gas.”

Got the above in an email from the Union... here's a link:-

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/awu-calls-on-malcolm-turnb...

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74875 Gender:	Re: GAS- the lack of - time to Legislate Reply #13 - Mar 15^th, 2017 at 7:30pm Unforgiven wrote on Mar 15^th, 2017 at 6:46pm: The last politician with the foresight for such a plan was Rex Connor in the Whitlam government. Used to know his son, Jnr. Had dinner at my place a few times. Interesting character.
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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: GAS- the lack of - time to Legislate Reply #14 - Mar 15^th, 2017 at 7:38pm All essential commodities and resources should be nationalised and owned by the people through the auspices of the government. Period.
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