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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #150 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:18pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:09pm:

Valkie wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:00pm:

Valkie wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 3:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:48pm:

"Biblically speaking all those who are under various authorities can and should be disciplined by those authorities.

"The husband wife relationship is no exception to this rule.

"So how should a Christian husband go about his duty of disciplining his wife whom God has placed under his authority?"

https://biblicalgenderroles.com/2015/10/03/7-ways-to-discipline-your-wife/

Christians! Roll Eyes

Interesting series of quotes you have there.
All from the bible
Is this part of your islamophile handbook or somethong you picked up off the webb?

But again, I point out to you.
IN BIG LEETTERS SO YOU MIGHT UNDERSTAND

CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND THAT THE BIBLE IS A SERIES OF STORIES AND EXAMPLES WRITTEN MANY YEARS AGO AND KNOWN BY CHRISTIANS AS A STORY AND NOT AS A RULE BOOK.

WHEREAS, THE TOILET PAPER KORAN IS TAKEN AS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND MUST BE FOLLOWED TO THE LETTER.

Christians do not cut off their wives hands.
Give me even 1 example where this has happened?

But there is ample and plentiful evidence of muzzos beating their women.

This is the difference, Christianity grew up and became civilized.
The CULT is anchored in primitive barbarity and has never advanced, and never will.

Indeed.

Do you condone Christian violence against women?

I'm curious.

Do you honestly think that was smart?
Seriously?

Get off the drugs friend, they are frying your brain.

When you can give me just 1 example of a Christian cutting off his wifes hand because of his Christian belief.
Then, and only then you wil gain some credability

OK
Give me 1 example from anywhere in the world

Just 1

So, that's a 'yes' or a 'no'.

You weren't very clear.

Do you condone Christian violence against women?

You really are f#@ked in the head arent you?

How many times do I have to tell you that I dont believe in violence against women or children?
Christian, muslim, jewish, agnostic, buddist etc, etc, etc.
But you just dont get it do you?
You are so thick that you think this makes some sort of point.

Now working from this point.
Sometimes, in order to remove cancer, some good cells must die, in order to make the whole body healthy.
This does the body little good and it is sick for some time, but eventually it does heal.

When the CULT hides behind women and children, like cowards, banking on the fact that they can use this shield to save their lives, it is the ultimate betrayal of the human race.
Sometimes some inocents will have to die, for the greater good.

But NO i do not condone violence against women or children.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38528 Gender:	Re: It's OK to hit women Reply #151 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:20pm Quote: But NO i do not condone violence against women or children. Who here does?
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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #152 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:22pm

Valkie wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:09pm:

Valkie wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:00pm:

Valkie wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 3:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:48pm:

"Biblically speaking all those who are under various authorities can and should be disciplined by those authorities.

"The husband wife relationship is no exception to this rule.

"So how should a Christian husband go about his duty of disciplining his wife whom God has placed under his authority?"

https://biblicalgenderroles.com/2015/10/03/7-ways-to-discipline-your-wife/

Christians! Roll Eyes

Interesting series of quotes you have there.
All from the bible
Is this part of your islamophile handbook or somethong you picked up off the webb?

But again, I point out to you.
IN BIG LEETTERS SO YOU MIGHT UNDERSTAND

CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND THAT THE BIBLE IS A SERIES OF STORIES AND EXAMPLES WRITTEN MANY YEARS AGO AND KNOWN BY CHRISTIANS AS A STORY AND NOT AS A RULE BOOK.

WHEREAS, THE TOILET PAPER KORAN IS TAKEN AS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND MUST BE FOLLOWED TO THE LETTER.

Christians do not cut off their wives hands.
Give me even 1 example where this has happened?

But there is ample and plentiful evidence of muzzos beating their women.

This is the difference, Christianity grew up and became civilized.
The CULT is anchored in primitive barbarity and has never advanced, and never will.

Indeed.

Do you condone Christian violence against women?

I'm curious.

Do you honestly think that was smart?
Seriously?

Get off the drugs friend, they are frying your brain.

When you can give me just 1 example of a Christian cutting off his wifes hand because of his Christian belief.
Then, and only then you wil gain some credability

OK
Give me 1 example from anywhere in the world

Just 1

So, that's a 'yes' or a 'no'.

You weren't very clear.

Do you condone Christian violence against women?

You really are f#@ked in the head arent you?

How many times do I have to tell you that I dont believe in violence against women or children?
Christian, muslim, jewish, agnostic, buddist etc, etc, etc.
But you just dont get it do you?
You are so thick that you think this makes some sort of point.

Now working from this point.
Sometimes, in order to remove cancer, some good cells must die, in order to make the whole body healthy.
This does the body little good and it is sick for some time, but eventually it does heal.

When the CULT hides behind women and children, like cowards, banking on the fact that they can use this shield to save their lives, it is the ultimate betrayal of the human race.
Sometimes some inocents will have to die, for the greater good.

