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Reply #165 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 5:10pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 5:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:58pm:

"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything." (Ephesians 5:22-24)

Oh dear.

Not a 'glory' in sight there Effendi, and nothing at all about women having control of their head. So, what you gonna do, Effendi, with that one?

It does not instruct men to beat their wives Aussie. The Koran does.

How about you Aussie, do you allow yourself an opinion on the Koranic command to beat disobedient women?

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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #166 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 5:19pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 5:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:58pm:

"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything." (Ephesians 5:22-24)

Oh dear.

Not a 'glory' in sight there Effendi, and nothing at all about women having control of their head. So, what you gonna do, Effendi, with that one?

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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20496 Gordon Gender:	Re: It's OK to hit women Reply #167 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 5:20pm Still no takers on Trad? People are willing to discuss the texts of an ancient book yet not what a bloke who is still alive said a month ago. Oh dear.
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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #168 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 5:23pm

freediver wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 5:10pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 5:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:58pm:

"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything." (Ephesians 5:22-24)

Oh dear.

Not a 'glory' in sight there Effendi, and nothing at all about women having control of their head. So, what you gonna do, Effendi, with that one?

It does not instruct men to beat their wives Aussie. The Koran does.

How about you Aussie, do you allow yourself an opinion on the Koranic command to beat disobedient women?

You are quite right Effendi, it does not instruct men to beat women. It does instruct women to be subservient to men, and subjugate themselves to men. I guess, in the absence of clarification in the NT, we will have to look at the OT to find how a breach of that instruction might be enforced by men.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48834 At my desk.	Re: It's OK to hit women Reply #169 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 6:32pm You could always start with "do unto others" Aussie. Perhaps that is too complicated for you, and you need to be told how to do it to them. Do you allow yourself an opinion on the Koranic command to beat disobedient women?
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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #170 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 6:32pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:47pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:39pm:

"And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire." (Leviticus 21:9)

Christians Roll Eyes

Nah...he does not count and can be ignored like the rest of the OT, we are told.

But, there are NT verses which establish the subservience and subjugation of women to men in the Christian World. Effendi is have a terrible time trying to pretend they don't exist in another Sub Forum.

Personally, I don't let violent Christians, who treat women as second-class citizens, tell me anything.

"Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works." (Revelation 2:22-23)

But you willingly allow you masters in the CULT dictate to you?
Strange fellow.

In countries where the CULT rules women are not second class, the actually have no place other than as a possession.
Is this what you crave for pecca?

In countries where the Cult rules, women are raped and then stoned, beaten and killed for being raped.
Is this what you want pecca?

In countries where the CULT rules CHILDREN are raped and then beaten to death.
IS THIS TRUELY WHAT YOU WANT PECCA?

For the, oh, I dont know how many times.
I do not condone harm to either women or children in any form.

But your glorious CULT, the one you so fervently protect, does this wholesale on a daily basis.
Try to understand, its really quite simple, just like you.

The CULT is a brutal, pedophile infested, barbaric, primitive, christophobic, pathetic CULT, that has no worth what so ever.

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A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

SUCH A WONDERFUL DREAM
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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #171 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 6:38pm

Now, back to the point pecca.

Show me 1, just 1 instance or report of a Christian cutting the hands or hand off his wife.

Then look in any form of media and see how many muslim women are stoned, beaten to death, murdered or raped by the CULT followers.

See,
The difference is that Christians read the Bible as a series of stories.

Whereas the CULT sees the perverted scribblings of an insane, self confessed pedophile, sociopath, retard as the absolute truth and that has to be followed to the letter.
Even the bit about him talking to the devil???????????
Or watching the sun sink into a muddy hole in the ground?????????

The fool was insane and a liar, just like his followers

AND YOU

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A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #172 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 6:43pm

freediver wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 6:32pm:

You could always start with "do unto others" Aussie. Perhaps that is too complicated for you, and you need to be told how to do it to them.

Do you allow yourself an opinion on the Koranic command to beat disobedient women?

Never read one word of the Koran, Effendi. I was born in Country Queensland where no-one ever heard of the Koran, and I am even less interested in it now.

I do enjoy shooting you down when you ignore the contents of the Bible especially those bits which seem to reflect what is supposed to be in the Koran.

