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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #105 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:20am

Gordon wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:12am:

Setanta wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:07am:

Gordon wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:04am:

Unfortunately KSA oil reserves have a way to go yet and they're on a mission to make all Muslims their flavor of crazy. Did you read the articles about the King of KSA recent visit to Indonesia and how much they're funding religious education there?

I'm not a fan of Nuclear power but this is the best argument for it.

That has been my line for ages.
When IraqII kicked off I said USA should be spending that money on power stations and electric cars.

Neither Iraq wars had much to do with oil or energy. Iraq 1 was for the US dollar as reserve currency, Iraq 2 was a waste and showboating by GWB, look at me! He threatened my daddy!

The enemy is KSA and it's ilk.

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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #106 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 10:01am

Setanta wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:20am:

Gordon wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:12am:

Setanta wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:07am:

Gordon wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:04am:

Unfortunately KSA oil reserves have a way to go yet and they're on a mission to make all Muslims their flavor of crazy. Did you read the articles about the King of KSA recent visit to Indonesia and how much they're funding religious education there?

I'm not a fan of Nuclear power but this is the best argument for it.

That has been my line for ages.
When IraqII kicked off I said USA should be spending that money on power stations and electric cars.

Neither Iraq wars had much to do with oil or energy. Iraq 1 was for the US dollar as reserve currency, Iraq 2 was a waste and showboating by GWB, look at me! He threatened my daddy!

The enemy is KSA and it's ilk.

My point was that even if it was about terror and 9/11, the best thing to do would have been to stop buying Saudi oil.

USA should have had an energy jihad. With the money thats been pissed into the Middle East they could have put a solar panel on ever roof in the USA and sold subsidised electric cars.

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Reply #107 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 11:23am

Gordon wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 10:01am:

Setanta wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:20am:

Gordon wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:12am:

Setanta wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:07am:

Gordon wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:04am:

Unfortunately KSA oil reserves have a way to go yet and they're on a mission to make all Muslims their flavor of crazy. Did you read the articles about the King of KSA recent visit to Indonesia and how much they're funding religious education there?

I'm not a fan of Nuclear power but this is the best argument for it.

That has been my line for ages.
When IraqII kicked off I said USA should be spending that money on power stations and electric cars.

Neither Iraq wars had much to do with oil or energy. Iraq 1 was for the US dollar as reserve currency, Iraq 2 was a waste and showboating by GWB, look at me! He threatened my daddy!

The enemy is KSA and it's ilk.

My point was that even if it was about terror and 9/11, the best thing to do would have been to stop buying Saudi oil.

USA should have had an energy jihad. With the money thats been pissed into the Middle East they could have put a solar panel on ever roof in the USA and sold subsidised electric cars.

So which is wore, Gordy? The KS who make no apologies for who they are or the US, who pretend to care about truth liberty, justice and freedom and actively not only support the KSA but tacitly sanction, enable and openly finance their human rights violations?

It seems to me that you are very selective in your condemnations.

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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #108 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 11:28am

mothra wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 11:23am:

Gordon wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 10:01am:

Setanta wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:20am:

Gordon wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:12am:

Setanta wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:07am:

Gordon wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:04am:

Unfortunately KSA oil reserves have a way to go yet and they're on a mission to make all Muslims their flavor of crazy. Did you read the articles about the King of KSA recent visit to Indonesia and how much they're funding religious education there?

I'm not a fan of Nuclear power but this is the best argument for it.

That has been my line for ages.
When IraqII kicked off I said USA should be spending that money on power stations and electric cars.

Neither Iraq wars had much to do with oil or energy. Iraq 1 was for the US dollar as reserve currency, Iraq 2 was a waste and showboating by GWB, look at me! He threatened my daddy!

The enemy is KSA and it's ilk.

My point was that even if it was about terror and 9/11, the best thing to do would have been to stop buying Saudi oil.

USA should have had an energy jihad. With the money thats been pissed into the Middle East they could have put a solar panel on ever roof in the USA and sold subsidised electric cars.

So which is wore, Gordy? The KS who make no apologies for who they are or the US, who pretend to care about truth liberty, justice and freedom and actively not only support the KSA but tacitly sanction, enable and openly finance their human rights violations?

It seems to me that you are very selective in your condemnations.

If Iraq had successfully adopted democracy, would that be better than than what KSA has to offer?

