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It's OK to hit women
Apr 13^th, 2017 at 4:13pm

And, Muslim men have slower reaction times and no ability to multi-task but are physically stronger and obliged to be the leader in a marriage.

Seriously, enough is enough. Protecting this bizarre regressive head up it's arse pile of turd religion has to stop.

Reem AlloucheThe 30-minute video aimed to discuss a contentious verse from the Koran that says: "Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has made one of them to excel the other, and because they spend (to support them) from their means. Therefore the righteous woman are Qanitat, and guard in the husband's absence what Allah orders them to guard. As to those women on whose part you see ill conduct, admonish them, and abandon them in their beds, and beat them, but if they return to obedience, do not seek a means against them."

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/muslim-men-permitted-to-hit-wives-in-a-soft-and-symbol...

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Reply #1 - Apr 13^th, 2017 at 5:56pm

Where does it say a man must hit a woman lightly or mention a miswak in the Quran, these ladies are sugar coating this wife beating.
quran.com/4/34

Muslims on wife beating which is allowed by Allah the most merciful of those who show mercy.
youtube.com/results?search_query=wife+beating+islam

Only the morally bankrupt can defend this religion. Roll Eyes

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Reply #2 - Apr 13^th, 2017 at 5:57pm

Gordon wrote on Apr 13^th, 2017 at 4:13pm:

And, Muslim men have slower reaction times and no ability to multi-task but are physically stronger and obliged to be the leader in a marriage.

Seriously, enough is enough. Protecting this bizarre regressive head up it's arse pile of turd religion has to stop.

Reem AlloucheThe 30-minute video aimed to discuss a contentious verse from the Koran that says: "Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has made one of them to excel the other, and because they spend (to support them) from their means. Therefore the righteous woman are Qanitat, and guard in the husband's absence what Allah orders them to guard. As to those women on whose part you see ill conduct, admonish them, and abandon them in their beds, and beat them, but if they return to obedience, do not seek a means against them."

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/muslim-men-permitted-to-hit-wives-in-a-soft-and-symbol...

Its despicable, but I do hope this starts up a conversation within the muslim community, and we get to hear the progressive muslims who completely reject this interpretation of the Quran.

I also (shock horror) hope that leftists who defend muslims won't be afraid to condemn these misogynistic remarks

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #3 - Apr 13^th, 2017 at 6:00pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 13^th, 2017 at 5:56pm:

Only the morally bankrupt can defend this religion

no, only the morally bankrupt can defend this interpretation of this religion.

It is not the only interpretation, and there are muslims who reject the 'beating' interpretation - no matter how much you mock and try to discredit them.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #4 - Apr 13^th, 2017 at 6:06pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 13^th, 2017 at 6:00pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 13^th, 2017 at 5:56pm:

Only the morally bankrupt can defend this religion

no, only the morally bankrupt can defend this interpretation of this religion.

It is not the only interpretation, and there are muslims who reject the 'beating' interpretation - no matter how much you mock and try to discredit them.

Muslims tell us the Quran is the words of Allah, the Quran is very clear your Allah allows wife beating if you fear disobedience.

Is your Allah wrong about wife beating, the Quran is very clear despite attempts to sugar coat this wife beating.
quran.com/4/34

How are you going to insert do not before the part about hitting women, will that be corrupting Allah's message? Roll Eyes

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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6490 Gender:	Re: It's OK to hit women Reply #5 - Apr 13^th, 2017 at 6:08pm [highlight] It is not the only interpretation, and there are muslims who reject the 'beating' interpretation - no matter how much you mock and try to discredit them.[/highlight] I think we need to see all Muslims (and everyone else) reject this, not just some.
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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #6 - Apr 13^th, 2017 at 6:09pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 13^th, 2017 at 5:57pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 13^th, 2017 at 4:13pm:

And, Muslim men have slower reaction times and no ability to multi-task but are physically stronger and obliged to be the leader in a marriage.

Seriously, enough is enough. Protecting this bizarre regressive head up it's arse pile of turd religion has to stop.

Reem AlloucheThe 30-minute video aimed to discuss a contentious verse from the Koran that says: "Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has made one of them to excel the other, and because they spend (to support them) from their means. Therefore the righteous woman are Qanitat, and guard in the husband's absence what Allah orders them to guard. As to those women on whose part you see ill conduct, admonish them, and abandon them in their beds, and beat them, but if they return to obedience, do not seek a means against them."

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/muslim-men-permitted-to-hit-wives-in-a-soft-and-symbol...

Its despicable, but I do hope this starts up a conversation within the muslim community, and we get to hear the progressive muslims who completely reject this interpretation of the Quran.

I also (shock horror) hope that leftists who defend muslims won't be afraid to condemn these misogynistic remarks

It looks like Saudi Arabia's investment in proselytising their puritanical rubbish is paying off.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38529 Gender:	Re: It's OK to hit women Reply #7 - Apr 13^th, 2017 at 6:12pm Why not Mr Rort? After all the Bible bashers do it, so why deny the Muslims the same flexibility. Any 'religion' which asserts that violence against a partner is to be encouraged or condoned ain't worth jack schit, not that I need to rely on that single issue to make the assertion that all religion is worth jack schit.
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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #8 - Apr 13^th, 2017 at 6:25pm

Gordon wrote on Apr 13^th, 2017 at 6:09pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 13^th, 2017 at 5:57pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 13^th, 2017 at 4:13pm:

And, Muslim men have slower reaction times and no ability to multi-task but are physically stronger and obliged to be the leader in a marriage.