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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #173 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 6:43pm

freediver wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 6:32pm:

You could always start with "do unto others" Aussie. Perhaps that is too complicated for you, and you need to be told how to do it to them.

Do you allow yourself an opinion on the Koranic command to beat disobedient women?

hw would understand the command if it used the word DECK fd..

he positively has no trouble with that word. Roll Eyes

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: It's OK to hit women Reply #174 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 6:44pm oooooo arsie shooting fd down... hilarious!
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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #175 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 6:55pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 6:43pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 6:32pm:

You could always start with "do unto others" Aussie. Perhaps that is too complicated for you, and you need to be told how to do it to them.

Do you allow yourself an opinion on the Koranic command to beat disobedient women?

Never read one word of the Koran, Effendi. I was born in Country Queensland where no-one ever heard of the Koran, and I am even less interested in it now.

I do enjoy shooting you down when you ignore the contents of the Bible especially those bits which seem to reflect what is supposed to be in the Koran.

So the bits in the Bible that don't say to beat your wife 'reflect' the bits in the Koran that do say to beat your wife?

Why do you always have so much to say on things you know nothing about?

Here is verse 4:34 of the Koran, so you don't have to plead ignorance any more:

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Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them. Then if they obey you, take no further action against them. Surely God is high, supreme.

Now do you allow yourself an opinion, or did you shut your eyes for that part?

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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #176 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 7:14pm

Valkie wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 6:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:47pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 4:39pm:

"And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire." (Leviticus 21:9)

Christians Roll Eyes

Nah...he does not count and can be ignored like the rest of the OT, we are told.

But, there are NT verses which establish the subservience and subjugation of women to men in the Christian World. Effendi is have a terrible time trying to pretend they don't exist in another Sub Forum.

Personally, I don't let violent Christians, who treat women as second-class citizens, tell me anything.

"Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works." (Revelation 2:22-23)

But you willingly allow you masters in the CULT dictate to you?
Strange fellow.

In countries where the CULT rules women are not second class, the actually have no place other than as a possession.
Is this what you crave for pecca?

In countries where the Cult rules, women are raped and then stoned, beaten and killed for being raped.
Is this what you want pecca?

In countries where the CULT rules CHILDREN are raped and then beaten to death.
IS THIS TRUELY WHAT YOU WANT PECCA?

For the, oh, I dont know how many times.
I do not condone harm to either women or children in any form.

But your glorious CULT, the one you so fervently protect, does this wholesale on a daily basis.
Try to understand, its really quite simple, just like you.

The CULT is a brutal, pedophile infested, barbaric, primitive, christophobic, pathetic CULT, that has no worth what so ever.

It appears that you have mistaken me for someone else, my boy (or you're pissed on warm VB again).

To clarify: I don't support any religion.

You, however, support a religion that condones the killing of women and children.

Why? Why do you "think" Christianity is so good?

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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #177 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 7:19pm

freediver wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 6:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 6:43pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 6:32pm:

You could always start with "do unto others" Aussie. Perhaps that is too complicated for you, and you need to be told how to do it to them.

Do you allow yourself an opinion on the Koranic command to beat disobedient women?

Never read one word of the Koran, Effendi. I was born in Country Queensland where no-one ever heard of the Koran, and I am even less interested in it now.

I do enjoy shooting you down when you ignore the contents of the Bible especially those bits which seem to reflect what is supposed to be in the Koran.

So the bits in the Bible that don't say to beat your wife 'reflect' the bits in the Koran that do say to beat your wife?

Which bits are they, Effendi? Can you give me the Biblical text bits?

Why do you always have so much to say on things you know nothing about?

I follow your lead there, Sensei.

Here is verse 4:34 of the Koran, so you don't have to plead ignorance any more:

Quote:

Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them. Then if they obey you, take no further action against them. Surely God is high, supreme.

Now do you allow yourself an opinion, or did you shut your eyes for that part?

Did you mean 'hit' them once in bed?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48834 At my desk.	Re: It's OK to hit women Reply #178 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 8:09pm Greg what do you think of the Koran's instruction to beat disobedient women? Aussie, still running away?
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38528 Gender:	Re: It's OK to hit women Reply #179 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 8:16pm freediver wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 8:09pm: Greg what do you think of the Koran's instruction to beat disobedient women? Aussie, still running away? No, I responded to your Quote Bomb. You did not respond to my responses, Effendi.
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