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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #195 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:15pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:56pm:
It was a Biblical reference.


Argh aye... so we know it in the Biblical sense..... (aaaargh)....
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Reply #196 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:15am
 
Aussie wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:07pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:51pm:
So why do Mothra, Aussie, Brian and the rest do this elaborate tapdance, but Greg has no problem calling it for what it is?


No tap dance by me Effendi.  Why would you say such an absurd thing when you are very identifiable as the only Poster here who never, ever answers a question put directly to them?


So what do you think of the Koranic command to beat disobedient women? Do you need me to quote it for you again because you have suppressed the memory?
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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #197 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:03am
 
freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:51pm:
So why do Mothra, Aussie, Brian and the rest do this elaborate tapdance, but Greg has no problem calling it for what it is?


I have twice on this thread alone unreservedly condemned any suggestion of violence towards women.

Not answering your question was not a "tap-dance", FD. It was a particularly stupid question.

As was pointed out to you.
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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #198 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:15am
 
mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:03am:
freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:51pm:
So why do Mothra, Aussie, Brian and the rest do this elaborate tapdance, but Greg has no problem calling it for what it is?


I have twice on this thread alone unreservedly condemned any suggestion of violence towards women.

Not answering your question was not a "tap-dance", FD. It was a particularly stupid question.

As was pointed out to you.


I recall seeing you squirm rather than give an opinion on the Koranic command to beat disobedient women. Of course you oppose violence towards women. Except when it comes from the Koran of course. Then the tapdancing begins.
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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #199 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:16am
 
mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:03am:
freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:51pm:
So why do Mothra, Aussie, Brian and the rest do this elaborate tapdance, but Greg has no problem calling it for what it is?


I have twice on this thread alone unreservedly condemned any suggestion of violence towards women.

Not answering your question was not a "tap-dance", FD. It was a particularly stupid question.

As was pointed out to you.



you do think changing the word MUTILATION to CUTTING is a step in the right direction though..

at the end of the day.... its still violence against women  in this case defencless young girls.

no matter what you call it. Angry
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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #200 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:16am
 
freediver wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:15am:
mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:03am:
freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:51pm:
So why do Mothra, Aussie, Brian and the rest do this elaborate tapdance, but Greg has no problem calling it for what it is?


I have twice on this thread alone unreservedly condemned any suggestion of violence towards women.

Not answering your question was not a "tap-dance", FD. It was a particularly stupid question.

As was pointed out to you.


I recall seeing you squirm rather than give an opinion on the Koranic command to beat disobedient women. Of course you oppose violence towards women. Except when it comes from the Koran of course. Then the tapdancing begins.



I didn't squirm at all. I said it wasn't a command.

I see you still son't understand that.
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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #201 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:22am
 
mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:16am:
freediver wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:15am:
mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:03am:
freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:51pm:
So why do Mothra, Aussie, Brian and the rest do this elaborate tapdance, but Greg has no problem calling it for what it is?


I have twice on this thread alone unreservedly condemned any suggestion of violence towards women.

Not answering your question was not a "tap-dance", FD. It was a particularly stupid question.

As was pointed out to you.


I recall seeing you squirm rather than give an opinion on the Koranic command to beat disobedient women. Of course you oppose violence towards women. Except when it comes from the Koran of course. Then the tapdancing begins.



I didn't squirm at all. I said it wasn't a command.

I see you still son't understand that.


You are still squirming, and you have still not offered an opinion on it, regardless of the label we give it.

The tapdancing continues. Who knows what elaborate footwork we will see from Mothra in the next post? My bet is an unreserved condemnation of violence towards women, but more excuses for why he cannot possibly criticise the Koran for commanding Muslims to beat women.
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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #202 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:30am
 
freediver wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:22am:
mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:16am:
freediver wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:15am:
mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:03am:
freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:51pm:
So why do Mothra, Aussie, Brian and the rest do this elaborate tapdance, but Greg has no problem calling it for what it is?


I have twice on this thread alone unreservedly condemned any suggestion of violence towards women.

Not answering your question was not a "tap-dance", FD. It was a particularly stupid question.

As was pointed out to you.



I recall seeing you squirm rather than give an opinion on the Koranic command to beat disobedient women. Of course you oppose violence towards women. Except when it comes from the Koran of course. Then the tapdancing begins.



I didn't squirm at all. I said it wasn't a command.

I see you still son't understand that.


You are still squirming, and you have still not offered an opinion on it, regardless of the label we give it.

The tapdancing continues. Who knows what elaborate footwork we will see from Mothra in the next post? My bet is an unreserved condemnation of violence towards women, but more excuses for why he cannot possibly criticise the Koran for commanding Muslims to beat women.


I'm not squirming in the slightest.

You are asking a stupid question. I am not going to answer a stupid question.

I have, despite what you say, openly criticised any suggestion of violence towards women twice on this thread alone. Wherever or whoever it comes from.