Seriously, enough is enough. Protecting this bizarre regressive head up it's arse pile of turd religion has to stop.

Reem AlloucheThe 30-minute video aimed to discuss a contentious verse from the Koran that says: "Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has made one of them to excel the other, and because they spend (to support them) from their means. Therefore the righteous woman are Qanitat, and guard in the husband's absence what Allah orders them to guard. As to those women on whose part you see ill conduct, admonish them, and abandon them in their beds, and beat them, but if they return to obedience, do not seek a means against them."

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/muslim-men-permitted-to-hit-wives-in-a-soft-and-symbol...

Its despicable, but I do hope this starts up a conversation within the muslim community, and we get to hear the progressive muslims who completely reject this interpretation of the Quran.

I also (shock horror) hope that leftists who defend muslims won't be afraid to condemn these misogynistic remarks

It looks like Saudi Arabia's investment in proselytising their puritanical rubbish is paying off.

All muslims follow the Quran.

google.com.au/?gws_rd=ssl#q=wife+beating+iran

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Valkie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16137 Central Coast Gender:	Re: It's OK to hit women Reply #9 - Apr 13^th, 2017 at 6:29pm I don't see the apologists jumping to the defense of this CULT this time.....yet. If there were any doubt that this CULT is full of liars and insane people, this is just another example. Were the women lying or just totally insane?
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Reply #10 - Apr 13^th, 2017 at 6:31pm

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$$ Profit Mo said- "a man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife"

Sunnah.com/abudawud/12/102

There you go according to dim witted dopey retarded morally bankrupt leftists we should show some cultural sensitivity and not ask muslims why they beat their wives, the leftists would like to appease Islam by making muslims exempt from our domestic violence laws.

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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #11 - Apr 13^th, 2017 at 6:32pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 13^th, 2017 at 6:06pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 13^th, 2017 at 6:00pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 13^th, 2017 at 5:56pm:

Only the morally bankrupt can defend this religion

no, only the morally bankrupt can defend this interpretation of this religion.

It is not the only interpretation, and there are muslims who reject the 'beating' interpretation - no matter how much you mock and try to discredit them.

Muslims tell us the Quran is the words of Allah, the Quran is very clear your Allah allows wife beating if you fear disobedience.

Is your Allah wrong about wife beating, the Quran is very clear despite attempts to sugar coat this wife beating.
quran.com/4/34

How are you going to insert do not before the part about hitting women, will that be corrupting Allah's message? Roll Eyes

Baron its not "its hit - now we have to excuse it and explain it away" - its questioning whether the word is 'hit" to begin with.

It comes down to the interpretation of the word with the arabic root ضرب - 'D-R-B'

The argument that it doesn't mean 'hit' draws on other references in the Quran where it is used, but the literal interpration 'hit' simply doesn't make sense

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Valkie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16137 Central Coast Gender:	Re: It's OK to hit women Reply #12 - Apr 13^th, 2017 at 6:36pm Its just one of the reasons islamic women wear a burka. To hide both the foreplay scars and beating bruises. Muslim foreplay= beat a woman/child unconscious.
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Reply #13 - Apr 13^th, 2017 at 6:45pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 13^th, 2017 at 6:32pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 13^th, 2017 at 6:06pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 13^th, 2017 at 6:00pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 13^th, 2017 at 5:56pm:

Only the morally bankrupt can defend this religion

no, only the morally bankrupt can defend this interpretation of this religion.

It is not the only interpretation, and there are muslims who reject the 'beating' interpretation - no matter how much you mock and try to discredit them.

Muslims tell us the Quran is the words of Allah, the Quran is very clear your Allah allows wife beating if you fear disobedience.

Is your Allah wrong about wife beating, the Quran is very clear despite attempts to sugar coat this wife beating.
quran.com/4/34

How are you going to insert do not before the part about hitting women, will that be corrupting Allah's message? Roll Eyes

Baron its not "its hit - now we have to excuse it and explain it away" - its questioning whether the word is 'hit" to begin with.

It comes down to the interpretation of the word with the arabic root ضرب - 'D-R-B'

The argument that it doesn't mean 'hit' draws on other references in the Quran where it is used, but the literal interpration 'hit' simply doesn't make sense

Keysar Trad has better Arabic than you he says wife beating is allowed, are we to believe he is wrong as well and you are right? Roll Eyes

google.com.au/?gws_rd=ssl#q=keysar+trad+wife+beating

Keysar says it's a last resort, he is following the Quran.
quran.com/4/34

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38529 Gender:	Re: It's OK to hit women Reply #14 - Apr 13^th, 2017 at 6:46pm Quote: leftists would like to appease Islam by making muslims exempt from our domestic violence laws. Crap. Show me any posts made by anyone here (or any comment by a 'leftist' at large) which backs that up. Go on, off you toddle.
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