But NO i do not condone violence against women or children.

Just to be clear: you're perfectly ok with innocent women and children dying in order to address your irrational fear & hatred of all Muslim men - yes?

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136432 Gender:	Re: It's OK to hit women Reply #153 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:23pm Aussie wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:20pm: Quote: But NO i do not condone violence against women or children. Who here does? Herbert once said that he would like to see a woman repeatedly raped. Actually, I think he said it more than once.
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20496 Gordon Gender:	Re: It's OK to hit women Reply #154 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:24pm Hey Greggy, what are your thoughts on Keysar Trad who is the president of the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils and a former spokesman for the Grand Mufti, having disturbingly similar views on wife beating as this fella?
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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #155 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:27pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:23pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:20pm:

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But NO i do not condone violence against women or children.

Who here does?

Herbert once said that he would like to see a woman repeatedly raped.

Actually, I think he said it more than once.

Come to think of it, he repeated it several times.

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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #156 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:35pm

Nobody wants to talk about Keysar Trads views on wife beating.

OK, to get the conversation moving I'll totally discount what the HuT women said in the OP on the basis they're considered a fringe group, but Keysar Trad? He's a big swinging burka of Sydney Muslims.

Former spokesman of the Grand Mufit
Founder of the Islamic Friendship Association of Australia
President of the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils, that's like being the boss of all Muslims!!!!!!

This guy is a respected mainstream Muslim and holds the same views as wife beating as the vile wahabists.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136432 Gender:	Re: It's OK to hit women Reply #157 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:39pm "And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire." (Leviticus 21:9) Christians
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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #158 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:39pm:

"And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire." (Leviticus 21:9)

Christians Roll Eyes

Nah...he does not count and can be ignored like the rest of the OT, we are told.

But, there are NT verses which establish the subservience and subjugation of women to men in the Christian World. Effendi is have a terrible time trying to pretend they don't exist, in another Sub Forum.

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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #159 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:47pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:39pm:

"And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire." (Leviticus 21:9)

Christians Roll Eyes

Nah...he does not count and can be ignored like the rest of the OT, we are told.

But, there are NT verses which establish the subservience and subjugation of women to men in the Christian World. Effendi is have a terrible time trying to pretend they don't exist in another Sub Forum.

Personally, I don't let violent Christians, who treat women as second-class citizens, tell me anything.

"Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works." (Revelation 2:22-23)

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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #160 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:52pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:20pm:

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But NO i do not condone violence against women or children.

Who here does?

Abu was a big fan of wife beating, as a way of humiliating women into submission.

Even Gandalf supports Muhammad beating his favourite child bride.

So basically, every Muslim here supports wife beating in one form or another. Are there any nonMuslims?

mothra wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:31pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:30pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:18pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:10pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:01pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 11:59am:

Mothra what do you think of the Koranic command to beat disobedient women?

Are you suggesting that all Muslim men beat "disobedient" women?

No Mothra. Are you having trouble understanding the question, or are you merely afraid of your own opinion?

What do you think of the Koranic command to beat disobedient women?

You're not paying attention to what you post .. or to what i reply. Or t the very least you are showing tremendous mental rigidity.

If it is a "command", then surely you are saying that all Muslim men beat "disobedient" women. Yes?

No Mothra. Are you having trouble understanding the question, or are you merely afraid of your own opinion?

What do you think of the Koranic command to beat disobedient women?

If your answer is no, your question is wrong.

It is simply not a command.

Does that clear things up for you?

mothra wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:34pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 12:32pm:

What is it then Mothra?

And what do you think about it, if you are not afraid to offer an opinion?

Why it's a word in a book, FD. What did you think it was?

A "command" or something?

Do you allow yourself to have an opinion on it, or are you only allowed to criticise religions other than Islam?

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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #161 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:55pm

freediver wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:52pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:20pm:

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But NO i do not condone violence against women or children.

Who here does?

Abu was a big fan of wife beating, as a way of humiliating women into submission.

Even Gandalf supports Muhammad beating his favourite child bride.

So basically, every Muslim here supports wife beating in one form or another. Are there any nonMuslims?

Herbert said, on many occasions, that he wanted to see a Muslim woman repeatedly raped.

You remember that, don't you?

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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #162 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:56pm

freediver wrote on Apr 15^th, 2017 at 9:23pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 15^th, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Now Greg I am going to ask you to stretch your mental faculties a bit. Do you think the bit about do unto others contradicts that bit?

I knew that would be asking too much.

Greg are you still running away from this one? Why do you keep posting old testament verses if you run away every time people ask you to put them into context?

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136432 Gender:	Re: It's OK to hit women Reply #163 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:58pm "Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything." (Ephesians 5:22-24) Oh dear.
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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #164 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 5:04pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:58pm:

"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything." (Ephesians 5:22-24)

Oh dear.

Not a 'glory' in sight there Effendi, and nothing at all about women having control of their head. So, what you gonna do, Effendi, with that one?

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