Just because i'm not jumping through the dodgy hoop you're holding tremourously for me doesn't mean i'm "tap-dancing".

You see FD, i hold people to account for what they say. Precisely what they say. We are dealing with the written word here. I say what i mean and i men what i say. I hold everyone on here to the same principle.

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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #203 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:10am
 
mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:30am:
freediver wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:22am:
mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:16am:
freediver wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:15am:
mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:03am:
freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:51pm:
So why do Mothra, Aussie, Brian and the rest do this elaborate tapdance, but Greg has no problem calling it for what it is?


I have twice on this thread alone unreservedly condemned any suggestion of violence towards women.

Not answering your question was not a "tap-dance", FD. It was a particularly stupid question.

As was pointed out to you.



I recall seeing you squirm rather than give an opinion on the Koranic command to beat disobedient women. Of course you oppose violence towards women. Except when it comes from the Koran of course. Then the tapdancing begins.



I didn't squirm at all. I said it wasn't a command.

I see you still son't understand that.


You are still squirming, and you have still not offered an opinion on it, regardless of the label we give it.

The tapdancing continues. Who knows what elaborate footwork we will see from Mothra in the next post? My bet is an unreserved condemnation of violence towards women, but more excuses for why he cannot possibly criticise the Koran for commanding Muslims to beat women.


I'm not squirming in the slightest.

You are asking a stupid question. I am not going to answer a stupid question.

I have, despite what you say, openly criticised any suggestion of violence towards women twice on this thread alone. Wherever or whoever it comes from.

Just because i'm not jumping through the dodgy hoop you're holding tremourously for me doesn't mean i'm "tap-dancing".

You see FD, i hold people to account for what they say. Precisely what they say. We are dealing with the written word here. I say what i mean and i men what i say. I hold everyone on here to the same principle.



So you refuse to give your opinion on the Koranic command to beat disobedient women, at the same as insisting you will openly criticise any suggestion of violence towards women, regardless of where it comes from?
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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #204 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:16am
 
freediver wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:10am:
mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:30am:
freediver wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:22am:
mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:16am:
freediver wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:15am:
mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:03am:
freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:51pm:
So why do Mothra, Aussie, Brian and the rest do this elaborate tapdance, but Greg has no problem calling it for what it is?


I have twice on this thread alone unreservedly condemned any suggestion of violence towards women.

Not answering your question was not a "tap-dance", FD. It was a particularly stupid question.

As was pointed out to you.



I recall seeing you squirm rather than give an opinion on the Koranic command to beat disobedient women. Of course you oppose violence towards women. Except when it comes from the Koran of course. Then the tapdancing begins.



I didn't squirm at all. I said it wasn't a command.

I see you still son't understand that.


You are still squirming, and you have still not offered an opinion on it, regardless of the label we give it.

The tapdancing continues. Who knows what elaborate footwork we will see from Mothra in the next post? My bet is an unreserved condemnation of violence towards women, but more excuses for why he cannot possibly criticise the Koran for commanding Muslims to beat women.


I'm not squirming in the slightest.

You are asking a stupid question. I am not going to answer a stupid question.

I have, despite what you say, openly criticised any suggestion of violence towards women twice on this thread alone. Wherever or whoever it comes from.

Just because i'm not jumping through the dodgy hoop you're holding tremourously for me doesn't mean i'm "tap-dancing".

You see FD, i hold people to account for what they say. Precisely what they say. We are dealing with the written word here. I say what i mean and i men what i say. I hold everyone on here to the same principle.



So you refuse to give your opinion on the Koranic command to beat disobedient women, at the same as insisting you will openly criticise any suggestion of violence towards women, regardless of where it comes from?



Focus FD. Do try. I'm firmly of the opinion that you're not very bright but even you should be able to follow this.

If it were a "command", then all Muslim men would beat "disobedient" women, yes?

I reiterate. It's a stupid question.

I have unreservedly given my opinion on any suggestion of beating women.

You're just having a little tanty because i don't agree with the terminology you are not so subtly trying to bully me into agreeing with.

Even by your standards, this is pathetic.
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Re: It's OK to hit women
Reply #205 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 12:37pm
 
mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:16am:
freediver wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:10am:
mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:30am:
freediver wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:22am:
mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:16am:
freediver wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:15am:
mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:03am:
freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:51pm:
So why do Mothra, Aussie, Brian and the rest do this elaborate tapdance, but Greg has no problem calling it for what it is?


I have twice on this thread alone unreservedly condemned any suggestion of violence towards women.

Not answering your question was not a "tap-dance", FD. It was a particularly stupid question.

As was pointed out to you.



I recall seeing you squirm rather than give an opinion on the Koranic command to beat disobedient women. Of course you oppose violence towards women. Except when it comes from the Koran of course. Then the tapdancing begins.



I didn't squirm at all. I said it wasn't a command.

I see you still son't understand that.


