Australian Politics Forum - It's OK to hit women

Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20496 Gordon Gender:	Re: It's OK to hit women Reply #120 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:03pm Keysar Trad is the is the president of the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils. He's considered mainstream. Blink and he sounds like a Saudi Wahabbist. Why?
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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #121 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:10pm

mothra wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:01pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 11:59am:

Mothra what do you think of the Koranic command to beat disobedient women?

Are you suggesting that all Muslim men beat "disobedient" women?

No Mothra. Are you having trouble understanding the question, or are you merely afraid of your own opinion?

What do you think of the Koranic command to beat disobedient women?

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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #122 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:18pm

freediver wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:10pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:01pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 11:59am:

Mothra what do you think of the Koranic command to beat disobedient women?

Are you suggesting that all Muslim men beat "disobedient" women?

No Mothra. Are you having trouble understanding the question, or are you merely afraid of your own opinion?

What do you think of the Koranic command to beat disobedient women?

You're not paying attention to what you post .. or to what i reply. Or t the very least you are showing tremendous mental rigidity.

If it is a "command", then surely you are saying that all Muslim men beat "disobedient" women. Yes?

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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20496 Gordon Gender:	Re: It's OK to hit women Reply #123 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:21pm Mothra, why is the president of the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils and a Saudi wife beater in total agreement?
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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #124 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:30pm

mothra wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:18pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:10pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:01pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 11:59am:

Mothra what do you think of the Koranic command to beat disobedient women?

Are you suggesting that all Muslim men beat "disobedient" women?

No Mothra. Are you having trouble understanding the question, or are you merely afraid of your own opinion?

What do you think of the Koranic command to beat disobedient women?

You're not paying attention to what you post .. or to what i reply. Or t the very least you are showing tremendous mental rigidity.

If it is a "command", then surely you are saying that all Muslim men beat "disobedient" women. Yes?

No Mothra. Are you having trouble understanding the question, or are you merely afraid of your own opinion?

What do you think of the Koranic command to beat disobedient women?

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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #125 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:30pm

Gordon wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

Mothra, why is the president of the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils and a Saudi wife beater in total agreement?

Keysar Trad is a "wife beater" is he? I'm sure you have evidence of that. You wouldn't just make something like that up, would you?

In any event, he has publicly apologised for those comments (which were revolting) and come out with a qualifying statement that condemns all violence against women.

""I condemn violence against women – it is never ok to hit a woman," he posted.

"Acknowledging my clumsy attempt to explain a verse from the holy Qur'an, I want to categorically condemn all forms of violence, especially violence against women.

"I condemn and deplore it and stress my continued zeal to support women against violence. I sincerely apologise if my attempt to explain the verse is understood any differently."

Perhaps for your own peace of mind, you could focus on that.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136432 Gender:	Re: It's OK to hit women Reply #126 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:31pm “Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.” (I Corinthians 14:34-35) Oh dear.
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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #127 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:31pm

freediver wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:30pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:18pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:10pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:01pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 11:59am:

Mothra what do you think of the Koranic command to beat disobedient women?

Are you suggesting that all Muslim men beat "disobedient" women?

No Mothra. Are you having trouble understanding the question, or are you merely afraid of your own opinion?

What do you think of the Koranic command to beat disobedient women?

You're not paying attention to what you post .. or to what i reply. Or t the very least you are showing tremendous mental rigidity.

If it is a "command", then surely you are saying that all Muslim men beat "disobedient" women. Yes?

No Mothra. Are you having trouble understanding the question, or are you merely afraid of your own opinion?

What do you think of the Koranic command to beat disobedient women?

If your answer is no, your question is wrong.

It is simply not a command.

Does that clear things up for you?

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136432 Gender:	Re: It's OK to hit women Reply #128 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:32pm “Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.” (Genesis 3:16)" Goodness me.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48834 At my desk.	Re: It's OK to hit women Reply #129 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:32pm What is it then Mothra? And what do you think about it, if you are not afraid to offer an opinion?
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136432 Gender:	Re: It's OK to hit women Reply #130 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:33pm “Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.” (Hosea 13:16) Oh my.
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35267 Gender:	Re: It's OK to hit women Reply #131 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:34pm freediver wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:32pm: What is it then Mothra? And what do you think about it, if you are not afraid to offer an opinion? Why it's a word in a book, FD. What did you think it was? A "command" or something?
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136432 Gender:	Re: It's OK to hit women Reply #132 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:34pm “Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything.” (Ephesians 5:22-24) Uh oh!
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35267 Gender:	Re: It's OK to hit women Reply #133 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:36pm Where do we get "spare the rod and spoil the child" from, Greg?
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136432 Gender:	Re: It's OK to hit women Reply #134 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:36pm “When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets: then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her.” (Deuteronomy 25:11-12) Ouch!
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