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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #109 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 11:29am

Gordon wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 11:28am:

mothra wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 11:23am:

Gordon wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 10:01am:

Setanta wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:20am:

Gordon wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:12am:

Setanta wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:07am:

Gordon wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:04am:

Unfortunately KSA oil reserves have a way to go yet and they're on a mission to make all Muslims their flavor of crazy. Did you read the articles about the King of KSA recent visit to Indonesia and how much they're funding religious education there?

I'm not a fan of Nuclear power but this is the best argument for it.

That has been my line for ages.
When IraqII kicked off I said USA should be spending that money on power stations and electric cars.

Neither Iraq wars had much to do with oil or energy. Iraq 1 was for the US dollar as reserve currency, Iraq 2 was a waste and showboating by GWB, look at me! He threatened my daddy!

The enemy is KSA and it's ilk.

My point was that even if it was about terror and 9/11, the best thing to do would have been to stop buying Saudi oil.

USA should have had an energy jihad. With the money thats been pissed into the Middle East they could have put a solar panel on ever roof in the USA and sold subsidised electric cars.

So which is wore, Gordy? The KS who make no apologies for who they are or the US, who pretend to care about truth liberty, justice and freedom and actively not only support the KSA but tacitly sanction, enable and openly finance their human rights violations?

It seems to me that you are very selective in your condemnations.

If Iraq had successfully adopted democracy, would that be better than than what KSA has to offer?

Now that doesn't answer my question, now does it?

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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #110 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 11:51am

mothra wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 11:29am:

Gordon wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 11:28am:

mothra wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 11:23am:

Gordon wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 10:01am:

Setanta wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:20am:

Gordon wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:12am:

Setanta wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:07am:

Gordon wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:04am:

Unfortunately KSA oil reserves have a way to go yet and they're on a mission to make all Muslims their flavor of crazy. Did you read the articles about the King of KSA recent visit to Indonesia and how much they're funding religious education there?

I'm not a fan of Nuclear power but this is the best argument for it.

That has been my line for ages.
When IraqII kicked off I said USA should be spending that money on power stations and electric cars.

Neither Iraq wars had much to do with oil or energy. Iraq 1 was for the US dollar as reserve currency, Iraq 2 was a waste and showboating by GWB, look at me! He threatened my daddy!

The enemy is KSA and it's ilk.

My point was that even if it was about terror and 9/11, the best thing to do would have been to stop buying Saudi oil.

USA should have had an energy jihad. With the money thats been pissed into the Middle East they could have put a solar panel on ever roof in the USA and sold subsidised electric cars.

So which is wore, Gordy? The KS who make no apologies for who they are or the US, who pretend to care about truth liberty, justice and freedom and actively not only support the KSA but tacitly sanction, enable and openly finance their human rights violations?

It seems to me that you are very selective in your condemnations.

If Iraq had successfully adopted democracy, would that be better than than what KSA has to offer?

Now that doesn't answer my question, now does it?

There are many shades of grey in USAs invasion of Iraq.
It turned out terribly but it didn't have to. Right after USA rolled through there was a brief moment of optimism, then enters Zarqawi and the Sunnis showed their true colours by falling in behind him and the rot set in.

Usually what the USA does is a jumble of right and wrong.

I can't see one single redeeming feature in anything to do with KSA.
Can you?

What do you think of the similarities of what the Saudi marriage councillor and our very own Keysar Trad who is the president of the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils said about wife beating?

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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #111 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 11:52am

Gordon wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 11:51am:

mothra wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 11:29am:

Gordon wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 11:28am:

mothra wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 11:23am:

Gordon wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 10:01am:

Setanta wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:20am:

Gordon wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:12am:

Setanta wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:07am:

Gordon wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:04am:

Unfortunately KSA oil reserves have a way to go yet and they're on a mission to make all Muslims their flavor of crazy. Did you read the articles about the King of KSA recent visit to Indonesia and how much they're funding religious education there?

I'm not a fan of Nuclear power but this is the best argument for it.

That has been my line for ages.
When IraqII kicked off I said USA should be spending that money on power stations and electric cars.

Neither Iraq wars had much to do with oil or energy. Iraq 1 was for the US dollar as reserve currency, Iraq 2 was a waste and showboating by GWB, look at me! He threatened my daddy!

The enemy is KSA and it's ilk.

My point was that even if it was about terror and 9/11, the best thing to do would have been to stop buying Saudi oil.

USA should have had an energy jihad. With the money thats been pissed into the Middle East they could have put a solar panel on ever roof in the USA and sold subsidised electric cars.

So which is wore, Gordy? The KS who make no apologies for who they are or the US, who pretend to care about truth liberty, justice and freedom and actively not only support the KSA but tacitly sanction, enable and openly finance their human rights violations?