You are still squirming, and you have still not offered an opinion on it, regardless of the label we give it.

The tapdancing continues. Who knows what elaborate footwork we will see from Mothra in the next post? My bet is an unreserved condemnation of violence towards women, but more excuses for why he cannot possibly criticise the Koran for commanding Muslims to beat women.


I'm not squirming in the slightest.

You are asking a stupid question. I am not going to answer a stupid question.

I have, despite what you say, openly criticised any suggestion of violence towards women twice on this thread alone. Wherever or whoever it comes from.

Just because i'm not jumping through the dodgy hoop you're holding tremourously for me doesn't mean i'm "tap-dancing".

You see FD, i hold people to account for what they say. Precisely what they say. We are dealing with the written word here. I say what i mean and i men what i say. I hold everyone on here to the same principle.



So you refuse to give your opinion on the Koranic command to beat disobedient women, at the same as insisting you will openly criticise any suggestion of violence towards women, regardless of where it comes from?



Focus FD. Do try. I'm firmly of the opinion that you're not very bright but even you should be able to follow this.

If it were a "command", then all Muslim men would beat "disobedient" women, yes?

I reiterate. It's a stupid question.

I have unreservedly given my opinion on any suggestion of beating women.

You're just having a little tanty because i don't agree with the terminology you are not so subtly trying to bully me into agreeing with.

Even by your standards, this is pathetic.


Use any label you want. We did earlier in the thread. It made no difference. Either way, you are afraid to offer your opinion on it.
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Reply #206 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 2:07pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:15am:
Aussie wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:07pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:51pm:
So why do Mothra, Aussie, Brian and the rest do this elaborate tapdance, but Greg has no problem calling it for what it is?


No tap dance by me Effendi.  Why would you say such an absurd thing when you are very identifiable as the only Poster here who never, ever answers a question put directly to them?


So what do you think of the Koranic command to beat disobedient women? Do you need me to quote it for you again because you have suppressed the memory?


Sure, post this command you allude to.  The actual words, please.
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Reply #207 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 2:26pm
 
I just love the way apologist, sycophant, sympathiser,  trators to the human race always use tge term.
" not all muslims"

As if that counts.

The fact that any, most, or even a percentage does these evil things in the name of their CULT, condems the CULT as brutal, barbaric and sick.

Always thevwords, " not all muslims" is no defence, it is an excuse.

Here is a simple quiz for you.
If you went into any country, in the world, and asked anybody on the street what they thought of when you say terrorism.
What do you think they would answer?

And if you asked any person on the street anywhere in the world what the thought about FGM and who practiced it.
What do you think they would say.

And if you were to ask any person on the street anywhere in the world what or who the associated beheading with.
What do you think they would say?

And finally, and this is the biggie.
If you asked anybody in any city where muzzos live, anywhere in the world, what they thought of the muzzos.
What do you think they would say.

In every case they would identify with, condem, and be universally repulsed by the barbarity of the CULT.
And they would like them to be anywhere else other than near them.

This CULT does not and never will be compatible with civilized society, culture or honesty.
It is antithetical to freedom, equal rights or tolerance.

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Reply #208 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 3:58pm
 
Aussie wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 2:07pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:15am:
Aussie wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:07pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:51pm:
So why do Mothra, Aussie, Brian and the rest do this elaborate tapdance, but Greg has no problem calling it for what it is?


No tap dance by me Effendi.  Why would you say such an absurd thing when you are very identifiable as the only Poster here who never, ever answers a question put directly to them?


So what do you think of the Koranic command to beat disobedient women? Do you need me to quote it for you again because you have suppressed the memory?


Sure, post this command you allude to.  The actual words, please.


Do you mind if, instead, I quote the last time you slithered away from this one?

Aussie wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 7:19pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 6:55pm:
Aussie wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 6:43pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 6:32pm:
You could always start with "do unto others" Aussie. Perhaps that is too complicated for you, and you need to be told how to do it to them.

Do you allow yourself an opinion on the Koranic command to beat disobedient women?


Never read one word of the Koran, Effendi.  I was born in Country Queensland where no-one ever heard of the Koran, and I am even less interested in it now.

I do enjoy shooting you down when you ignore the contents of the Bible especially those bits which seem to reflect what is supposed to be in the Koran.

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So the bits in the Bible that don't say to beat your wife 'reflect' the bits in the Koran that do say to beat your wife?

Which bits are they, Effendi?  Can you give me the Biblical text bits?


Why do you always have so much to say on things you know nothing about?

I follow your lead there, Sensei.


Here is verse 4:34 of the Koran, so you don't have to plead ignorance any more:

Quote:
Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them. Then if they obey you, take no further action against them. Surely God is high, supreme.


Now do you allow yourself an opinion, or did you shut your eyes for that part?


Did you mean 'hit' them once in bed?






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Reply #209 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 4:11pm
 
Oh, good, I see I have already replied.

Thanks.
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