It seems to me that you are very selective in your condemnations.

If Iraq had successfully adopted democracy, would that be better than than what KSA has to offer?

Now that doesn't answer my question, now does it?

There are many shades of grey in USAs invasion of Iraq.
It turned out terribly but it didn't have to. Right after USA rolled through there was a brief moment of optimism, then enters Zarqawi and the Sunnis showed their true colours by falling in behind him and the rot set in.

Usually what the USA does is a jumble of right and wrong.

I can't see one single redeeming feature in anything to do with KSA.
Can you?

What do you think of the similarities of what the Saudi marriage councillor and our very own Keysar Trad who is the president of the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils said about wife beating?

Still not answering my question.

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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #112 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 11:53am

mothra wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 11:52am:

Gordon wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 11:51am:

mothra wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 11:29am:

Gordon wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 11:28am:

mothra wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 11:23am:

Gordon wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 10:01am:

Setanta wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:20am:

Gordon wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:12am:

Setanta wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:07am:

Gordon wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:04am:

Unfortunately KSA oil reserves have a way to go yet and they're on a mission to make all Muslims their flavor of crazy. Did you read the articles about the King of KSA recent visit to Indonesia and how much they're funding religious education there?

I'm not a fan of Nuclear power but this is the best argument for it.

That has been my line for ages.
When IraqII kicked off I said USA should be spending that money on power stations and electric cars.

Neither Iraq wars had much to do with oil or energy. Iraq 1 was for the US dollar as reserve currency, Iraq 2 was a waste and showboating by GWB, look at me! He threatened my daddy!

The enemy is KSA and it's ilk.

My point was that even if it was about terror and 9/11, the best thing to do would have been to stop buying Saudi oil.

USA should have had an energy jihad. With the money thats been pissed into the Middle East they could have put a solar panel on ever roof in the USA and sold subsidised electric cars.

So which is wore, Gordy? The KS who make no apologies for who they are or the US, who pretend to care about truth liberty, justice and freedom and actively not only support the KSA but tacitly sanction, enable and openly finance their human rights violations?

It seems to me that you are very selective in your condemnations.

If Iraq had successfully adopted democracy, would that be better than than what KSA has to offer?

Now that doesn't answer my question, now does it?

There are many shades of grey in USAs invasion of Iraq.
It turned out terribly but it didn't have to. Right after USA rolled through there was a brief moment of optimism, then enters Zarqawi and the Sunnis showed their true colours by falling in behind him and the rot set in.

Usually what the USA does is a jumble of right and wrong.

I can't see one single redeeming feature in anything to do with KSA.
Can you?

What do you think of the similarities of what the Saudi marriage councillor and our very own Keysar Trad who is the president of the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils said about wife beating?

Still not answering my question.

This thread is about religiously sanctioned wife beating.

What do you think of the similarities of what the Saudi marriage councillor and our very own Keysar Trad who is the president of the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils said about wife beating?

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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #113 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 11:55am

How much influence is KSA having in Australia?

WikiLeaks 'Saudi Cables' reveal secret Saudi government influence in Australia

WikiLeaks has revealed secret Saudi Arabian influence in Arabic media and Islamic religious groups in Australia as well as covert monitoring of Saudi students studying at Australian universities.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/wikileaks-saudi-cables-reveal-secret-saudi-govern...

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35267 Gender:	Re: It's OK to hit women Reply #114 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 11:57am LOL!
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20496 Gordon Gender:	Re: It's OK to hit women Reply #115 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 11:57am Even Muslim kids are learning it Saudi Style. Is this a worry? alek Fahd Islamic School was opened in October 1989 with one campus in Greenacre. The purchase of the land for the school was secured through a $12 million gift from King Fahd of Saudi Arabia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malek_Fahd_Islamic_School
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20496 Gordon Gender:	Re: It's OK to hit women Reply #116 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 11:59am mothra wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 11:57am: LOL! Saudi influence in Australia is funny? Haw haw haw.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48834 At my desk.	Re: It's OK to hit women Reply #117 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 11:59am Mothra what do you think of the Koranic command to beat disobedient women?
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35267 Gender:	Re: It's OK to hit women Reply #118 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:00pm Gordon wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 11:59am: mothra wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 11:57am: LOL! Saudi influence in Australia is funny? Haw haw haw. No. Your obvious deflection is.
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35267 Gender:	Re: It's OK to hit women Reply #119 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:01pm freediver wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 11:59am: Mothra what do you think of the Koranic command to beat disobedient women? Are you suggesting that all Muslim men beat "disobedient" women?
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